Roj Bash Kurdistan

Posted: **Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:54 pm**

Well I guess, according to Turkey's logic, they may now say that the European Parliament are terrorists too... since Turkish officials have been labeling all Kurds, who protest Turkey's response to the protests in Northern Kurdistan, "terrorists" :lol:

Looking forward to Erdogan's response to the EU Parliament.

Letter To The PM Of Turkey From Members Of The European Parliament

To the Prime Minister of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan

cc:
Mr Schussel, President of the EU Council Mr. Rehn, EU Enlargement Commissioner Mr. Borrell, President of the European Parliament

Strasbourg, 5th April 2006

Prime Minister, Mr Erdogan,

As members of the European Parliament - and among us there are many who voted for the opening of EU-Turkey accession negotiations - we are particularly shocked at what is happening in Diyarbakir and at the way in which the Turkish authorities are dealing with the current crisis.

It is unacceptable that the Kurds of Turkey, a community of at least 18 million people, cannot exercise any significant fundamental right related to their cultural, social and political identity, and that the government in Ankara refuses to recognise that people's identity;

We state solemnly that there is no military solution to the "Kurdish question" and that the search for a political, non-violent and negotiated solution to the problems of the region is necessary; bear in mind that for us, the recognition of the Kurdish population's right to exercise their fundamental rights is a condition for the accession of Turkey to the European Union.

At the time of the decision on the date for the formal opening of EU-Turkey accession negotiations, the Commission and the Council stressed that any negotiations would be suspended in the event of a serious violation of democratic principles and of human rights by Ankara; the Union will have to take appropriate steps in this direction if the Turkish authorities and army continue in their unilateral contraventions of the rights of the Kurdish population.

We condemn the government of Ankara and the local representatives of the Turkish army and of the state authority for the activities which led to the death of many innocent civilians in Diyarbakir; we call on all the parties in conflict to suspend their military activities immediately and without conditions, so calm can be restored and a political process of dialogue can begin.

Finally, we ask the Presidency of the European Union and the Commission to take the appropriate political steps so that a formal, political and constructive dialogue, between the government of Ankara and the Kurds can finally take place.

Best regards,

AGNOLETTO Vittorio, MEP
ADAMOU Adamos, MEP
AUKEN Margrete, MEP
BATZELI Katerina, MEP
BEGLITIS Panagiotis, MEP
BERTINOTTI Fausto, MEP
BOURZAI Bernadette, MEP
BRIE André, MEP
CAMRE Mogens N.J., MEP
CARLOTTI Marie-Arlette, MEP
CASACA Paulo, MEP
CATANIA Giusto, MEP
CHIESA Giulietto, MEP
CORREIA Fausto, MEP
DE BRUN Bairbre, MEP
DEMETRIOU Panayotis, MEP
DIMITRAKOPOULOS Georgios, MEP
EVANS Jillian, MEP
FORD Glyn, MEP
GOMES Ana Maria, MEP
GOUDIN Helene, MEP
GRUBER Lilli, MEP
GUIDONI Umberto, MEP
GURMAI Zita, MEP
HAMMERSTEIN David, MEP
HASSI Satu, MEP
JOAN I MARI Bernat, MEP
KARATZAFERIS Georgios, MEP
KASOULIDES Ioannis, MEP
KAUFMANN Sylvia-Yvonne, MEP
KUSSTATSCHER Sepp, MEP
LAMBERT Jean, MEP
LUDFORD Sarah, MEP
MARKOV Helmuth, MEP
MATSAKIS Marios, MEP
MEYER Willy, MEP
MORGANTINI Luisa, MEP
MORAES Clause, MEP
MUSACCHIO Roberto, MEP
ORTUONDO LARREA Josu, MEP
PANAYIOTIS Demetriou, MEP
PAPADIMOULIS Dimitrios, MEP
PFLUEGER Tobias, MEP
PORTAS Miguel, MEP
PRODI Vittorio, MEP
ROURE Martine, MEP
SACCONI Guido, MEP
SMITH Alyn, MEP
SPERONI Francesco, MEP
STAES Bart, MEP
SVENSSON Eva-Britt, MEP
TRIANTAPHYLLIDES Kyriacos, MEP
UCA Feleknas, MEP
VAKALIS Nikolaos, MEP
WAGENKNECHT Sahra, MEP
WURTZ Francis, MEP
ZIMMER Gaby, MEP

Posted: **Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:07 pm**

thank god finally somebody spoke out , while candoleeza rice and bush are keeping calling this evil, Model of democrasy and take photo infront of AtaGoo's picture .

Posted: **Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:51 pm**

They already wrote something back. It's on Turkish newspapers.

