PKK in Turkey

[Dilo]

Watch your dirty mouth!!!

Dude!! What you have said doesn’t bring anything good but harm to our unity and our nation struggle so I guess you the one of cheaper baggers ,gypsy grow up in street, go educate yourself then come we talk.

Denying PKK and its leadership, it is absolute madness.

We do not need those who learning our language to destroy us know her French chic very well know her motives(as they did in Rawanda..oh yeah sound is very familiar..one single French man Radio announcer cause killing 1.3 millions..)

Oh my God,the Pkk succeeded in penetrating your small brain and formating it!!

If only i spoke english fluently Womanizer,i would have said to you what i really think about "our Sun of Humanity" and about YOU!

Insult me if you want,that will not change anything to what i think about the CRETIN of Imrali.
So yes,i'm probably "one of baggers,gupsy grow up in street",but one thing is sure,I WILL NEVER SUPPORT THE PKK MEGALOMANIAC LEADER!!Do you understand it, or do you want me to write it in Kurmançï...or in turkish,sorry...

The problem with the pkk and much of their sympathizers is that: you support the pkk,you are a KURD and you are in the right way.You are against the pkk or don't approve their ideas,you are a coward,a traitor,you are against the kurdish people etc...Stop this stupid reasoning!!

Thus i confirm,i'm AGAINST Apo,AGAINST nepotism, corruption and "our bi-partism" in southern Kurdistan,but i will always defend our legitimate cause.My freedom of expression is more important than the pkk or another kurdish political party's propaganda!
Apo is a small dunkey who defends his own cause,not that of the kurdish people.And he serves also very well the interests of the turkish criminal regime!

You make me laugh with your speech on the unity of the Kurdish leaders!

[womanizer]

I have been explaining over and over to your cheap baggers!!! Kurdistan is one!! nothing can divide us, so have as much pain you can have.PKK will rule Kurdistan and so called French gangs who responsible for killing millions Kurds will be punished.

STOP ATTACKING KURDISTAN!!
Kurdish internal problem is only matters to Kurds
French chic instead you talking about my country you better talk about Basque, African who still suffering on your hand. Stop your haters Towards Kurds.
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[womanizer]

@Dilo
you don’t have to PKK member, nor supporting it, you join any politicaly party or non of them as you wish, but Kurdistan and its peoples unity must be considered and its come above all., have you seen me ever attacking any parties..no, because is very critical moment of our history. thsi kind haters and personal attack divide our peoples, it is is harming Kurds and their unity when you attacking a Kurdistan political party is wrong...so if you don’t understand this very simple very argument..Then you can’t call yourselves a Kurd.

[Piling]

PKK will rule Kurdistan and so called French gangs who responsible for killing millions Kurds will be punished.

LOL ! We are so afraid !

[womanizer]

franch Chic!!

you don’t need be afraid, we sell you to some Arabs in desert, so you better start learn some kind bailey dance dance.

[Piling]

Let's begin to win the war before, because for the moment, you have only a leader who cries and begs pardon to ennemy.

[Vladimir]

Dear Russian Mafia, Vladimir

Good point Valid, but as you are Kurdish activist and sympatric, you really could do more, I seen you article, in news and blogs, some disappointing. i do not critizing your objectivity nor your opinions. But one should think. As Kurdish friend what would benefited them by attacking PKK? While we have giant enemies’ media and their friends world wide bombarding with news headlines misleading world and showing us as killers. Inhuman..etc..
PKK is one of biggest party in whole Kurdistan and as first party in Kurdistan history ever fought in 4 front lines.PKK is symbolize Kurdistan as whole regardless as followers or believers or not.PKK stand as strong as ever during hardest time. It is proud of our nation sacrifice, It is a glory of Kurdish race.
You know Southern Kurdistan President, last month said, there is no such Kurdish party in here and in northern Kurdistan as terrorist(even he never called PKK a terrorist during his visit to USA, he show them as freedom fighters),. So that should ring bell to all peoples who talk about PKK. Because he knows what is good for our nation unity and he knows what PKK stand for.

What's disappointing? I think you can achieve more by staying independent and neutral.

[Diri]

As stated in he UN's article on terrorism: "One man's terrorist, can be another man's freedom fighter" --- Fair enough...

I don't agree with the PKK's ideology...

Instead of slogans like "Azadî bo Kurdistan" ("Freedom for Kurdistan) and "Serxwebûn bo Kurd" ("Self-determination for Kurds") - they shout slogans like "Azadî bo Öcalan" ("Freedom for Öcalan") and "Bê Apo Kurdistan nabe" ("Without Apo there can be no Kurdistan")...

Is it strange that people like myself feel ALIANATED???

Because you see the PKK isn't fighting DIRECTLY for an "Free Kurdistan"... The matter is: the PKK NEEDS a "Free Kurdistan" - for it to have any power at all... Without a forum or turf (Kurdistan) to convey and practice their ideologi, they have NO real-political power over the people...

Currently they ARE working on the people - getting support, for what they THINK is a struggle for "independent Kurdistan" - but let's look at some of these myths surrounding the PKK's ideology:

1) The PKK did not untill as of late, recognize the National Flag of Kurdistan - with it's tricolor and blazing sun with it's 21 rays of light!
2)The PKK did not untill as of late, recognize the National Anthem of Kurdistan - which is Ey Reqîb!

Analyzing 1 & 2 ---) How can a "national Kurdistanî party" be against the national anthem of Kurdistan - and the national flag of Kurdistan??? For 20 years the flag of the PKK was the "national flag" - and now suddenly the KKK has become the new "national" flag of the PKK - just go to: http://www.Kurdishinfo.com ---) Look at "languages" you can choose from - look at the flags!!! Instead of the KURDISTANÎ flag - the KKK* is displayed as "Kurdish language"!

