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Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: FitimSalihu » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:09 am

Hi!

I am an Albanian student of Political Sciences from Prishtina, Kosova. My Bachelor Graduation topic is "Kurdish Question 1999-2012"... It was not obligative, but I am so interested in Kurdish nation and its history, so I have chosen this one about Kurds... I am not having enough english literature for my study, so if you can help me with PDF or other online versions of english language books on these topic "Kurdish Question 1999-2012".
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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:39 am

Hi Fitim , welcome to roj bash Kurdistan,
I like your signature thats really beautiful, what things do you think makes kurdish people and albaninans close ?

there are tons of good matterial on internet to study, I would recommend matterials publish by kurdish insitute of paris
http://www.institutkurde.org/en/
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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:21 am


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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:55 pm

Hey. Is there any specific reason that you picked 1999-2012?
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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: FitimSalihu » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:48 pm

@dyako: Albanians too, didn't have their unified state since medieval period. In 1912 we declare independence, but 60% of albanians and 70% of their territories left under neighbour conquerors. Today, we are divided in Albania (3.5 mln albanians), Kosova (2.5 mln albanians), Macedonia (0.8 mln albanians), Greece (2 mln albanians), Serbia (300.000 albanians) and Montenegro (150.000 albanians.) As a result of serbian genocide, between 1913 and 1999, today in Turkey lives over 5 mln albanians, who were departed there from serbian fascist regimes. Still, we are dreaming the unification of all our native lands and our nation (if you didn't know: albanians are the oldest people of Europe, as direct descendants of ancient Pelasgians and Illyrians, as proto-indoeuropean tribes) I know a little of the kurd history, and i have seen a lot of similarities with our history.

@Qonyeyi: It was required from me to take a short period of kurdish history, and I decided for last 13 years, from the arrest of Apo until nowadays and recent events in Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran.


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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:50 pm

FitimSalihu wrote:@dyako: Albanians too, didn't have their unified state since medieval period. In 1912 we declare independence, but 60% of albanians and 70% of their territories left under neighbour conquerors. Today, we are divided in Albania (3.5 mln albanians), Kosova (2.5 mln albanians), Macedonia (0.8 mln albanians), Greece (2 mln albanians), Serbia (3000.000 albanians) and Montenegro (150.000 albanians.) As a result of serbian genocide, between 1913 and 1999, today in Turkey lives over 5 mln albanians, who were departed there from serbian fascist regimes. Still, we are dreaming the unification of all our native lands and our nation (if you didn't know: albanians are the oldest people of Europe, as direct descendants of ancient Pelasgians and Illyrians, as proto-indoeuropean tribes) I know a little of the kurd history, and i have seen a lot of similarities with our history.

@Qonyeyi: It was required from me to take a short period of kurdish history, and I decided for last 13 years, from the arrest of Apo until nowadays and recent events in Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran.


Thank you very much for books, from all of you.


What a shame the rest of albanians support Turkey against kurds :? Still, great to have you here :ymhug:
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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: FitimSalihu » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:01 pm

RawandKurdistani wrote:
What a shame the rest of albanians support Turkey against kurds :? Still, great to have you here :ymhug:


For some reasons:

1. Turkey was only real suporter of Albanian cause in the last 60-70 years.
2. Albanians, together with turks governed Ottoman Empire... there were 40-50 sadrazems of albanian descent and a lot of pasha's, beyler, generals, admirals, etc. So for 500 years after Ottoman occupation, Albanians lead (together with turks) this empire.
3. Today, it is a huge propaganda and media from Ankara to Albanians, trying to present Kurds as wild tribes and terrorists.
4. Today, in Albanian lands, still live a lot of turkish minorities, espacially who are there since ottoman years... And in Turkey live almost 5 million albanians...

But I would'nt say that Albanians support Turkey against Kurds... Albanians have their priority: reunification of Greater Albania. Vis-a-vis kurds, I would say that they are ignorant and neutral, they know almost nothing about kurds, and are more conentrated in their historical cause: reunification of albanians.
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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:22 pm

Albanians have supported Turks, and still do, against their neighbours they did aswell. Kosovo is Serbia.
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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: Cewlik » Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:18 pm

jjmuneer wrote:Albanians have supported Turks, and still do, against their neighbours they did aswell. Kosovo is Serbia.


Serbs supported Saddam.
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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:00 pm

All in all we can agree that we still don't have any friends, sadly.
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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:08 pm

RawandKurdistani wrote:All in all we can agree that we still don't have any friends, sadly.


No one has friends country wise, we need to be able to benifit other countries in order to be called "friends". It doesn't matter how much people hate us, Turkey sees benifit in us as do we, so we are "friends"

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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:20 pm

purearch72 wrote:
RawandKurdistani wrote:All in all we can agree that we still don't have any friends, sadly.


No one has friends country wise, we need to be able to benifit other countries in order to be called "friends". It doesn't matter how much people hate us, Turkey sees benifit in us as do we, so we are "friends"


As long as Turkey os occupying northern Kurdistan, then i refuse to recognise them as your definition for ''friends''
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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:23 pm

RawandKurdistani wrote:
purearch72 wrote:
RawandKurdistani wrote:All in all we can agree that we still don't have any friends, sadly.


No one has friends country wise, we need to be able to benifit other countries in order to be called "friends". It doesn't matter how much people hate us, Turkey sees benifit in us as do we, so we are "friends"


As long as Turkey os occupying northern Kurdistan, then i refuse to recognise them as your definition for ''friends''


I am talking in the point of view of S. Kurdistan, even know they occupy N. Kurdistan and see that S.Kurdistan will cause them troubles they still have to support them since they get economic benfit.

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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:35 pm

I am talking in the point of view of S. Kurdistan, even know they occupy N. Kurdistan and see that S.Kurdistan will cause them troubles they still have to support them since they get economic benfit.


Yea, but you don't think we southern kurds have a different point of view than the rest of the kurdish nation, do you? They are occupying half of our country, so our view on those mongols will be negative ;) Turkey will be used until west Kurdistan gains full access to the Mediterranean.
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Re: Kurd Question 1999-2012

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:39 pm

RawandKurdistani wrote:
I am talking in the point of view of S. Kurdistan, even know they occupy N. Kurdistan and see that S.Kurdistan will cause them troubles they still have to support them since they get economic benfit.


Yea, but you don't think we southern kurds have a different point of view than the rest of the kurdish nation, do you? They are occupying half of our country, so our view on those mongols will be negative ;) Turkey will be used until west Kurdistan gain full access to the Mediterranean.


:lol: Okay that was a bad example. Turkey and Israel they hate eachother, but Turkey buys wepons and has econmic benifit from them.

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