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Which one? Presidential or Parliamentary System in Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Londoner » Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:43 am

Which one? Presidential or Parliamentary System in Kurdistan

In a presidential system, like USA, the executive and legislative authorities are separate, compete against each other politically and both are elected separately. In a parliamentary system, like Turkey, both the executive and legislative authorities are the same. The executive authority made up of the elected members of the parliament, which needs only one election. A parliamentary system suffers from the lack of political competition.

The essence of democracy is to eradicate the concentration or the monopoly of power in order to spread it to create and increase political competition. On that basis a presidential system becomes more democratic than a parliamentary system. This is because in the presidential system you have two separate competing authorities, the legislative and executive authorities. But in a parliamentary system both the legislative and executive authorities are the same. So the power of both authorities is concentrated or monopolised in only one authority without political competition.

So which one is better? USA has a presidential system. It is a dynamic country and has become the strongest and the most prosperous country in the world. It has become like that because of the spread of power and political competition between separate competing authorities. Turkey has a parliamentary system but frozen and can not go forward. Modern Turkey is the same modern Turkey of about hundred years ago when it was established. It is frozen in time. This has happened because in Turkey all powers are concentrated and monopolised in one authority, which doesn’t have any political competition with authority. In Turkey you have opposition but it doesn’t have authority.

On that basis, If Kurdistan goes for Parliamentary system it will end up worst than Turkey. But if goes to presidential system it will become dynamic and prosper like USA.

References: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_system
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Re: Which one? Presidential or Parliamentary System in Kurdi

PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:16 pm

Parliamentary system is dangerous in a state of war, in any case. Will members debate about the best strategy to lead troops on the front ? Will the speaker of Parliament,who has never been a Peshmerga, support efficiently the military effort ?

And it is the worst time to start a constitutional crisis and change the system, before Kurds gain independance. Foreign diplomacy could be achieve by a single leader, not a bunch of chatty politicians. Crisis needs charismatic leaders.

Parliamentary system is harmless for stable and democratic countries living in peace, like EU.
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Re: Which one? Presidential or Parliamentary System in Kurdi

PostAuthor: Londoner » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:30 am

کاميان باشترە رژێمي سەرۆکايەتي يان بەرلەماني لە كوردستان؟

لە رژێمي سەرۆکايەتي، هەر وەك لە ئەمەريکا، دەستەلاتي جێبەجێ کردن، حکوومەت، و دەستەلاتي ياسا دانان، بەرلەمان، جياوازن و ململانێ لەگەل يەکتر ئەکەن و هەروەها هەر يەکەيان چاودێري ئەويتر ئەکا و وە هەر يەکەيان بە جياوازي هەلئەبژێردرێ بە دەنگ دان.
لە رژێمي بەرلەماني، هەر وەك لە تورکيا، دەستەلاتي ياسادانان و دەستەلاتي جێبەجێ کردن يەکن. دەستەلاتي جێبەجێکردن لە ئەنداماني بەرلەمان پێکدێ. ئەوە مەعناي وايە کە ئەنداماني دەستەلاتي جێبەجیکردن هەم ياسادانەرن وهەم جیبەجێکەرن و کەسيش نە چاودێريان لێ ئەکا و نە ململانێشيان لەگەل ئەکا. بەرلەمانيش تەنها يەك هەلبژاردني پێويستە.

دێمۆکراسي پەيدابوە لە پێناوي لابردني کۆکردنەوە و ئيحتيکاري دەستەلات لە ژێر کەم دەست بۆ ئەوەي دەستەلات بلاوبکرێتەوە لە ژێر گەلەك دەست بۆ پەيدا کردني ململاني سياسي و پەيدا کردني چادێريەکي زۆر لەسەر دەستەلات دارەکان. بەم گوێرەيە رژێمي سەرۆکايەتي زياتر دێمۆکراسيە لە رژێمي بەرلەماني. چونکي لە رژێمي سەرۆکايەتی دوو دەستەلاتي جياواز هەيە، دەستەلاتي دانان و دەستەلاتي جێبەجێکردن، هەردووکيان ململانێ لەگەل يەکتر ئەکەن و وەهەر يەکەيان چاودێري ئەويتر ئەکا. بەلام لە رژێمي بەرلەماني تەنها يەك دەستەلات هەيە، ئەم دەستەلاتە هەر ياسادانەرە و وە هەر جێبەجێکەرە. کەواتە لە رژێمي بەرلەماني دەستەلات ئيحتيکار کرايە و کۆکرايتەوە لەژێر کەم دەست بەبێ ململانێ و چادێري کردن.