(*Koma Komelên Kurdistanê)

3) The PKK was untill as of late, against religion, Islam in particular - wich meant excluding 85% of Kurds - whom took and still think highly of their religion!
4) The PKK was and still is against Eshîret's

Analyzing 3 & 4 ---) This means being against Kurdish culture - because of the importance of both religion AND social structure in socities of Kurdistan! Think of the hundreds of Kurdistani religious sects and sufi orders etc. the Neqshbendî etc. and not to mention the Shêx, Qazî and Seîd etc. families and tribes... The Êzidî and Elewî - the Yarsanî and other groups! It would mean excluding the majority of Kurds from this "Kurdistani party"... And think about all the great people who've served their KURDISH nation - Shêx Seîd! Seîd Barzanî! Qazî Mihemmed! These three families have done more for Kurds and Kurdistan than the PKK or "Apo" ever will do...

5) The PKK was and still is against capitalism and free economy
6) The PKK worships Abdullah Öcalan like he was some sort of god figure (Estefillah) - anybody who cares to differ or disagree is prosecuted and tortured/killed. (I need only point to the endless line of people who suffered because they disagreed with Apo or the PKK's ideology!)

Analyzing 5 & 6 ---) These two matters also mean being against Kurdish culture! Because in Kurdish culture, a free economy is vital. While on a more important level; in Kurdish culture it's more than vital to be free to believe and support what you choose - whereas the PKK would have us believe there is nothing except Apo and "Bijî Serok Apo"... But in Kurdistan - you will find the Christian - the Capitalist - the Liberalist - the Feîlî - the Êzidî - the Sufi and the Muslim - the Jew - the Socialist - the Communist - the Anarchist - the Peasent - the Farmer - the Buisnessman and so manny more social and political layers... Are we just gonna suppress them all and highlight the communist values of Mao and Lenin? Because that is what the PKK and Apo stand for...

Even people who support the PKK can't be so blind that they don't see the similarities between the ideology of North Korea and the PKK - worshipping an absurd person - who's not the least in touch with the local culture...

He grew up a Turk - and founded with some communists, his party in Ankara... The party was banned and a coup' followed ----) they needed a support base to practice their ideology and to form their communist ideology... "Why not Kurdistan? The people are uneducated and illiterate - there is poverty and we can easily fool the masses into rebelling against the few who have some power and controll over the lands... This will be a piece of cake!!!"

Dest xosh gelê Kurdistana bakûr - for you who stood and still stand against this perverted ideology...

Dest xosh xûshk û birayê Kurd û Kurdistanî...


My 2 cents...

[womanizer]

@Diri
What you have said is total out accuracy and very much childish thinking..
Simple question,
Do you really think attacking PKK and insulting its leadership in here would bring anything good to Kurds, beside French chic and enemies advantage??

Going to past by saying this and that, it is harm to our nation, there is some many think I can point from each political party, but for sake our nation I am not in position to make such propaganda out of it and divide my peoples, I certainly don’t do that, as I have said, Kurdistan will decide when is free of bugs.

I don’t think you have any knowledge of northern Kurdistan at all..So read thinks more carefully and objectively before you make such accusation.

You seem totally mixing Strategies with ideology. Something you seem not knowing at all.

PKK as I said whether you like it or not, is only hope to future of Kurdistan. You just can’t see it now, because there are manly like you, they can’t see what we see, they are hopeless and non believer to their own legitimate cause.

[zurderer]

It is interesting, womanizer and turkish fasist have another common point too.


Both of them say PKK=Kurds.

[Piling]

No Turksih fascist say : Kurds = PKK.

[zurderer]

They do, MHP doesnot but they do.

A lot of thing is changing, This Turkey-PKK thing also change, It is becoming turkish-kurdish.

[Diri]

@Diri
What you have said is total out accuracy and very much childish thinking..
Simple question,
Do you really think attacking PKK and insulting its leadership in here would bring anything good to Kurds, beside French chic and enemies advantage??

Going to past by saying this and that, it is harm to our nation, there is some many think I can point from each political party, but for sake our nation I am not in position to make such propaganda out of it and divide my peoples, I certainly don’t do that, as I have said, Kurdistan will decide when is free of bugs.

I don’t think you have any knowledge of northern Kurdistan at all..So read thinks more carefully and objectively before you make such accusation.

You seem totally mixing Strategies with ideology. Something you seem not knowing at all.

PKK as I said whether you like it or not, is only hope to future of Kurdistan. You just can’t see it now, because there are manly like you, they can’t see what we see, they are hopeless and non believer to their own legitimate cause.

Womanizer - look at your words...

Just because I don't agree with your version of "reality" you have branded me as "biased", "childish", "dividing Kurds", "harming our nation" and that I don't know what I am talking about - telling me I have no knowledge on Northern Kurdistan... And so the story goes...

I think that is very pathetic...

[tomjez]

Diri!

How dear you argumentate so cleverly and expose how PKK really is! How dare you saying the truth! How dare you thinking, when Apo thinks for you!
You're a feudal non-scientific brainless traitor to your race!


Womanizer!

Am I good? Or should I improve the style a bit more. I think I almost got it.

[Diri]

Diri!

How dear you argumentate so cleverly and expose how PKK really is! How dare you saying the truth! How dare you thinking, when Apo thinks for you!
You're a feudal non-scientific brainless traitor to your race!


Womanizer!

Am I good? Or should I improve the style a bit more. I think I almost got it.

Man - you should lay off Apo's books! He's gotten to your mind too!!!



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