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The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

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The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:10 pm

So the AKP, CHP and BDP "independents" all made gains, but the BDP "independents failed to reach the (pointless and illogical) 10% cutoff for parliamentary representation. The MHP got less votes than last time, but still has enough to be in parliament. Obviously these elections don't actually change anything, and if the people were active enough outside of elections we could ignore them entirely. That being said, here is who I blame for the results. J'accuse!

1. The AKP, for its control of the Turkish media. It is able to cover up its lies, betrayals and nepotism, as well as magnify those of its opponents.

2. The BDP, for its two-facedness. It has no clear political programme (are they for autonomy or independence?) or strategy (if they were boycotting the elections, why run the so-called "independents"? If they were not boycotting the elections, same question).

But most of all I blame:

3. The CHP. For being behind the original constitution which introduced the concept of a percentage cutoff for parliamentary representation, and for its connections to the one-party period. For its general support for militarism which continues to this day, and for its authoritarian roots which make much of the Turkish masses accepting of the authoritarian methods of the AKP (as though arrests of journalists and censorship and state control of the media and schools is anything new, not to mention all the Kurdish children locked up in the Southeast, the AKP didn't start that). For its fake secularism (Kılıçdaroğlu's being an Alevi does NOT erase the years of state support for Sunni Islam at the expense of the Alevis, and it is CENTRE TO RIGHT WING Alevis who support the CHP, NOT "the Alevis") and its fake love for the Kurds (why is Kılıçdaroğlu so afraid to speak for Kurdish rights? Why did the CHP take down the Kurdish signs in Dersim? This waffling alienates both Turks and Kurds, and benifits no one). In general I blame Kılıçdaroğlu most of all, he is supposed to be a fresh face of the CHP, but he only brings back a few centre Leftists and assimilated Kurds and those most afraid of the AKP. He glorifies coup-supporters as he pretends to distance himself from Baykal (who everyone knows is right there next to him). He is too weak to insult Kerdoğan as often and strongly as he deserves, and he presents no alternative, not enough for so-called "social democracy".

And I do not blame:

Foreigners. Not because there aren't FILTHY foreign roles in Turkish politics (the US, Saudi Arabia, and the Zionist state especially), but because these roles are largely unchanged, unlike the three political movements mentioned above, and if any of those had changed for the better, they could present a real challenge to the foreign meddling.

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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:17 pm

I also wanted to publicly congratulate the city of Îdir! They did not send a single AKP or CHP candidate to parliament, only one BDP-affiliated "indepedent" and one MHP member. Iğdır: They know who they are and what they want to say, and they do not take kindly to your bullshit! You large, well-funded, media-controlling Stenbol/Enqere/Îzmîr-friendly parties! Drop dead!

Also, I just found out: Reşqelas? Really? Does anyone actually use this name? Because I absolutely adore it.

PS: My father-in-law informs me that he knows the city by the name "Elaşqirt". Any input on this is welcome.
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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: Saipul » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:25 pm

The BDP has done very well. They've increased their number of MPs from 20 in the last election to 34-35 this time around.

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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:28 pm

Saipul wrote:The BDP has done very well.


Agreed. But they could've done more, either in or out of the electoral process.
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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: ideas » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:33 pm

I'm happy that this time round the Kurdish parties won in quite a few of the more eastern provinces, and I'm very glad that this time round they won in Mardin! which is also great, but let's face it... the AKP and other Turkish parties have money... the Kurdish parties do not... the people that vote for Kurds are pure nationalists, while the others who vote for AKP are mostly Islamic/bribed people! this means that the Kurdish MP's need to try hard to get the Islamic people to their side! this is very very important!

What % of votes did the BDP get?

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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:23 pm

bdp got 6,63% of votes.

results:
http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2011/06/13/i ... rf=1&ver=4

i think it still low, but better than votings before.

what is inönü republic? why is it not atatürk republic?
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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: Barış » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:49 pm

Google search Mustafa İsmet İnönü... ;)
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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:59 pm

Also for your consideration, since I know she is well liked (I don't care about her or any politician, I care about the Kurdish people as a group. They do not need a leader to tell them they are being mistreated, and the insinuation that they do feeds Kemalist propaganda that Kurds are stupid and/or puppets of someone [usually foreign, either "the Jews", "Israel", Iran, the United States, Russia, Greece or Armenia]): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13698915

kurd-sthanam wrote:what is inönü republic? why is it not atatürk republic?


1. Atatürk is too easy. I don't even feel like my brain is on when I make such easy jokes.
2. The sound is funnier to me.
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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: Saipul » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:32 am

36 seats for the BDP. They even increased their vote from the rather successful local elections in 2009. Long-term, of course, the aim would be for closer to 10% of the vote.

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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:30 am

36 seats is good and it will keep increasing , we need the Islamic and assimilated kurds , KRG can/must support BDP financially :).
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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: New Corduene » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:14 am

A massive victory for the Kurds. BDP was able to gain % 6.65 of the votes, catapulting its number of deputies from a mere 20 to 36, having a real weight in the parliamnet.

