Hypothetical Question for Kurdish People

[Azamat]

Djembe and Azamat are not the same person.

I'm glad you took the time.

[kurdimemin_diako]

kak Ideas - do you know how "powerful" turkish army looks like after trip to Zagros Mountains?

well ..... some of them are already in zagros monts

[Kulka]

most of them coming back home like that, kaka gyan:

[Kulka]

the question - whom they met in Zagros mountains?

the answer - these noddy kurdish girls:


and - boys:

[Djembe]

most of them coming back home like that, kaka gyan:

Kulka, I think you are barbaric. Only barbaric people have some kind of sick joy from the death of another human being. I think only psychopaths would pleasure and enjoyment of death. How can you stand up -righteously- against the murder of Kurdish people by the soldiers of Turkish state while you glorify and celebrate the death of another human being.

I have great respect for Turkish soldiers as much as Kurdish rebels who are willing to die for their cause. They are not really the problem, the problem is the leaders, politicians from both sides and lack of their creativity to have a rational solution for the people of Kurdish people.

[Kulka]

first tell it to your turkish fellows - coz nobody injoy oppresing and killing Kurds like turks. but of course - again - if something apply to us - its negative, if the same apply to turks - its completly different story and its nothing negative with that - double morality - congratulations! the same your kerdogan condemn syria, israel etc for crimes against people - while at the same time he is doing the same to Kurds - thats how you are. but of course you are not barbarians with all the crimes, genocides and other shit you doing to humans

[Djembe]

first tell it to your turkish fellows - coz nobody injoy oppresing and killing Kurds like turks. but of course - again - if something apply to us - its negative, if the same apply to turks - its completly different story and its nothing negative with that - double morality - congratulations! the same your kerdogan condemn syria, israel etc for crimes against people - while at the same time he is doing the same to Kurds - thats how you are. but of course you are not barbarians with all the crimes, genocides and other shit you doing to humans

I am equally disgusted by people like you from Turkish people, i.e. MHP, Ulusalci, Kemalist... What you don't realize, you, Kulka, has more similarity for those Turkish people who commit great tragedy for Kurdish people. You and those Turkish people have a lots of common in terms of fanaticism. Like I said, you are too dumb to understand the point. Everything you post here based on the 'generalization' of Turkish. Everything I am posting here based on 'specific reference' you and your kind.

[Kulka]

do you consider the word "dumb" as insulting? coz 5 mins ago you claim only i insult here. but its also typical - when you dont have anything clever to say you use words like that.
the difference - if you didint notice is that Kurds are fighting FOR their human rights and turks are fighting AGAINST kurdish human rights - so comapring these two things is more than dumb.

[Djembe]

do you consider the word "dumb" as insulting? coz 5 mins ago you claim only i insult here. but its also typical - when you dont have anything clever to say you use words like that.
the difference - if you didint notice is that Kurds are fighting FOR their human rights and turks are fighting AGAINST kurdish human rights - so comapring these two things is more than dumb.

I thought I explained it to you. My insult, the focus is 'Kulka'. I don't give any reference to your ethnic qualities. I am totally focused on your dumbness which has nothing to do with your ethnicity, gender, race. It is totally based on your posts.

Your insults has a reference to my ethnic background, Turkishness. That is a different. There is a significant difference between.

'Bitch' vs 'Turkish Bitch' , 'Black Bitch' and 'Muslim Bitch'. Capish????

[Kulka]

poor ataclown... i dont know feel sorry for you? no, it would be funny to feel sorry for enemy. if go down to your level - i would write about your stupidity, but i am here as kurdish and you are turk, tegeyshti?

[ideas]

Djembe and Azamat are not the same person. Also if the insults continue this Topic will have to be locked.
So please try to have mature debates without the insulting of eachother.

Thanks Baris for clarifying this.

Ideas would be very bad judge if he or she chooses the profession in justice field. What 'ideas' failed here the basic principle of justice. The benefit of the doubt, meaning I suspect, but because of the benefit of the doubt, i shall be quiet. Obviously his or her biased Kurdishness is a factor. Meaning, if you ain't Kurd, you can't be trusted. Well, unfortunately people like ideas exist that is one of the reason the world is not better today.

Shut the hell up seriously, what are you trieng to achieve in this forum? I don't trust Turks, and you being on of them.

My opinion still stands, there are ways to change IPs (i.e. system mistakes, proxies etc) so don't go on blabbing on about that crap, becuase I won't change my mind, besides you and borat talk the same etc.

[Kulka]

thats a kind of joke i think that the representative of the most unjust and opressive country in the world is talking about justice.

the example of turkish "justice" :

Courts continued to use terrorism laws to prosecute hundreds of demonstrators deemed to be PKK supporters as if they were the group’s armed militants. Most spent prolonged periods in pre-trial detention, and those convicted received long prison sentences. A legal amendment by parliament in July will mean that convictions of children under the laws will be quashed. The laws remain otherwise unchanged.

Hundreds of officials and activist members of the pro-Kurdish party DTP and its successor BDP (which has 20 parliamentary members) were prosecuted during the year, including for links to the KCK.

