Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

[Kurdistano]

i am not against PYD , just dont like what they are doing so far , which is doing things alone and ignoring KNC. the chances of PYD getting any support is slim if any !

anyway, WK needs Peshmerga and this is what PYD has to say about it

PYD: south Kurdistan Peshmerga forces are our brothers but we dont need them

The liberated cities are now being jointly ruled by the People's Council of Syrian Kurdistan, a designation of the PYD, and the Kurdish National Council (KNC). The KNC and PYD agreed to share control of Kurdish regions in a deal made in Erbil on July 11, under the supervision of Kurdistan Region President Massoud Barzani.

“The discussion was about the return of Kurdish soldiers who defected from the Syrian army and are now in the Kurdistan Region,” Muslim said.

He added, “Peshmerga forces are our brothers and relatives and we do not have any problems with them. But Syrian Kurdistan does not need assistance from the Peshmarga forces at this point and if the need arises we will ask for their help.”


In a recent interview with Al Jazeera, Kurdistan Region President Massoud Barzani said that defected soldiers were trained in the Kurdistan Region and would be sent to Syria to help with any “security vacuum” that might emerge.

I dont see the problem. PYD leader says West Kurdistan will be ruled by PYD and KNC (representatives of KRG). So in my eyes it doesnt matter if Peshmerga or PYD forces secure West Kurdistan. He adds if help is needed than Peshmerga forces will be send. And the Western Kurds trained by Peshmerga will also join this group. I believe PYD leader is talking about South Kurdish Peshmerga forces that there is no need for them now. If its so this is even better for us as we need also to secure our Kurdish region in South Kurdistan.

Of course I think the Peshmerga who were trained by Peshmerga but are western Kurds should be sent to West Kurdistan and allowed to help to secure the area, as they are also Western Kurds.

[Zaza_Colig]

I Also want the Peshmergas inside west Kurdistan because i neither like or trust the PYD/PKK, but i dont think it would be right to have them there because it will put pressure on Barzani from especially Turkey.Syrian kurds must create a strong and unified army so they can be prepared fo any invasions from some other foreign army or insurgent groups.

I've read most of this thread and the posts about this whole flag issue, it's really so important but it's typical of the PYD/PKK to not accept the Kurdistan national flag, and other especially kurdish flags rise higher than theirs. What should be done is that the Syrian kurds should create the flag that is gonna represent West Kurdistan like the flag of Republic of Mahabad, or republic of Ararat this can be done by the diaspora kurds or any kurd in West Kurdistan.

By the way this is my first post here in Roj Bash helle to all

Flag of the republic of Ararat


Flag of the republic of Mahabad



Kurds in WEst Kurdistan must create there own which will represent their part of Kurdistan

[zaxo10]

but Barzani said that they have trained WK peshmerga, but they should send them to WK when Assad soldiers are gone! he does not want war in WK....???

[Cewlik]

We have alredy to much flags, that is the problem and only because of the PKK they will not create a nother flag. We have one national flag and PKK and PYD must accept that, thats it. They must also accept that they build a united force the Yekîneyên Parastina Gel, where the KNC must also have a part of the control, not only the PYD.

[Kurdistano]

We are taking this "Flag issue" too serious. There arent already too much flags. You guys are mistaken party flags with our National Flag. All countries even Turkey have dozens of party flags and all are waved. The only issue to be solved here is should there be only one Nationalflag for both South and West Kurdistan (which I personally would appreciate), two waved in West Kurdistan, or a new created one only for West Kurdistan.

[Cewlik]

You guys are mistaken party flags with our National Flag.

No the PKK and PYD do that.

[Kurdistano]

You guys are mistaken party flags with our National Flag.

No the PKK and PYD do that.

No they dont. In AKP meeting you also see Turkish and AKP flags vowed together. Its simply that they think there is a need for their own national Flag.


The three flags vowed permanently by them are these here.

the "official" Kurdistan flag


PYDs own Kurdistan flag



PYDs party flag




Hell its not even the same Kurdistan flag PKK uses. PKK has its own Kurdistan flag in North too.





But in my eyes there is only one official Kurdistan flag and this is the one accepted and used in all four parts. The one which comes from the Mahabad republic and also resembles most the Ararat republic flag.

[diako_ber]

Turkey is saying that they want to attack 'northern Syria'

[Kurdistano]

Turkey is saying that they want to attack 'northern Syria'

Source?
This will most probably bite them into their own ass if they try. This means interfering in other countries affairs and Iran, Russia, China will not be very happy about this. Imagine a third world war because of Turkish government which things it is born to rule the world.

