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Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: Cewlik » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:36 pm

Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

Turkey's Grand National Assembly has give a green light to the government for military intervention in Syria, following recent cross-border skirmishes between the two countries.

The mandate given by the Turkish Parliament to the cabinet allows it to intervene in Syria at its own discretion, and extends over a period of one year.

The motion was passed with 330 votes out of 520 MPs in the Meclis.

The National Assembly had an emergency sitting Thursday at the request of cabinet, following a Syrian shell killed 5 Turkish citizens on Turkish border territory late Wednesday.

Turkey has already retaliated with a counter-strike.

NATO has issued a decision strongly deploring the act and supporting Turkey in the case, as has the Bulgarian government in particular.

The EU, on the other hand, has strongly called on both parties to refrain from violence.

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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: Cewlik » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:43 pm

Its like in south Kurdistan, now they can start cross border operations and of course this barbarian state which is against everythink what is Kurdish, will use it to attack west Kurdistan. The PYD should now understand that Kurds need a united Kurdish force with rojava Peshmergas and YPG to protect west Kurdistan. If the PYD continues to fight only for the own party interests, the history will not forgive them.
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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: burnsss » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:12 pm

Of course its to target kurds these mongolian bastards have been looking for excuses. The Assad should arm kurds with heavy weapons before he falls, we will take care of ourselves then.
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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:44 pm

Its time to send the peshmerga in. If PYD refuses that, The Kurdish people will not forgive that.

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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:50 pm

Kurdistano wrote:Its time to send the peshmerga in. If PYD refuses that, The Kurdish people will not forgive that.


If they refuse I'm going to recognize PKK as terrorists.

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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:31 pm

LOL. As if Peshmerga will be able to do anything against an eventual Turkish attack. YPG or HPG won't be able to do anything either on the WK flatlands. But Turkey will not attack. They are only playing with their muscles right now because elections are coming up, and the targets they have bombed so far have been pro-Assad towns. It knows that if it attacks WK cities, PKK is going to use all their force in NK and Turkey. They are only using 10% of their guerillas right now in Colemerg, Sirnex, Cewlik, Dersim, Agiri and they are causing very heavy casualties against the TSK. PKK got Turkey by the balls when it comes to WK. However, if PYD refuses Peshmerga forces to enter while being attacked, now THAT would be a HUGE mistake.
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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:13 am

Qonyeyi wrote:LOL. As if Peshmerga will be able to do anything against an eventual Turkish attack. YPG or HPG won't be able to do anything either on the WK flatlands.


Qonyeyi you are not getting the point. Its not about who can stop Turkish attack but the possible (I hope they will not) refusal of letting Peshmerga, another Kurdish group which would only strengthen the Kurdish authority in West Kurdistan, in. Just think about it, the only excuse Turkey to interfere in West Kurdistan is their allegation of PKK using West Kurdistan. If the Peshmerga move into West Kurdistan as safeguarding. Imagine Turkey attacking West Kurdistan as excuse that they are hunting the PKK , which is recognized by West as terror organization. So who the f.. will care or in which way would this hurt Turkey reputation? Now imagine Peshmerga, which are connected to KRG, the economic partner of Turkey and MANY countries, being present in West Kurdistan. Under which excuse is Turkey going to get the Peshmerga out of West Kurdistan (which are local people so an own organized "militia")? Imagine now Turkey attacking these Peshmerga, a group technically belonging to the opposition against Assad. Do you know how much this will hurt Turkey reputation and invoke opposition and Syria, Russia and Iran will use this incident to show the hypocrisy of Turkey, that they arent interested in Free democracy but just want to change the Regime with their own puppets and a reason for Russia to interfere too.

So my friend it doesnt really require much knowledge to know that the presence of Peshmerga in West Kurdistan is positive for Kurds and the only reason speaking against would be the ego of some Parties which they need to get over it for the best for all Kurds.

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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:05 am

Dear friend, hypocrisy of Turkey is already visible. When Turkey hits South Kurdistan villages while ''hunting'' PKK ( we all know they do it as psychological terror as we all know PKK is in northern Qandil and NK, they are not even close to the Kurdish villages in southern Qandil/SK). Everytime they do cross border operations, hundreds of people are affected and tens of innocent Kurdish villagers die. KRG remains silent despite the crystal clear violation of a national border. At the same time they are outrageous when Syria fires mortars and break '' Turkish security and national integrity''. Turkey is a hypocrite country, everyone knows it. We could also mention the 2000 Turkish troops in KRG. Again, KRG silence. And last week Barzani was talking about how great AKP had been for Turkey, Kurds and the Middle East. This is alarming. But do you really believe NATO and US is ever going to say that openly? No.

I am not against the presence of peshmerga forces in WK. But the unification of Kurdish parties in WK will be seen as a threat by Turkey, Iran, Iraq and most probably also USA. Most importantly, both Syria and FSA will be alarmed by a bigger presence of Kurdish military forces in Syria which is, obviously, not required right now as there is stability in WK. And I understand very well that KRG-Turkish relations are very good and this is positive. But only for KRG, because no matter what force is present in WK and NK and SK, Turkey and US will haunt PKK. Crystal clear example is, as mentioned above, Turkish attacks on KRG soiles when ''hunting'' PKK guerillas. Peshmerga forces in WK will not hold Turkish attacks back. Peshmerga forces should be incorporated into YPG which is the military of WK in agremment between KNC and PYD as we have already seen. Or else, if KSC decides that Peshmerga should come as a seperate force.
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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:04 am

purearch72 wrote:
Kurdistano wrote:Its time to send the peshmerga in. If PYD refuses that, The Kurdish people will not forgive that.