جا کام رژێم باشترە بۆ كوردستان؟ ئەمەريکا رژێمي سەرۆکايەتي هەيە، بويتە بەهێزترين و دەولەمەند ترين ولات لە جيهان. ئەمە بۆيە واي لێهاتيە چونکي دەستەلات بلاوکرايتەوە لەژێر گەلەك دەست کە بوويتە هۆي ململانيەکي زۆر لە بەيني دەستەلات دارەکان وە هەروەها چاودێريەکي زۆر لەسەر يەکتر لەلايەن دەستەلات دارەکان. ئەم ململانە و چاودێري زۆرە بويتە هۆي قەدەغەکردني گەندەلي بەلاي کەميەوە. کە گەندەلە قەدەغەکرا هەموو شتەك بەرەو پێش ئەروا.
تورکيا رژێمي بەرلەماني هەيە بەلام خەوتيە ناتواني بەرەوپێش بروا. تورکيا هەروەك ئەو کاتەيە کە تورکچيەکان دروستيان کرد لە پاش شەري جيهاني يەکەم. لەوکاتەوە تا ئێستا تورکيا نوستيە و نەيتوانيە بەرەوپێش بروا. ئەمە بۆيە تورکيا واي لێهاتيە چونکي هەموو دەستەلات کۆکرايتەوە و ئيحتيکار کرايە لە ژێر دەستي يەك دەستەلات بەبێ ململانێ و چاودێري. لەبەر نەبووني ململانێ و چاودێري لە بەيني دەستەلات دارەکان تورکيا بوويتە گەندەلخانە بەلاي کەميەوە. گەندەليش نايەلي هيچ شتێ بەرەو پێش بروا. تورکيا ئۆپۆزيشني هەيە بەلام ئۆپۆزيشن دەستەلاتي نيە.

بەم گوێرەيە ئەگەر کوردستان ببێتە رژێمي بەرلەماني ئەبێتە گەندەلخانە. لە تورکيا گەلەك خراپ تر دوا ئەکەوي. بەلام رژێمي سەرۆکايەتي ئەيکاتە سوێسراي رۆژهەلاتي ناوەراست لە دوا رۆژ.
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Re: Which one? Presidential or Parliamentary System in Kurdi

PostAuthor: Londoner » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:02 pm

Piling wrote:Parliamentary system is dangerous in a state of war, in any case. Will members debate about the best strategy to lead troops on the front ? Will the speaker of Parliament,who has never been a Peshmerga, support efficiently the military effort ?

And it is the worst time to start a constitutional crisis and change the system, before Kurds gain independance. Foreign diplomacy could be achieve by a single leader, not a bunch of chatty politicians. Crisis needs charismatic leaders.

Parliamentary system is harmless for stable and democratic countries living in peace, like EU.


True. I just don't understand how at this critical times they created this crisis!!!!! :?
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Re: Which one? Presidential or Parliamentary System in Kurdi

PostAuthor: Anthea » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:32 pm

In the UK we have a saying:

"If it is not broken do not fix it"

Meaning that if something is currently working reasonably efictively do not change it

Kurds in the South should look at what they have achieved under the current system instead of turning into a horde of greedy idiots, with an almost childish "I could do better" mantra X(

None of the fools could have achieved more than the Barzani family has

None of the idiots trying to change the current political system in Kurdistan are anything more than greedy jealous imbeciles who should shut the F**K up and think about the future of Kurdistan instead of trying to get have their 15 minutes of fame by causing trouble and trying to destroy the autonomy that so many people have died trying to create

Now is the time for UNITY :ymhug:

Massoud Barzani quote:
“I was born in the shadow of Kurdish flag in Mahabad and I am ready to serve and die for the same flag” He has not done too bad a job as fa as I can see :D

Let us remember the Kurdish Republic of Mahabad and the famous last words of Qazi Mohammad:

"The success for any people is oneness, unity and support of their whole nation."

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Re: Which one? Presidential or Parliamentary System in Kurdi

PostAuthor: Londoner » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:14 pm

He has a very clear voice.
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Re: Which one? Presidential or Parliamentary System in Kurdi

PostAuthor: Anthea » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:33 pm

Londoner wrote:He has a very clear voice.


It is a shame that the Kurds stopped listening X(

Qazi Mohammad has been my HERO for many years :ymhug:
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Re: Which one? Presidential or Parliamentary System in Kurdi

PostAuthor: Londoner » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:02 am

Anthea wrote:
Londoner wrote:He has a very clear voice.


It is a shame that the Kurds stopped listening X(

Qazi Mohammad has been my HERO for many years :ymhug:


He has been my hero since 1960 when for the first time I read about him. From his voice, he must have been very healthy.
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