In October seven mayors, several lawyers, and a human rights defender were among 151 officials and activists tried in Diyarbakır for alleged separatism and KCK membership. At the time of the writing of this report, the mayors had spent 10 months-and the 53 other defendants 18 months-in pre-trial detention, while around 1,000 DTP/BDP officials and members suspected of KCK affiliation were in pre-trial detention nationwide, raising concerns about the right to political participation.

Muharrem Erbey, vice-president of the Human Rights Association (HRA) and chair of its Diyarbakır branch, was arrested in December 2009 for alleged KCK membership and held in detention until his trial in October. Vetha Aydin, chair of HRA’s Siirt branch, was arrested in March for alleged KCK membership."

"EU LEGAL OBSERVERS BARRED FROM TURKEY’S ‘LANDMARK’ TRIAL ON KURDISH RIGHTS

European observers were barred from a Turkish court room today (Friday), after judges denied the right of 102 defendants to use the country’s minority Kurdish language in what are alleged to be political prosecutions."

and bright "intelligence":
"The manner in which the evidence in the trials is exaggerated is clear from the sheer volume of the 7,500 page indictment and supporting evidence, consisting of over 13,000,000 pages. In these pages there is no evidence of weapons or aggression in any kind directed at any of the defendants who stand trial. The only evidence obtained consists of intercept evidence of daily conversations and routine political propaganda or views and secret evidence by way of anonymous witnesses. Some conversations are in relation to the purchase of groceries i.e. tomatoes and in others the conversations are between family and friends. These conversations have found itself in the indictment as being secret codes. The fact that there is no evidence or suggestion of weaponry or aggression is in our view indicative of the will of the Kurdish people and politicians for a peaceful solution to the Kurdish issue, which we support and respect."

[Kulka]

and one more interesting example of turkishness - coz there are no other proper words to name it;

A team of linguists from France, Poland, and the US, has announced from Turkey the discovery of an unknown language. Jean-Pierre Desmarais, head of the international organisation ‘Linguistic Analysis Research Group’ (LARG), said he and his team heard that trials were taking place in Turkey in which the defendants spoke an unknown language. LARG, based in Strasbourg, France, was founded in 2001.

‘When I heard about this we put together a team and headed to the area to analyze this unknown language,’ said Desmarais.

The unusual coincidence says Desmarais is that another team of linguistics just discovered a previously unknown language in India last month. Researchers came across the new language—dubbed Koro—along the western ridges of Arunachal Pradesh, India’s northeastern-most state.

However, here in Turkey, said Desmarais, we never expected to discover an unknown language. ‘Koro is only spoken by 800 or so people and is in a very remote area. Diyarbakır is a thriving metropolis. I still can’t believe it. It is extraordinaire!’ he exclaimed.

The team has requested recordings from this trial and other trials in which defendants have made statements such as ‘Ez dixwazim bi Kurdî biaxivim’ or ‘Ez li vir im,’ all of which have been labelled an ‘unknown language’ by the Turkish courts. Courts in Istanbul and Diyarbakır however have been reluctant to hand over the recordings.

Cathy Greaney, the US participant in the team, was impressed at the sheer number of speakers of this ‘unknown language’ she has encountered. ‘There seem to be thousands, if not millions, of people who speak this language. I just don’t understand how it can be unknown. It’s a remarkable discovery.’

Bogumil Mroz, the lead Polish investigator, said the team attempted to determine what language it was by typing a phrase into the online ‘Unknown Language Detector’ tool. ‘It could not identify it,’ said Mroz. ‘It said it is Turkish.’

He says he believes, however, it is of Indo-European origin and not related to Turkish. ‘We have come to the conclusion, based on a thorough analysis of letters in this unknown language’s alphabet, that it cannot be Turkish. There are three letters used quite frequently, W, Q, and X, that simply do not exist in Turkish.’

Desmarais, Mroz, and Greaney will be heading back to Strasbourg at the end of November to continue their investigations. Says Desmarais, ‘We hope to learn what language this is by early spring. Then we can report our findings to the judges in these cases.’

[Azamat]

My opinion still stands, there are ways to change IPs (i.e. system mistakes, proxies etc) so don't go on blabbing on about that crap

Do you really expect me to go through all that shit? Just for the sake of some nonsensical 'hidden agenda'? All the time you're stating that your opinion 'still stands', but the only things I've seen coming from you are desperate deviations and uncertainty. Your baseless accusations are becoming even more fragile.

besides you and borat talk the same etc.

Djembe has clearly stated that he does not agree with me on many subjects, and I said likewise. I'm a yearner for Kurdish independence after all. So what's your point here, exactly?

[ideas]

Do you really expect me to go through all that shit? Just for the sake of some nonsensical 'hidden agenda'? All the time you're stating that your opinion 'still stands', but the only things I've seen coming from you are desperate deviations and uncertainty. Your baseless accusations are becoming even more fragile.

My opinion still stands

Djembe has clearly stated that he does not agree with me on many subjects, and I said likewise. I'm a yearner for Kurdish independence after all. So what's your point here, exactly?

My opinion still stands

Why do you care so much what I think anyway?