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PostAuthor: lak-kurd » Fri May 14, 2010 4:37 pm

Emanoelkurdistani wrote:Lekî : other Kurdish dialects : English
ayim : adem, bnyam (Erdellanî) : human
agir : agir, gûr : fire
asare : hesare (Erdellanî), astare (Zazaki) : star
îme : îma, îme (Kelhûr) : we
êwin : ewan (Soranî) : they
î : î (Hewramî) : he/she
îware : îware (Kelhûr) : eve, evening
îmro : îmro (Kelhûr, Erdellanî) : today
îse : îse (Erdellanî, Kelhûr), êsye (Kelhûr) : now
ispî : spî/ispî (Kurmancî, Soranî, Zazakî) : white




and also in Leki Charmi means white

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PostAuthor: Emanoelkurdistani » Fri May 14, 2010 5:01 pm

lak-kurd wrote:
and also in Leki Charmi means white



Thanks for your information kake.

Lekí "cermí" seems close to Erdellaní (Senendejí) "cermig"
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Re: Re:

PostAuthor: lak-kurd » Fri May 14, 2010 5:41 pm

Emanoelkurdistani wrote:
lak-kurd wrote:
and also in Leki Charmi means white



Thanks for your information kake.

Lekí "cermí" seems close to Erdellaní (Senendejí) "cermig"



Yes I know...also in Leki Rish-cermi means pire-mird

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PostAuthor: Emanoelkurdistani » Fri May 14, 2010 6:24 pm

lak-kurd wrote:
Emanoelkurdistani wrote:
lak-kurd wrote:
and also in Leki Charmi means white



Thanks for your information kake.

Lekí "cermí" seems close to Erdellaní (Senendejí) "cermig"



Yes I know...also in Leki Rish-cermi means pire-mird



I see. Senendejí "-ig" mostly matches with Southern Kurdish (Kirmanshaní, Ílamí, Lekí) "-í" :

cermig : cermí : white

herrig : herrí, xerrí : mud, mire

mirdig : mirdí : dead
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Re: LEK (leki)

PostAuthor: lak-kurd » Fri May 14, 2010 6:36 pm

Interesting kurdish poem of "lek Emir":
http://www.youtube.com/user/Lakamir

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Re: LEK (leki)

PostAuthor: shahzendi » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:27 am

The dialect of the "Sheikh Bizeyni" tribe in west Anatolia

I would like to show here some samples from their dialect.

Personal pronoun:
min îma
tu îwa
ewî awana

chün how
kan/kancik which
arra/ ra cha why
cha what
key/ chi wext when
kî who
ku where

min dîyam/ dam I come
min nîyam/ nam I do not come

some verbs:
hatin / dîyam / bo to come
chin/ dichim / hero to go
kaftin /dikefim / vikaf to fall
xastin / dixazim/ vixaz to want
vînin / divînim/ vivîn to see
witin / divîshim/ vîsh to say
tashandin / ditashim/ vitash to learn
oshmardin/ doshmarim/ voshmar to count
vîrzandin/ divîrzim/ vivîrz to turn

Du brangim hastin. I have two brothers.
Karim ish nîya. or
Karim nîyastin. I have no work
Du döt u kuraykim hast. I have two daughters and a son.

min kirdim I did
tu kirde you did .....
ewî kird
îma kirdîn
îwa kirdin
awana kirdin

waran/ warish - rain
barf/ warf - snow
virîska - bolt
astara - star
xar/xor - sun
mang - moon

some other words

mal/ xana/ xanig/kapîr -house
adîna - friday
sîkard - oblation
ayîm - man
jin- woman
kur- boy
döt-girl
wawî-bride
gawra/yawra - big
pîr/wasal -old
köna- old
zandik- big, grievous,holly
bichik -smal
kut-short
dirîj -long
kü-mountain

sowzî /sawazî - morning
berbang - dawn
nîmaru - midday
dîyer - afternoon
îwarig - evening
shaw - night

werje - befor
düye/ da - after
aftîn/dîsan - again

min hastim - I am
tu haste - you are
ewî hast - he/she/it is
îma hastîn - we are
îwa hastin - you are
ewana hastin - they are

or the short form :

-im
-e
-a
-în
-in
-in

The tribes ( huz) in the Sheikh bizeyni Confederation:

Xewend
Kerkukî
Palanî
Tapan
Dashtî
Ler
Coexar
Hewedanî

In the Ottaman Archive they are called as " Akrad î Lek" but their language is not Lekî.
There are several theories where from and how this trunk comes.Probably they came in several periods from Iraq or were resettled.And I think personally because of her language that they from originally from kermanshah or îlam.