[Kurdistano]

Seems they want a third world war just for their interests. As if any country would start one just for them.
http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/06/25/ ... k-on-nato/

Turkey Wants Syrian Jet Attack Seen as Attack on NATO


Syria downed the Turkish jet late last week, and while the Syrians reportedly apologized for their actions, today they reacted by denying that they knew the jet was Turkish. The two crew members from the first plane have not been found. Turkey believes that the plane briefly crossed into Syrian airspace, but quickly realized the mistake and moved back. It is not known whether the jet was shot down over Syria or Turkey. It was also revealed today by deputy prime minister Bulent Arinc that Syria fired on a second Turkish plane, a search-and-rescue vehicle that was attempting to find the first downed plane.

The incident led to Turkey calling for an emergency NATO meeting to discuss possible responses. But even though Arinc and most Turkish leaders have said they do not intend to go to war with Syria, and even though it is not expected that NATO will press for military action over the incident, the push to view the attack as a collective security issue should raise concerns.

LOL "accidently" crossed into Syrian airspace. Turkey is allowed to make a mistake but Syria isnt. And if they crossed the Syrian airspace it is their fault. The last miserable tries of Turkey to push the Nato into Syria

This will never work because its still not clear where the Jet was shot down and even according to them they where fault in crossing into Syrian airspace. Iran, Russia and China will not let it happen. And USA and the rest of Nato will not go into ware with these countries because of Turkeys interests.

[diako_ber]

Turkey is saying that they want to attack 'northern Syria'

Source?
This will most probably bite them into their own ass if they try. This means interfering in other countries affairs and Iran, Russia, China will not be very happy about this. Imagine a third world war because of Turkish government which things it is born to rule the world.

These are the sources, I have it from a well-known Dutch news site.
It says in The last paragraph of the first link that Turkey is willing to attack "northern Syria". Just like what they did in 2003 in sk when they wanted to prevent the creation of a Kurdish state.

The second link is related to the first source, it is the speech of kerdogan

http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/2867886/ass ... ekken.html
http://www.zie.nl/video/algemeen/Assad- ... mzu9afcdk6

[Kurdistano]

Turkey is saying that they want to attack 'northern Syria'

Source?
This will most probably bite them into their own ass if they try. This means interfering in other countries affairs and Iran, Russia, China will not be very happy about this. Imagine a third world war because of Turkish government which things it is born to rule the world.

These are the sources, I have it from a well-known Dutch news site.
It says in The last paragraph of the first link that Turkey is willing to attack "northern Syria". Just like what they did in 2003 in sk when they wanted to prevent the creation of a Kurdish state.

The second link is related to the first source, it is the speech of kerdogan

http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/2867886/ass ... ekken.html
http://www.zie.nl/video/algemeen/Assad- ... mzu9afcdk6

This would create tensions with Iran, Russia and China and most probably take it to a war. Iran will not watch while Turkey is moving into the borders of their ally.

[Kurdistano]

I watched the speech I couldnt hear anything of Erdogan going into the direction of "entering Syria". retarded Dutch news agency is making up shit just like most of their racist people.

[Kurdistano]

Something else I found about the Jet incident

Turkish Phantom shot down in Syria
update: it may have violated the Syrian airspace to probe the air defenses readiness

Under article 4 of the Treaty, any ally can request consultation whenever, in the opinion of any of them, their territorial integrity, political independence or security is threatened.

The problem is that Turkey says the unarmed combat plane … shot down by the Syrian military was engaged without warning.

The aircraft was testing a domestic radar system and was fired at upon leaving Syrian airspace … Ahmet Davutoglu said. He also confirmed that the aircraft did enter Syrian airspace before being engaged by the Syrian Anti-Aircraft Artillery, although it had happened by mistake.

.. aircraft violating a foreign airspace should not be fired upon but warned, intercepted and eventually escorted outside the violated airspace. …[Un]explained is the reason why an (R)F-4 was flying at low level and high-speed just 1 km off the Syrian coast. There are at least three possibilities: navigation error, weather, or intentional violation to probe the enemy air defense readiness.

…considering the equipment carried by the aircraft, the fact that there are two crew members in a Phantom and, above all, that the plane was flying next to a “danger zone” there’s reason to believe that the two on board were perfectly aware of their position. … As a NATO pilot told me “when you are flying at hi-speed low-altitude you are either performing a rather awkward attempt to penetrate the enemy airspace to use the onboard sensors or to keep below the cloud cover… I think they were probing the Syrian air defense. And I think that they now have a good idea of their readiness status that is, among the others, one of the most interesting things we can learn from the incident.”

…the Syrians may have mistaken it for a defecting Syrian.. plane. Hence they shot it down before it could reach Turkey, to prevent another embarrassing episode like the one of the Mig-21 that defected to Jordan.

Obviously Turkey violated foreign airspace. till 10 KM outside of the countries borders is considered part of it on see. So Turkey has no chance to get the Nato into Syria.

[Kurdistano]

I think it is time for Barzani to move in his Peshmerga so at least some of our dear neighbors loose more of the PKK excuse. Even though PYD already distanced from PKK and West Kurdistan is not only ruled by them but trough cooperation with KNC which is linked to KRG.