Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

[Cewlik]

the syrian kurdish forces have not entered WK, bcoz 'pkk doesnt allow it' , and they wear the Peshmerga uniform as we saw in the vidoes earlier , the only armed group in WK i have seen is the PYD, and pics dont lie.

if WK is attacked and destroyed , then i hold PYD responsible for breaching Erbil agreement and history will not be kind to you our pyd/pkk.

If the PYD dont stop with this policy for their party interests, the Kurds in west Kurdistan will pay the price for that.

Its just stupid to not let the Kurdish fighters from the KNC to enter west Kurdistran, only becaus they want to control whole west Kurdistan. So what will the PYD achieve with that.

Just build a united force with the KNC and use only the Kurdish Flag and the Kurds will benefit from that.

[Kurdistano]

PYD = PKK , they do not recognize kurdistan flag (soccerboy) and they refused it at Kurdistan youth conference as well in Hawler .

think you missed the dozens of Kurdistani flags waving in West Kurdistan. And just let you know. THIS flag (Yellow, Red, Green) is not the Party flag of PKK or PYD but their own version of Kurdistan flag (which I dont find attractive) and most Kurds consider the one with the yellow sun as real Kurdistan flag. While the PYD and PKK flags are different and you can spot them.


I simply think we shouldnt start "crises over some flags.

[brendar]

Yet again you talk about the flag like little childs discussing about toys. Is there nothing more important to discuss for you, like developments in West Kurdistan, than about FLAGS??

Even though I also think they should raise only the Kurdistan flag. Did I miss something or why havent I seen any sources confirming that they agreed on only using the Kurdistan flag?

PYD did already distance from PKK. If Turkey really could interfere they would have found a reason to do so believe me even without PYD raising their own flag. Or is Barzani raising PKK flag the reason why Turkey permanently makes operations in South Kurdistan? They Turkey simply cant move in because this would mean interfering from outside and Russia, China wouldnt be happy about that.

Yes i read that they agreed on the Kurdistan flag only. But, the PYD said they would like to raise other flags too. Anyway, we know that turkey will not be able to interfere because of the United nations, but you are not aware of the importance of one united flag. Moreover, we do not want threats from turkey and from the arab world about West kurdistan yet. The reason is we want it to be a better established even than Southern kurdistan in terms of all the kurdish terrorties.

Keep in mind that a civil war will occur between the arabs, alawitte and the kurds after the fall of the regime. So we do not want to fight turkey and arabs at the same time.

[brendar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOlILsQELVw&feature=share&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

[Kurdistano]

Yet again you talk about the flag like little childs discussing about toys. Is there nothing more important to discuss for you, like developments in West Kurdistan, than about FLAGS??

Even though I also think they should raise only the Kurdistan flag. Did I miss something or why havent I seen any sources confirming that they agreed on only using the Kurdistan flag?

PYD did already distance from PKK. If Turkey really could interfere they would have found a reason to do so believe me even without PYD raising their own flag. Or is Barzani raising PKK flag the reason why Turkey permanently makes operations in South Kurdistan? They Turkey simply cant move in because this would mean interfering from outside and Russia, China wouldnt be happy about that.

Yes i read that they agreed on the Kurdistan flag only. But, the PYD said they would like to raise other flags too. Anyway, we know that turkey will not be able to interfere because of the United nations, but you are not aware of the importance of one united flag. Moreover, we do not want threats from turkey and from the arab world about West kurdistan yet. The reason is we want it to be a better established even than Southern kurdistan in terms of all the kurdish terrorties.

Keep in mind that a civil war will occur between the arabs, alawitte and the kurds after the fall of the regime. So we do not want to fight turkey and arabs at the same time.

Arabs give a damn about PYD or PKK, actually PYD would be more in their interest than KRG simply because PKK is historically more an enemy of Iran and Turkey.

[alan131210]

i would rather see this


than this


i would rather see this


than this (this is the same building above but the flag of Kurdistan is replaced with PYD party flag)


basically i want a WK that the international community willing to deal with, under PYD and its flag it is impposible, then what was the point of Hawler agreement ? what is the point of liberating kurdish cities in WK if it can not and will not gain any international support ? but under Kurdistan flag it will get the support including PYD itself.

all i will say is i wish my WK good luck with PYD , wrapped up faces with ak47s and its flag everything.

[brendar]

Kurdistano

How times have you seen kurdish flag raised in Northern Kurdistan demonstrations?

Simply, PKK or Northern Kurds like you do not recognise the -kurdish recognised flag-.

[Kurdistano]

i would rather see this


than this

I would be happy with both. Free Syrian Army with wrapped faces and using AK47 ís not a reason for the international community to not support them So why should be this with us.

