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is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:47 am

here is one thing .

I see one of Roj bash users, keeps using the word mongol for Turks,
it is true that Turks come from the same region with mongols, and they are ethnically associated, but I know many good mongolian friends, one of them is actually a big friend of Kurds and a contributor of Roj Bash .

do you think it is offensive to call Turks mongols ? (offensive to both , may be monogls dont want to be compared with Turks and vice versa)
should we ask our fellow RBK user not to use that term ?
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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:25 am

I didn't really think about it I though it was part of their history.

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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:34 am

finally someone is pointing this out. It sounds very childish into my ears if I hear such terms like "mongolian" used for Turks.

Dont you guys think for a second this might be insulting for real Mongols?

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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: Anthea » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:19 am

Kurdistano wrote:finally someone is pointing this out. It sounds very childish into my ears if I hear such terms like "mongolian" used for Turks.

Dont you guys think for a second this might be insulting for real Mongols?


As far as I know Turks are not Mongols :D

And, in my opinion, they deserve more respect than the weak minded, savage Turks who believe all the evil lies that the Turkish government has told them about Kurds X(

I write savage Turks because I have seen the photos of the SHOCKING DISRESPECTFUL way they treat Kurdish people they have killed. I expect many of you here have seen photos of laughing Turkish soldiers holding up the heads of those they have murdered. Do not forget the photo of the Turk urinating on the dead Kurd X(

I would NEVER insult a Mongol by referring to him as a Turk :sad:
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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:30 am

they are mongols but !
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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:35 am

I found it offensive to be called a mountain Turk so....not really sympathizing for them.

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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:57 am

one of our previous moderators and friend of Kurds is mongol , I have other mongol friends, they have nothing to do with Turkish government, I think you guys who call Turks Mnogols,should stop doing that for another reason too :

lots of americans and europeans who read our forums, dont know you guys are reffering to Turkish government, so when you say Kurds in hunger strike in mongolian death cmaps, they wouldnt know you mean in Turkey .

so I think it is childish and I think we should warn the community not to use that term anymore.
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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: kardox » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:03 am

We should not be offensive toward mongols. I also heard that Mongolia was one of the only countries which wanted to support an independent Kurdistan in the past. Maybe we should just call them TURKS, Turk in it self is an insult many places in the world.
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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:19 pm

kardox wrote:We should not be offensive toward mongols. I also heard that Mongolia was one of the only countries which wanted to support an independent Kurdistan in the past. Maybe we should just call them TURKS, Turk in it self is an insult many places in the world.


I only call them mongol turk because it will piss them off :-D And to show that they don't belong in the Middle east.

Now with that being said, i also think we should start to referring to them as turks only, but it gets hard when they kill kurdish civillians everyday X(
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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:54 pm

kardox wrote:We should not be offensive toward mongols. I also heard that Mongolia was one of the only countries which wanted to support an independent Kurdistan in the past. Maybe we should just call them TURKS, Turk in it self is an insult many places in the world.

Agree ! They should be called what they are , they are Turks . and the crimes their government and their nationalist have done should be for them, not for mongols !
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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:14 pm

As Kak Kurdistano said it is childish to call them "Mongols", firstly because they put simply aren't. It would be more insulting to call them Mongrels, as Turkic are orginally Turanids, half mongoloid and half caucasoid.
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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:38 pm

Frankly, a ver small minority of Turks can be traced back to Mongolia. So it is inappropiate, provocative and wrong to call Turks ''Mongolian''. I believe only around 5% of the Turkish population have Asian traits left appearances. Turks are mostly a mixture of Greeks, Kurds, Armenians, Arabs and a various of Balkanic and Caucassian people.
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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:59 pm

Qonyeyi wrote:Frankly, a ver small minority of Turks can be traced back to Mongolia. So it is inappropiate, provocative and wrong to call Turks ''Mongolian''. I believe only around 5% of the Turkish population have Asian traits left appearances. Turks are mostly a mixture of Greeks, Kurds, Armenians, Arabs and a various of Balkanic and Caucassian people.

Turks aren't Mongols, they are Turanids.
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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: Cewlik » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:06 pm

jjmuneer wrote:Turks aren't Mongols, they are Turanids.


No like Qonyeyi said, Turks are mostly a mixture of Greeks, Kurds, Armenians, Arabs and a various of Balkanic and Caucassian people.
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Re: is it offensive to call Turks Mongol ?

PostAuthor: Bestoun » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:35 pm

I think it's because many people saw the Mongols as savages. The Mongols conquered much of Asia and Eastern Europe. And the conquest was not friendly. But I agree, they should be called Turks, because that's what they are.
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