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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: Anthea » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:30 pm

Kurdistano wrote:you stated this? wasnt it actually freekurd and purearch72 :-?


First post was by freekurd2013 then people attacked him saying that it was just propaganda

I knew that there was a certain amount of conflict between the different Kurdish groups in Syria so I pointed it out :ymdevil:

I did not think that people should attack others when they have only just joined and want to contribute something X(
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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: Bahoz » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:53 pm

freekurd! you don't say the truth! I am from West kurdistan and I know whats going on now! it is big lie when you say PYD is with ASSAD regime! PYD wants the kurds to be neutral and not fight for Arabs! KNC and other parties wants to be more involved in opposition and even KNC agrees that Kurds must not enter the war between FSA and regime! we don't want destroy our area. and we don't want the regime to bomb our villages and cities. West Kurdistan. Don't spread lies around! there are no fights between parties in west but disputes and disagreements over things,

I have to say also some parties and some personals and some kurds work for Turkish regime and Bath regime also because they are paid. we all know that and we all knows who they are! ...
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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:21 pm

Thanks for clariying Haval Bahoz! Good to have a Western Kurd among us!
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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:33 pm

It's Time for west Kurds to unify doesn't matter if they are PYD or KNC if we are divided I'm sure Arabs can repress us again, but together even with the help of TUrks or Persians we can withstand them.

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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: FeyliKurd » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:10 pm

We southern Kurds must give west Kurds and PYD a chance and stop criticizing them all the time!

PYD is loved by the majority of western Kurds and it's the biggest and most organized party in WK. It is a fact and we have to accept it. Therefore, PYD has my full support.
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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: Anthea » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:38 pm

The important thing is that ALL Kurdish parties UNIT and work together for an

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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: Lepzerin » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:44 pm

Bahoz wrote:freekurd! you don't say the truth! I am from West kurdistan and I know whats going on now! it is big lie when you say PYD is with ASSAD regime! PYD wants the kurds to be neutral and not fight for Arabs! KNC and other parties wants to be more involved in opposition and even KNC agrees that Kurds must not enter the war between FSA and regime! we don't want destroy our area. and we don't want the regime to bomb our villages and cities. West Kurdistan. Don't spread lies around! there are no fights between parties in west but disputes and disagreements over things,

I have to say also some parties and some personals and some kurds work for Turkish regime and Bath regime also because they are paid. we all know that and we all knows who they are! ...


This is true, the problem is though for some reason we've gotten into a mindset that alliances and ceasefires are concrete and take reports of Syrian backing of PKK at face value. Battle lines constantly shift- we know this from experience in Iraq with the KDP, PUK, and what their position was with Iraq for the years after 1975.

The real point here is that the PYD and other Kurdish groups are going to operate out of self-interest, and will take opportunities as they come up in the civil war. They are not beholden to either FSA or Assad nor should they be. The colorful language of "Secularists" and "Islamists" overlooks that both are Arab nationalists in the end and don't have the interest of Kurds in mind.
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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: Kuwaiti » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:14 pm

Guys, there's actually a very simple way to catch a member if any of you suspect that he's not a real Kurd.

Try speaking to him in the Kurdish language and see if he replies.

As for the Kurdish situation in Western Kurdistan, I said before that the Kurds should play it right and make sure that: a) both sides of the Syrian conflict keep second-guessing the Kurdish position, and b) both sides are made to want the Kurdish people on their side. That way it would be a win-win situation.

In my opinion it is already a win-win situation. If Assad stays, it appears the Kurds will get their autonomy because they've made agreements with him. If Assad goes, the Kurds will still get their autonomy because it also appears they've made deals with the opposition. This is what I personally think because I am continuously learning that the Kurdish people in Syria are mostly neutral.

Be optimistic my friends.

The Turks are trying to spread discourse and confusion between Kurds because they are beginning to shiver. If you notice, the Turks aren't as vocal as they used to be many months ago, primarily because they are realizing that their involvement in the "middle east spring" also means they will see changes in their own territories. It's chickening them out.

Stay hopeful and by God the Kurds will get their own country, whether the idiots in Turkey like it or not.

But it is vital, extremely vital, that the Kurds get their own independence in Iraq. They should make it quick. Kurdish independence in Iraq is a crucial first step. If Southern Kurdistan gets independence, Western Kurdistan will be next, and the two parts will join together. When this happens, the Turkey-heads and Iranians will sweat, especially the Turks.

Has to happen before Obama's second term finishes. Kurdish independence must happen before 2016, in Southern Kurdistan AND Western Kurdistan. They must join to become one unified country and then work on getting their independence in northern Kurdistan.
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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:42 pm

Kuwaiti wrote:
Try speaking to him in the Kurdish language and see if he replies.



This might work sometimes but not always since today even many Turks know how to speak Kurdish. I am talking from experience.

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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: freekurd2013 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:59 pm

Dear Friends. ((Hevalen min dile min cane min ez kurdim bere ku won habin li ve jiyane))
As I told you before i.m not good in English and I spent a lot of time to write this
You are talking about western Kurdistan as if you were living there
I Tell you
I am a Kurdish man
I live in western Kurdistan and never know or went any other place
I live in the wounded Kobani
In the prisons of Bashar al-Assad
not like you in the bless of European life
you have to remember that WK is not located in turkey))))
I apologize to you for the delivery the truth to you
I did not know that my people hate to hear the truth
I registered in this web site only to open your eyes on what is really happening in Western Kurdistan .not to fight any one .we have enough war here
Each pound you pay to p y d either is being stolen or being transformed into a bullet fired at our hearts
Please if Kurdistan meant to killing Kurds and wasting their dignity , we do not want it
To day pkk gunmen have fired on protesters and wounded many young men and tow women in kobani
We respect all of your opinions but Please remember that your opinion is killing us making us poor, Ignorant ,Prisoner……………..etc

Here is some links to show you what has hapend in kobani to day and what people think about pyd
http://www.shababkobani.com/?p=15610#.U ... A.facebook
http://www.shababkobani.com/?p=15610#.UJ0cPY2GHdA.facebook">http://www.shababkobani.com/?p=15610#.U ... A.facebook

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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: burnsss » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:35 pm

my jash and agent radar is never wrong, you say you live in western kurdistan but your ip show terrorist turkey. Burn in hell your filth agent
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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: freekurd2013 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:49 am

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Re: kurds are fighting each other in syria

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:25 am

Why are you wasting your time, I can garentee you that most the money that PKK gets comes from Turkey go protest with them I'm sure kurds will listen to you there 0_0

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