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A kurdish man's dilemma.

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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: Barış » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:23 pm

talsor wrote:
Barış wrote:Sorry about that. I'm a dorky Mongol. :lol: Anyways, It means ''I don't understand''. What's meaning of ''Tu le ser serimin u hardo javindmini.''?


I'm glad you know turkish then , In turkish it will roughly be :

" guzum ostona , ve basim ostona "

Not sure from the spelling though . :)

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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: Barış » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:24 pm

@ Nuray
What you think of this article?: http://www.radiozaza.de/ENGLISH/Hussein%20Tahiri.htm
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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: nuray » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:15 am

kak talsor may be i am too pesimistic. i know change does not come easy. yes usualy peace does not come without war. i do not think all kurds will unite and there are so many against kurds too. i am not a man ok. i have not read about america civil war. i am proud to be zaza! yes i know he was a zaza. i know about kurdish history. i am not ofended but i am a sister not brother. i do know about halabja, mustafa barzani, mahabad and anfal....
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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: nuray » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:24 am

Barış wrote:@ Nuray
What you think of this article?: http://www.radiozaza.de/ENGLISH/Hussein%20Tahiri.htm

i think may be we zaza are related very closely to kurds or we are kurds.
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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: talsor » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:27 pm

nuray wrote:kak talsor may be i am too pesimistic. i know change does not come easy. yes usualy peace does not come without war. i do not think all kurds will unite and there are so many against kurds too. i am not a man ok. i have not read about america civil war. i am proud to be zaza! yes i know he was a zaza. i know about kurdish history. i am not ofended but i am a sister not brother. i do know about halabja, mustafa barzani, mahabad and anfal....


Forgive me Nuray Khan (kurdish for Miss)

You are a Kurd and that is what matters to me , You will always be Gula Kurdistani , no matter what your views are :).
I'm from southern Kurdistan , and everytime I go there I stay in Diyarberker for few days with Zaza family that I know , I learned what it means to be a Kurd from them .They brainwash me :lol: , that is why my views might be too strong and even agressive sometimes , You could blame Zazakis for that .
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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: Barış » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:05 pm

Khan has different meaning where I'm from. :?
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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: matin123 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:00 pm

Barış wrote:Khan has different meaning where I'm from. :?


what is that meaning? :D

in persian they use khan for a man sort of like "sir" but in kurdish xan is miss. i'm guessing it's short for xanim (lady) which would make sense but i'm not sure
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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: Barış » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:19 pm

matin123 wrote:
Barış wrote:Khan has different meaning where I'm from. :?


what is that meaning? :D

in persian they use khan for a man sort of like "sir" but in kurdish xan is miss. i'm guessing it's short for xanim (lady) which would make sense but i'm not sure

In Mongolian ''Khaan'' means ''King''. :D
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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: matin123 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:50 pm

it's interesting the different ways the word is used. in mongolian do they ever attach it to a name to show respect or does it strictly mean king? nice hat in the picture by the way, i see you're ready for christmas !
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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: talsor » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:04 am

matin123 wrote:
Barış wrote:Khan has different meaning where I'm from. :?


what is that meaning? :D

in persian they use khan for a man sort of like "sir" but in kurdish xan is miss. i'm guessing it's short for xanim (lady) which would make sense but i'm not sure


Thanks for clarification haval Matin , it actually mean lady .
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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: Barış » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:08 pm

matin123 wrote:it's interesting the different ways the word is used. in mongolian do they ever attach it to a name to show respect or does it strictly mean king? nice hat in the picture by the way, i see you're ready for christmas !

No, It means king. Mongolia hasn't had a king since 1924, Bogd Khaan=Holy King.

:lol: Thanks. The hat is to cover my bald head, but I do dig the wintertime. 8)
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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: eva » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:32 pm

Hi every body
I am a new member, but i like the way that you are discusing politics. I am extreemely agree with taslor. I live in Hewler (Erbil), and I am close to the every day events. It is right to say that the situation is difficult, but its rong to say it is imposible to make diffrence. first of all, Kurdish area is the most secure area in Iraq. Then the changes in Kurdish society and every thing in the KRG are amazing, which mean that we are in a powerful situation, coz the security is the most important issue here.Southren Kurdistan which so called -Kurdistan of Iraq- today is ssems to be a home for other kurds from othe parts of Kurdistan. Thausends of Kurdish students, workes, lowyers, teachers, doctors, busnismen,...etc from Iran, Trkey and Syria parts of Great Kurdistan are living and working with us to biud our country. It is just a matter of time and we will proudly seperate. The difficulties about Kerkuk and Khanaqin are in the top. Arap people and central Iraqi governmet are pushing us to separate. I see Kurdish movement and politics are progressing very fast, it is like to be every day changing. look at the (WAR) over Karkuk and Khanaqin. Look at the Shite and their struggle with Sunne. The point is, Kurdish politcs is suporting the process of the peace in the middle east area. While fundumental Islamic movements in Iraq have sucide explosions, we are bulding universities, schools, moles, strees, and so on. This is the way to biuld a state.

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Re: A kurdish man's dilemma.

PostAuthor: matin123 » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:08 am

eva wrote:Hi every body
I am a new member, but i like the way that you are discusing politics. I am extreemely agree with taslor. I live in Hewler (Erbil), and I am close to the every day events. It is right to say that the situation is difficult, but its rong to say it is imposible to make diffrence. first of all, Kurdish area is the most secure area in Iraq. Then the changes in Kurdish society and every thing in the KRG are amazing, which mean that we are in a powerful situation, coz the security is the most important issue here.Southren Kurdistan which so called -Kurdistan of Iraq- today is ssems to be a home for other kurds from othe parts of Kurdistan. Thausends of Kurdish students, workes, lowyers, teachers, doctors, busnismen,...etc from Iran, Trkey and Syria parts of Great Kurdistan are living and working with us to biud our country. It is just a matter of time and we will proudly seperate. The difficulties about Kerkuk and Khanaqin are in the top. Arap people and central Iraqi governmet are pushing us to separate. I see Kurdish movement and politics are progressing very fast, it is like to be every day changing. look at the (WAR) over Karkuk and Khanaqin. Look at the Shite and their struggle with Sunne. The point is, Kurdish politcs is suporting the process of the peace in the middle east area. While fundumental Islamic movements in Iraq have sucide explosions, we are bulding universities, schools, moles, strees, and so on. This is the way to biuld a state.

eva

thank you eva xan. i also think that one of the best ways to help build south kurdistan is by kurds from east and north kurdistan to come there for school and to live. i also believe that having a such a secure region in a country that is at war will be a great example to the world that greater kurdistan should also seperate. it would be very difficult of course especially because iran, turkey, and syria don't want to give up any of "their land" but i believe it is well within reach.
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