To view full information about the elected members and the total votes they have gained, please visit this link;

http://secim2011.hurriyet.com.tr/partidetay.aspx?pid=1

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I personally don't buy into the Bullshit that BDP 'could do better here and there'! The last Kurdish party (DTP) was closed down by the Turkish fascists in 2009. Yet in less than two years time, not only were they able to re-organize themselves, but in fact they made quite a comeback being better, stronger and more nationalist than ever before.

The Kurds have been able to garner more votes than ever before and put more deputies into the parliament than they ever could for the past 90 years. The positive point is that this time, the elected Kurdish members are the best collection ever, including (Sebahat Tuncel, Hatip Dicle, Altan Tan, Selahattin Demirtas, Ahmet Turk, Gultan Kisanak, Aysel Tugluk, Hasip Kaplan, and last but not least, the great Leyla Zana). In other words, the elected Kurdish members are the best that have been produced in the past 20 years, and one could argue in the whole 90 years since the establishment of the republic.

Not to forget, the number of elected deputies for both MHP and AKP have decreased, only CHP and BDP have been able to increase their elected members, and comparing between the two proportionally, BDP has gained more votes/MPs than any other party.

Good job fellas! With such limited resources and all the constant media and physical attacks and abuses on the Kurdish parties and people, be it politicians or journalists. Yet, with their courage, they showed defiance in the face of tyranny and were able to once again remind the butchers that no matter what method those neurotic psychos use, the Kurdish fire will not extinguish, the Kurdish spirit will not fade. Bravo! A million bravos.
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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:16 pm

yes, it could be better in dersim, dersim gave more than 50% of the votes to chp. the turkish/kurdish singer ferhat tunc is not voted. its a province by very little population now but there are million in diaspora and outside the province. and ferhat tunc is very known singer/activist in turkey, both by turks and kurds. sad that he was not voted. but other places, yes it was very succeful voting. if there was not the 10% the number of candidates could be more.
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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: ideas » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:05 pm

To be honest I was king of hoping for all the Kurdish cities to vote at leas 90% for Kurds, but what ever they did well :)

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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:56 pm

ideas wrote:To be honest I was king of hoping for all the Kurdish cities to vote at leas 90% for Kurds, but what ever they did well :)


colemerg is the city that have allways around 90%. :)
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Re: The results of the elections in the İnönü Republic

PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:29 am

I think Dersim will soon give up on Kılıçdaroğlu, just as many less radical Kurds are giving up on Kerdoğan (the main reason I linked the Leyla Zana article in fact was because she mentioned that Kurds have given Kerdoğan a chance but he doesn't give THEM a chance). A Turkish friend (who is much more afraid of Kerdoğan than I am, or than most Turks or Kurds are, and almost voted CHP out of fear) says that he thinks this is the peak of Kerdoğan's popular support. I hope so, but I think he won't hit his peak for another year or so. Then we must hope his party distintegrates, along with the CHP of course (fuck the CHP).

I wasn't even done. Fuck the CHP. Look at the difference between how Bahçeli shit-talked Kerdoğan during the elections and Kılıçdaroğlu! Of course the mainstream Turkish media avoids showing BDP speeches at all costs, so what you have is a televised "debate" (Kılıçdaroğlu kept asking for a real debate, which Kerdoğan avoided, of course) that looked like this:

Kerdoğan: I AM THE ANATOLIAN MASSES! I AM THE CHILDREN IN GAZA! THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAS OR IS A THING OF SOMETHING OR SOME KIND! THE BDP AND THE CHP ARE IN A CONSPIRACY AGAINST ME! THE MHP AND THE CHP ARE IN A CONSPIRACY AGAINST ME! THE MHP IS THE BDP! GAZA!
Bahçeli: ERDOĞAN IS A CHUMP! HE NEEDS TO BE QUIET! HE DOESN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT TURKEY! WHY DOESN'T HE GO LIVE IN SAUDI ARABIA?
Kılıçdaroğlu: Excuse me, I would like to have a debate with you Kerdoğan. I disagree.

I'm exaggerating somewhat, and Kılıçdaroğlu had his moments, but honestly, Kerdoğan got away with saying Kılıçdaroğlu was "a shame on his religion". It's true though. Kılıçdaroğlu is a shame for the Alevis. But it would've been nice if his response (instead of nothing) was "Oh yeah? Well you're the worst excuse for a Sunni this side of Mumbai, motherfucker!" To be fair to him, as an Alevi he would get in trouble shit-talking Sunnis, but this was the general trend. Kerdoğan insults all other parties collectively and rudely, insults their leaders and supporters and their culture. And Kılıçdaroğlu continued campaigning as though the country was not being run by power-drunk populist pretending to care for Palestinian children while profiting off of the explosives dropped on their poor heads.

G-d they all make me sick to my stomach I can't even TALK properly.
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