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The Men of Nineveh Shall Rise In Judgment

PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:57 pm

10/5/2005 5:00:27
By AssyriaTimes Staff Writer

The future of Iraq and its constitution will depend on the outcome of the October 15 referendum in the province of Nineveh, where the majority of the Assyrians live.

Nineveh, one of the most beautiful cities of the ancient Assyrian empire 6000 BC, and its capital from 705 to 612 BC, has outlived many constitutions, governments, and tyrants in the past and will continue to do so as predicted in the bible:

Matthews 12:41 – The men of Nineveh shall rise to judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it …

Today, the governorate of Nineveh holds the key position due to its multi-ethnic nature, where the 1.7 million Sunni Arabs, and the 500,000 to 600,000 Assyrian Christians, Shabaks, Yezidis, and Turkmen population make more than two million the majority over the only 200,000 Kurdish minority.

After numerous attempts by the Assyrians and others in Nineveh to bring changes to the unjust drafted document have fallen on deaf ear, it seems that the overwhelming majority of the Assyrians will vote “No” on the referendum which reflects Shiites and Kurdish priorities, when it should represent all Iraqis, not to mention its indigenous people, the Assyrians. The Sunni leaders have also indicated they will vote this time and if the document isn’t rewritten before then, they too will vote “No”.

Nineveh’s constituencies votes along with the other three critical provinces of Salah al-Din, Anbar, and Diyala will ascertain the defeat of the Shiite/Kurd constitution by a two-third majority vote, unless urgent amendments are made to the draft charter before October 15, 2005.

Massive vote fraud were reported during and after the January elections in Nineveh, but the IECI, the government of Iraq, and even United State downplayed the seriousness of the ballot-stuffing. Despite repeated complains and evidence of Kurdish militia’s responsibility for the crime, no one was held accountable for denying hundreds of thousands of Assyrians their right to cast their votes. No one knows what security measures the American and Iraqi forces are taking to prevent a repeat of the same shameful act on October 15.

AssyriaSat (the Assyrian Global Television Network) constantly receives news from Nineveh of the intimidation force the Kurdish militias are using to stop the people from voting on Oct 15, and the amount of bribes they have paid some Christian clergies to encourage their congregation to submit to the Kurdish oppression and invasion of their lands.

Assyrians’ objections and recommendations to the draft constitution are very simple:



Rewrite the preamble to reflect the truth about who brought about that glorious civilization in Iraq? The simple answer could be found in any history book, the Assyrians. The preamble must also acknowledge the fact that thousands of the Assyrian Christians were also martyred by the previous dictators who sat foot In Iraq after the fall of Nineveh.


A legal and legitimate, not to mention democratic constitution must grant its indigenous people their national rights. The draft charter does not mention the national rights of the Assyrians.


The Kurds must cease their claim on the Assyrian towns and villages in the Assyrian triangle in Northern Iraq. They must refrain from calling the ancient land of Assyria as “Kurdistan”, a fabricated name that does not exist and holds no historical legitimacy.


All Assyrians must be acknowledged in the constitution by their ancient holy name, the Assyrians, regardless of their church denominations. The Chaldeans mentioned in the constitution are Assyrians in ethnicity who are members of the Catholic Church, no more and no less.


Install clauses in the charter that will make future amendments to the constitution feasible.
The Assyrians believe that thousands of coalition soldiers and innocent Iraqis did not die for Iraq to be divided in pieces and its indigenous people be treated as second class citizens. The Assyrians respect the rights of all the ethnic groups who have migrated to Iraq in the past, but the inescapable fact remains that the Assyrians have been the original owners of these lands from the beginning of the Creation.

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:29 pm

So cool, you have extreme-right press in Iraq.


Today, the governorate of Nineveh holds the key position due to its multi-ethnic nature, where the 1.7 million Sunni Arabs, and the 500,000 to 600,000 Assyrian Christians, Shabaks, Yezidis, and Turkmen population make more than two million the majority over the only 200,000 Kurdish minority.


Yeah, ok, we Know, There are no kurds in Mossoul. Funny calculation though

1,7 millions arab + 600 000 assyrians + Turkmens (who claim 1000000), + Shabaks and Yezidis (kurds) = more than 2 Millions. Well it looks like 3 to me, but what the hell

The Sunni leaders have also indicated they will vote this time and if the document isn’t rewritten before then, they too will vote “No”.