If they refuse I'm going to recognize PKK as terrorists.


Lets not do that, PKK is not PYD
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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: Cewlik » Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:46 am

Qonyeyi wrote:I am not against the presence of peshmerga forces in WK. But the unification of Kurdish parties in WK will be seen as a threat by Turkey, Iran, Iraq and most probably also USA.


#-o #-o #-o #-o

First of all, the biggest danger for west Kurdistan is the relationship between the PYD and the PKK. And just to protect PYDs actions you argue with that the Peshmerga is a danger for Kurds in west Kurdistan.

And of course a united Kurdish force will be seen as a threat for Turkey and the FSA (but not for Iran and USA) like you said). Because Turkeys and FSAs next plan is to attack west Kurdistan and it will be more difficult for them if the Peshmeerga is there, but now it is very simply, because there is only a PYD which dont have support from any country.

Belive me, the history will not forgive PYD if they continue with this policy.
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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:11 am

Cewlik wrote:
Qonyeyi wrote:I am not against the presence of peshmerga forces in WK. But the unification of Kurdish parties in WK will be seen as a threat by Turkey, Iran, Iraq and most probably also USA.


#-o #-o #-o #-o

First of all, the biggest danger for west Kurdistan is the relationship between the PYD and the PKK. And just to protect PYDs actions you argue with that the Peshmerga is a danger for Kurds in west Kurdistan.

And of course a united Kurdish force will be seen as a threat for Turkey and the FSA (but not for Iran and USA) like you said). Because Turkeys and FSAs next plan is to attack west Kurdistan and it will be more difficult for them if the Peshmeerga is there, but now it is very simply, because there is only a PYD which dont have support from any country.

Belive me, the history will not forgive PYD if they continue with this policy.


Tell me what is YPG. Please. And tell me what is KSC. What is more alarming is Kurds like you who do nothing but to criticize the biggest party and the most popular leader in Kurdistan by any chance you get. You want to destroy what KCK has built up because you know it is the work of Apo.
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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: burnsss » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:22 am

Qonyeyi Stop blaming KRG for the Mongolian cross border terror attacks, In 2007 when the Mongolian army wanted to invade kurds were ready to fight but Noory-Malikey Al-Tickrity agreed with the turks and the american backstabers gave the Mongolian the green light so please dont distort picture as KRG love Mongolian. Now that that Tickrity have bad relation with Mongolian he make some noise after he didnt say shit in years of Persian dog and mongolian attacks. Its good Iraq will get F-16 to chase off these bastards but the problem is tickrity might one day use them against kurds for political reasons. This is the backside of not having own recognized state.
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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:36 am

burnsss wrote:Qonyeyi Stop blaming KRG for the Mongolian cross border terror attacks, In 2007 when the Mongolian army wanted to invade kurds were ready to fight but Noory-Malikey Al-Tickrity agreed with the turks and the american backstabers gave the Mongolian the green light so please dont distort picture as KRG love Mongolian. Now that that Tickrity have bad relation with Mongolian he make some noise after he didnt say shit in years of Persian dog and mongolian attacks. Its good Iraq will get F-16 to chase off these bastards but the problem is tickrity might one day use them against kurds for political reasons. This is the backside of not having own recognized state.


I am not blaming KRG for Turkish terror attacks. I know very well the politics behind. It can never be blamed on others than Turkey and USA. Though, when Barzani is silent when it happens and at the same time making a good leader out of Erdogan ( biggest terrorist) then there is something wrong.
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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: burnsss » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:45 am

Barzani is pragmatic, in order to be financially independent from Bagdad he has to deal with mongolian. What would you do if the central government treathens to cut budget and doesnt want our oilfields devoloped/ also sending army to try crush our autonomy? The Mongolian suck up is for the 1 million B/D pipeline that would give SK 37 Billions dollars a years if independent thats huge amount. Its all politics Barzani do this to get SK rich and worth of interest and will one day become independent wheter mongolian like or not. They will have invested to much and we will have border with NK who will also get autonomy later.
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Re: Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:57 am

Qonyeyi wrote:I am not blaming KRG for Turkish terror attacks. I know very well the politics behind. It can never be blamed on others than Turkey and USA. Though, when Barzani is silent when it happens and at the same time making a good leader out of Erdogan ( biggest terrorist) then there is something wrong.


i like barzani, he is a good leader, but in this point i agree with you absolutely. barzani sells northkurdish interrests for southkurdish interrests. he is doing the same as PYD in syria -> politic to increase the own influence, regardless the other kurds.

i know that it is only politic, but saying erdogan is a good leader and great human doing the right politic is unforgivable. that is a big mistake and not better as what pyd is making in westkurdistan. for this reason i can understand why pyd dont want share influence with KRG. KRG is dependent from turkey.

but pyd have to fight for all kurds and their interrests, not for their ideology. all westkurds must unite and for that pyd have to stop implement öcalans ideology without get permission from all westkurds. its not the time to implement ideologys, first liberate westkurdistan together and then let the kurds decide in election. if pyd try to force the kurds their ideology, they will have many enemys.
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