I would rather see this


basically i want a WK that the international community willing to deal with, under PYD and its flag it is impposible, then what was the point of Hawler agreement ? what is the point of liberating kurdish cities in WK if it can not and will not gain any international support ? but under Kurdistan flag it will get the support including PYD itself.

all i will say is i wish my WK good luck with PYD , wrapped up faces with ak47s and its flag everything.

This makes me also somehow angry seeing them replace the Kurdistan flag from this building yet like I already mentioned this is not the PYD party flag. This is their own version of Kurdistan flag (which I find very unspectacular and boring, and most Kurds imo would chose the Kurdistan flag with the sun). This here is the PYD flag,

[alan131210]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA2hctdPel4&feature=player_embedded#&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

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[alan131210]

I would be happy with both. Free Syrian Army with wrapped faces and using AK47 ís not a reason for the international community to not support them So why should be this with us.

only they dont dress up like that., they are wearing military uniforms mostly

This makes me also somehow angry seeing them replace the Kurdistan flag from this building yet like I already mentioned this is not the PYD party flag. This is their own version of Kurdistan flag (which I find very unspectacular and boring, and most Kurds imo would chose the Kurdistan flag with the sun). This here is the PYD flag,

thier own version of Kurdistan flag ? so they do not want to be part of a greater kurdistan !! it seems PYD/PKK plan is , SK and EK to be one state , but WK and NK another, this flag is just has one meaning and i have given the reason for it. ..

and even if it is not their party flag, according to the Hawler agreement they too were to use kurdistan flag but they didnt , so i say good luck with WK, it felt really good while you lasted.

[Kurdistano]

This makes me also somehow angry seeing them replace the Kurdistan flag from this building yet like I already mentioned this is not the PYD party flag. This is their own version of Kurdistan flag (which I find very unspectacular and boring, and most Kurds imo would chose the Kurdistan flag with the sun). This here is the PYD flag,

thier own version of Kurdistan flag ? so they do not want to be part of a greater kurdistan !! it seems PYD/PKK plan is , SK and EK to be one state , but WK and NK another, this flag is just has one meaning and i have given the reason for it. ..

and even if it is not their party flag, according to the Hawler agreement they too were to use kurdistan flag but they didnt , so i say good luck with WK, it felt really good while you lasted.

No let me explain. And this is the main reason why I have more sympathy for PDK than PYD. They still think the Kurdistan flag is somehow "the representative flag " of KRG. Since there was never a voting of which should be considered the Kurdistan flag.

They think its not the official Kurdistan flag. So in their mind (which is not true) raising Kurdistan flag would give the KRG more reputation than themselves (and here comes the point which I dont like about them) and so just out of arrogance and for reputation they raise their own "Kurdistan flag".

The flag for them is more about getting reputation than being anti KRG. KRG sees the PYD as ally. PYD does the same with KRG + having some rivalry over reputation. Its all for reputation reasons.


Anyways I hope they get over this small "flag crises " and PYD accepts that using Kurdistan flag is better for us.

[alan131210]

also i dont like it how they wear civilian cloths with AK47s and wrapped up faces, isnt that Hizbulla style !?

the Peshmergas we saw in that video wearing uniform is more appropriate and will give a good image about WK, but PYD has refused to let them enter even though they too are western kurdistanis .

[alan131210]

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they are3 scared shitless of another kurdistan coming to live

[Kurdistano]

also i dont like it how they wear civilian cloths with AK47s and wrapped up faces, isnt that Hizbulla style !?

PYD is more of a Western feminized organisation than PDK so please bro And I think the only reason them wearing civilian clothes is because they are civilians and they dont have other uniforms than the Shalvar/Shal u Sapik. Imagine them wearing these which is seen in Turkish eyes as sign of PKK. Do you think think them wearing Shalvar would be better to get international support

the Peshmergas we saw in that video wearing uniform is more appropriate and will give a good image about WK, but PYD has refused to let them enter even though they too are western kurdistanis .

As far as I know and it was you who showed the vide, there are Peshmergas in West Kurdistan. I believe its strategic from both sides because Turkey accused Barzani to have send his own Peshmerga there. And now with all honesty if both sides wanted to make this escalate do you think Barzani would let himself be stopped from some thousand PKK fighters which are strong in Guerrilla warfare in the mountains but KRGs Peshmergas are more qualified for direct clashes in the cities. Both sides will not dare because of some small disagreements to start a Bra Kuj. The Kurdish population would NEVER forgive this and in our modern time it is pretty easy to follow which side was fault and started it. Believe me no side will dare to make big mistakes over small disagreements at the end of the day they have more in common than differences. Both Groups want rights for Kurds and an independent state.

[alan131210]

i am not against PYD , just dont like what they are doing so far , which is doing things alone and ignoring KNC. the chances of PYD getting any support is slim if any !

anyway, WK needs Peshmerga and this is what PYD has to say about it

PYD: south Kurdistan Peshmerga forces are our brothers but we dont need them