So Assyrian nationalist support Sunnis. It is not new, and I am sure that Assyrian who are killed by sunnis in Bagdad are very happy to learn that

Massive vote fraud were reported during and after the January elections in Nineveh, but the IECI, the government of Iraq, and even United State downplayed the seriousness of the ballot-stuffing.


We know, Turkmens say the same.

Despite repeated complains and evidence of Kurdish militia’s responsibility for the crime, no one was held accountable for denying hundreds of thousands of Assyrians their right to cast their votes.


Hundred of Thousands of Assyrians did not vote?????? OOOOH that's why, I see.


No one knows what security measures the American and Iraqi forces are taking to prevent a repeat of the same shameful act on October 15.


At least when the constitution will be approve, we will know why, it is cool they already provide explanation for their defeat :lol:



AssyriaSat (the Assyrian Global Television Network) constantly receives news from Nineveh of the intimidation force the Kurdish militias are using to stop the people from voting on Oct 15, and the amount of bribes they have paid some Christian clergies to encourage their congregation to submit to the Kurdish oppression and invasion of their lands.


Again, pre-defeat explanation: if christian clergy, which is maybe not nationalist enough, is telling assyrians to vote, it is because they were bribed. Is "we will let you in peace and we will build something together" a way to bribe?

Kurdish oppression and invasion. Yeah right.

Assyrians’ objections and recommendations to the draft constitution are very simple:


OOOh so this newspaper is talking in the name of all assyrians? I see

Put some stuff about assyrians in the preamble. why not indee, who cares anyway.

Turkey should put some stuff about Hittites and Sumerians as well.



A legal and legitimate, not to mention democratic constitution must grant its indigenous people their national rights. The draft charter does not mention the national rights of the Assyrians.


Well it mentions their cultural rights, and democracy as well...it does not say "they shall reconquer the empire and get an independant state over Kurdistan". That's true

The Kurds must cease their claim on the Assyrian towns and villages in the Assyrian triangle in Northern Iraq. They must refrain from calling the ancient land of Assyria as “Kurdistan”, a fabricated name that does not exist and holds no historical legitimacy.



That will be a little problem I think, but I'm sure 500 000 assyrians can create militias to prevent the word "kurdistan" to be enounciated by 4 000 000 kurds. No problem

LOL for "they must refrain" :lol:


The Chaldeans mentioned in the constitution are Assyrians in ethnicity who are members of the Catholic Church, no more and no less.


Poor chaldeans...honnestly Kurds should do something for them, they really have some stubborn ennemies


Install clauses in the charter that will make future amendments to the constitution feasible.


FEASIBLE???????????????????

the Assyrians have been the original owners of these lands from the beginning of the Creation.


Nope I believe just before there were a few dinausorus. Maybe they were assyrians as well though. Or CHALDEANS?
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:31 pm

But thank you for sharing this with us, really interesting...honnestly, would I be a PDK member I would put these "journalists" into detention!

"kurds should refrain from saying kurdistan"...disgusting!!! You should ally with turks!
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:19 pm

But thank you for sharing this with us, really interesting...honnestly, would I be a PDK member I would put these "journalists" into detention!

"kurds should refrain from saying kurdistan"...disgusting!!! You should ally with turks!


Whats wrong with you Bretton guy????

Why should i ally with Turkey who made a plan to destory the light(christians) from middle east and anatolia and let this places without love.

Come on mean your so noneducated you even dont know what you are.

and stop saying chaldeans are chaldeans you dont know anything about it.
its cause the european always have to put their noses in peoples things go handle first your own problem with drugs,bordells,childrenhustlers,rapers etc.

and yes haha why are the chaldeans living on the Nineveh Plains because it was the capital of Chaldea right this Chaldean Dynastie which exist only 75 years and the Assyrian empire 1000 years.


ok i have to say your right northiraq was always known as Kurdistan and Chaldea sorry if i was saying something wrong master tomjez.

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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:31 pm

Ninawa
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Ninawa is a governorate (province) in Iraq, and the Arabic name for the biblical city of Nineveh in Assyria. It has an area of 37,323 km2 and an estimated population of 2,509,800 people. Its chief city, and the provincial capital, is Mosul (in Arabic al Mawsil).