The name " bizeynî"

The proper noun of this tribe is "kirmanj" and they call her language "kirmanjekî".
In order where them with the Kurmanji t speakers live together they are called
Sexbizini .
About the meaning of the name there are some theories:

1. "bizen " from zeden in persian زدن to beat- sheykh bizenî

2. I found in the book from على سا يه ( Ferhengî Kurdî -Erebî zarî Kelhurî) on Page 88 the word
bizen بزه ن with the meaning شجاع - brave.I believe this word "bizen بزه ن " can close with the ´ name of the tribe Sheykh bizeni.

3. The older people of the tribe said me that earlier themselves called Shazenî

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Re: LEK (leki)

PostAuthor: kurdimemin_diako » Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:17 pm

Baran Ruciyar wrote:slav ji wera
chend pirse bin li we hene :wink:
Kurden Lekî, li Bashure welat hene? wana chi ne? chi qise dikin? zimana wan nezike hawramiye an ye Kelhori (Gorani) ye?

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Slam Aba gian
lekÎ zuanike le beÎn kelhorÎ u LorÎa . welê fretr be kelhorÎew nzÎke .
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Re: Re:

PostAuthor: kurdimemin_diako » Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:20 pm

Emanoelkurdistani wrote:
lak-kurd wrote:
and also in Leki Charmi means white



Thanks for your information kake.

Lekí "cermí" seems close to Erdellaní (Senendejí) "cermig"


no . it is not like Erdelanî . and it is better to call "Senendej" "Sine" as we call it .
Iranian people (persian) use "sanandaj" but we say "Sine"
Sineî xoênawî
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Re: LEK (leki)

PostAuthor: kurdimemin_diako » Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:51 pm

Emanoelkurdistani wrote:
I see. Senendejí "-ig" mostly matches with Southern Kurdish (Kirmanshaní, Ílamí, Lekí) "-í" :

cermig : cermí : white

herrig : herrí, xerrí : mud, mire

mirdig : mirdí : dead

yes . but "g" and "boge" is not use as before now . only old people who are from sine use it . if u want to say:"halo xoeshe ?" in Sine it will be "Halo xoesh boge ?" or "fre xoesh bogî?"
but now people just say"xoeshî?" like other sorani kurds
"Boge" is going to dye out ! :lol:
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Re: LEK (leki)

PostAuthor: akinakinyilmaz » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:09 pm

hi everyone i am from Turkey and we called ourselves as "Sheikh Bizini" as Emanuelkurdistan said.It is said that the Leki language and the Kurdish we speak (actually I dont know it very well,but my parents does :) ) are similar.But when i listen musics from youtube in Leki language i understand only one sentence (in fact i understand nearly all of the songs in Sheikh Bizini :)) i am very curious about whether these languages are descended from same origin.for example i want to give u two examples of songs: one is from Sheikh Bizini song and another is from Leki language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UXTQVxK45Q ==> name of song is Haymana where we are from :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2SXlUnzo_4 ==> in Leki i like it very much :D i understand only "ime gişt lekin,mın ji lek ikım" which means "we are all lekis and i am too leki"

please help me to compare these songs about language concept :)
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Re: LEK (leki)

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:30 pm

akinakinyilmaz wrote:hi everyone i am from Turkey and we called ourselves as "Sheikh Bizini" as Emanuelkurdistan said.It is said that the Leki language and the Kurdish we speak (actually I dont know it very well,but my parents does :) ) are similar.But when i listen musics from youtube in Leki language i understand only one sentence (in fact i understand nearly all of the songs in Sheikh Bizini :)) i am very curious about whether these languages are descended from same origin.for example i want to give u two examples of songs: one is from Sheikh Bizini song and another is from Leki language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UXTQVxK45Q&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1    ==> name of song is Haymana where we are from :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2SXlUnzo_4&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1    ==> in Leki i like it very much :D i understand only "ime gişt lekin,mın ji lek ikım" which means "we are all lekis and i am too leki"

please help me to compare these songs about language concept :)


Slav keke, I'm also central anatolian, i speak kurmanji. i could not understand the eastern/standart kurmanci before but with listening it more and more from TV, music and reading, i understand now almost 100% and i can also write it. this may be the case with you shexbizinî neighbours :D, maybe you could understand sorani and other southern dialects more if you listen and read. you can convert sorani arabic script to latin: http://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/kurdi ... ersion.htm

But i dont know, i dont know much about sheikhbizinî and i dont understand it :D
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