This is also interesting:

Greens in EP Condemn Violence in Turkey
http://www.bianet.org/2006/04/01_eng/news77294.htm

Posted: **Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:32 pm**

Vladimir wrote:They already wrote something back. It's on Turkish newspapers.

This is also interesting:

Greens in EP Condemn Violence in Turkey
http://www.bianet.org/2006/04/01_eng/news77294.htm

They talk about the ceasefire but Turkey never gave any real incentives for a ceasefire. When the Turkish Government is not willing to negotiate with the PKK under any circumstances as reiterated continuously by their top government officials, and at the same time, the Turkish Government makes no serious efforts to end discrimination against Kurds and address poverty in Kurdistan, they have not taken advantage of ceasefire. I expected the European Parliament to release statements of contradiction and double-standards. The above letter they had originally posted was too much for them to handle.

Posted: **Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:53 am**

I expected the European Parliament to release statements of contradiction and double-standards.

It is not a statement from the EU Parlialment, but an independant initiative from MP, who send a copy to the president of the Parliament. Then, it represdents just a movement within MP (probably Left-winged or Greens) but not an official position.

Posted: **Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:20 am**

and half of the MP are greeks :lol:

Posted: **Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:31 am**

tomjez wrote:and half of the MP are greeks

HALF ? how do u say Half ?
because they are Greek then , they are wrong ?
so are you unhappy of this statement ?

Kak heval Dem Xosh , I agree with you , Turkey didnt take advantage of ceasefire and hasnt shown that they will take advantage of ceasfire .

Posted: **Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:03 am**

HALF ? how do u say Half ?
because they are Greek then , they are wrong ?
so are you unhappy of this statement ?

I'm kidding oooooh

just there are 10 greek names on the list

do you think they love kurds or just hate turkey as a general principle

it's just I don't pay attention to a greek or armenian criticizing Turkey... and some european M.P are really stupid! I met some in Bruxelles brainwashed by PKK saying that Öcalan was not only the legitimate representant of Northern Kurds ("elected" they said

) but also the most proeminent leader of all Kurds of all parts of Kurdistan!!!

but on the principle they are right! Turkey should not respond to violence by violence!

Posted: **Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:11 pm**

tomjez wrote:
HALF ? how do u say Half ?
because they are Greek then , they are wrong ?
so are you unhappy of this statement ?

I'm kidding oooooh just there are 10 greek names on the list do you think they love kurds or just hate turkey as a general principle

it's just I don't pay attention to a greek or armenian criticizing Turkey... and some european M.P are really stupid! I met some in Bruxelles brainwashed by PKK saying that Öcalan was not only the legitimate representant of Northern Kurds ("elected" they said ) but also the most proeminent leader of all Kurds of all parts of Kurdistan!!!

but on the principle they are right! Turkey should not respond to violence by violence!

you are making me angry , you are against anybody that ciritcts Turkish government , it is a dirty behaviour by you.

some european M.P are really stupid!

!!!

Posted: **Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:19 pm**

Tom I dont agree with you, neutrality of greeks and armenians were undiscussible. Their only aim was create a democracy at Turkey.

Posted: **Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:31 pm**

In any case, this kind of independant initiative has not real impact, I think. It doesn't engage EU, at any level. What is important is the statements of President, Or Committee of EU for Turkey, or even a resolution or message voted by the Parliament.

Posted: **Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:17 pm**

Tom I dont agree with you, neutrality of greeks and armenians were undiscussible. Their only aim was create a democracy at Turkey.

lol

Diyaoko you don't get it. you should always check who writes what, that's all

in a democratic turkish website 2 weeks ago there was a text against turksih negationism for armenian genocide, ending by calling the french governement to expell all turks from France! the guy was greek from France....

So defending democracy is good, it just depends of the motivtions!

Posted: **Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:53 pm**

so you say because greek/armenian are bad , so we kurds shouldnt get their support ?
should I as a Kurd , give a shit , who is defending me ? while everybody is against me ?

whatever ....
I m sure armenians are more human than Turks , the first kurdish radio was made by armenian government . shame on you who are against armenians for the sake of turks.

Posted: **Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:12 pm**

should I as a Kurd , give a shit , who is defending me ?

hey screw you for the shame on u, I live in Europe you don't, I know a lil more about politics in EU, stop being such a pussy each time I say something.

If a French fascist defend kurds because he hate turks, you'll be happy?

Posted: **Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:01 pm**

If a French fascist defend kurds because he hate turks, you'll be happy?

Most probably reason was, he hate turks more than kurds.

Roj Bash Kurdistan

European Parliament condemns Ankara for probs in Kurdistan

European Parliament condemns Ankara for probs in Kurdistan