Cities:

Mosul: mostly Arabs, Assyrians and Kurds (population over 2,000,000)
Tall Afar: mainly Kurds and Turkmen population 161,400

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:16 pm

I say ally with turks, but I'm wrong. Even Turks start to say "Kurdistan" for "Northern Irak"
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:23 pm

Why should i ally with Turkey who made a plan to destory the light(christians) from middle east and anatolia and let this places without love.


You're very far from light, and very very far from love. God protect me of a love of your kind.

Again I say ally with turkey because you are as dumb as a turks saying "there is no kurdistan". Same thing. NO DIFFERENCE. FACE IT man, you're part of a Dumbass international.

your own problem with drugs,bordells,childrenhustlers,rapers etc.


uh? :shock:



this Chaldean Dynastie which exist only 75 years and the Assyrian empire 1000 years.


SO IT EXISTED?????? :lol:

What will never reach your rotten mind, is that NOBODY CAAAARES of what happend in Mesopotamia 2000 YEARS BEFORE? NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only a small fringe of assyrians? OK????? HOW could reasonnable people decide of politics and REALITY matters if they refer to what happened 2000 years ago?

The place where my house is in Brittanny was maybe occupied 2000 years ago by a pre celtic population. What is it to me???

Is it too painful to be part of a people which once had a great civilisation? There are other thing in life you know. I mean egyptian are not always refering to pyramids, italians to ROME, or Greeks to Pericles. Let's move on!
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:27 pm

And come on, wikipedia...anybody can write in Wikipedia. YOU CAN too, so it does not speak for its credibility...

Anyway people trying to keep order in Mossoul are Kurds now. You now KURDISH GANGS? recognized by americans, with regular armies...

Your stupid guys from this assyriatimes (I checked, this is brilliant) really think that they will make an alliance with sunnis against kurds???

An alliance between Sunni Arabs and CHRISTIANS? Do you KNOW theses people? Do you see Zarkaoui as a liberator of Assyria?????
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:39 pm

Hey Ereb man dont talk so much you just talk and talk without seeing what a shit you talk.

Who the hell is saying Assyrians gonna work with Sunnits or anyother people against huamanity christianity and freedom??

I dont care about Turkey if they deny Kurdistan.

and who is saying i am denying kurdistan i just am saying its bordes are to much going into the west and that is a fact that they are claiming too much.

Come on French guy your off topic dont bring examples of agyptens or celtics i aint care about them.

i was just saying that chaldeans are catholic assyrians this is a fact too i did proove it here.

your doing the same like turks dont accept the truth that chaldean is just a religious domination not a ethnic.

and well i can be proud of the Assyrians they did much glory days and sad days what happend to this world you have always to remind.

i am for a K-Stan but they should bring it to far to.


and never will i go under the Kurdish Arabic or Turkey law and i dont want to be part of this counry.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:12 pm

i am for a K-Stan but they should bring it to far to.


and never will i go under the Kurdish Arabic or Turkey law and i dont want to be part of this counry.



Tom - THANK YOU! :lol:


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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:31 pm

Tom - THANK YOU!


Now Rumtaya shows his REAL face...


what you mean with REAL face?

didnt i always said what i am saying now yes i did.

that is my opinion and you guys are making yourself as the vicitims here.
once again i repeat dont see the medalion from one side it gots two!

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PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:47 pm

In your signature it should say :

"MR. BARZANÎ - PRESIDENT OF KURDISTAN AND ASSYRIA"
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:07 am

Well if they keep on working with sunnis it will be "Islamic republic of Al-Assyria" :lol:
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:48 pm

In your signature it should say :

"MR. BARZANÎ - PRESIDENT OF KURDISTAN AND ASSYRIA"


thats a good joke more it wont be then just a joke.

mabye ill change it to Mr Barzani occupider and opresser of Assyria and Assyrians :wink:

Well if they keep on working with sunnis it will be "Islamic republic of Al-Assyria"


very funny Islamic republic hmm you know that the Shia want a islamic rebublic so not really good name.

Assyria is Assyria
Iraq is Alcohol
Kurdistan is Kurdistan and outside of mesopotamia
and French people who did opressed others shouldnt talk so much

I wont let noone rule on me neither Agha, Amir or Pasha(thats a Assyrian song)

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:24 pm

Rumtaya wrote:and French people who did opressed others shouldnt talk so much

I wont let noone rule on me neither Agha, Amir or Pasha(thats a Assyrian song)


People taking all their informations from Extreme right websites should definitely shut up as well
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