Peace in the country, Peace in the world... M.Kemal Ataturk

[tomjez]

Congratulation, you manage to make people sick as good as armenian does.

If Dashnaki and MHP could exterminate one another, that would be a great relief for both countries.

I love these guys talking about war and conquests in 2006. Do you know when a country conquered a part of another country and was recognized by the UN for the last time?

[Vladimir]

Why don't you liberate Xinjiang!?!??

I want to see that!

[piskrt]

Why don't you liberate Xinjiang!?!??

Where is that?

[tomjez]

Uyguristan

[Rubar]

Not only the PKK ! it was never a problem for Kurds to recognize it. For that reason, there was soon an alliance between the Dashnazutiun and the Xoybûn (the first Kurdish movement), Kurds said : "yeap. We were guilty. Our feodal did it and that fucking Hamidiyye militias. Beg pardon." And that was all.

Yes. My enemy's enemy is my friend is the motto I guess. Asala nad PKK trained each other and they had camps adjacent to each other in Lebanon I guess.

And, to the recognition. Turkey should be damn stupid to accept that. Even the current Tayyip Government is not so stupid. Because after the recognition, Assyrian, Greek genocides would come. Compensation of land would come and Turkey would have to give away its land. Every crime has consequences you know.

Also, why should the Turks accept such a crime when Greeks does not ecen accept its ethnic cleansing towards ethnic Turks and Armenians do not accept what they have been doing in Azerbaijan. If truth would be restored it should be double sided. Everybodu should confess what they have done. If one side forcefully accepths what it has done, it is just a "dictation".

You are simple restating the official turkish history. THis is all the nonsense they teach at Turkey. Please don't expect us to believe in this nonsense. In terms of Armenian genocide it happened. There is a saying where I come from. When some unfortunate incident happends to someone we say 'tiste ku hat sere wi, nat sere Filan' literally meaning, 'what happened to that person did not even happen to an Armenian'. Yes Kurds were involved in the genocide. There were also honourable Kurdish leaders such as Sheik Abdul Kadir and his father Sheik Ubedullah who took out fathwas calling on Kurds not to participate in the massacre of Armenians. ALevi Kurds in Dersim region helped Armenian to flee. There is also official documents from American ambassador in Xarput (now known as Elazig) who clearly stated that there was serious danger in them helping armenians escape the Ottomans. So they were helped by Kurds in the region. He is very clear about this. Some kurds did for the money, some for opportunistic reasons and some did it because they cherished human dignity.

It seems to me that you are simply regurgitating the nonsense you have learned in Turkish schools. Also the hatred towards Armenians is blatantly obvious from your comments. I am not defending Armenian fascists, however, the existence of Armenian fascists does not in anyway imply that the genocide never happened.

[piskrt]

It seems to me that you are simply regurgitating the nonsense you have learned in Turkish schools. Also the hatred towards Armenians is blatantly obvious from your comments. I am not defending Armenian fascists, however, the existence of Armenian fascists does not in anyway imply that the genocide never happened.

You are repeating what you are thought to say. Nothing more. Brainwashed lunatic!

[Rubar]

You are repeating what you are thought to say. Nothing more. Brainwashed lunatic!

The irony simply amazes me. I rest my case.

[piskrt]

The irony simply amazes me. I rest my case

Good for you!

[Rubar]

It is nothing more than a dream. If anyone tries to invade Turkey for any claim on the Southeastern Turkey, they will find the Kurdish & Turkish soldiers killing them. If we close our southern borders, Iraqi Kurds will begin to die from hunger. And that is what "the others" want.
Then we will see photos of UN soldiers throwing food and clothes to the hungry Kurdish people. The same plot as in Afghanistan and in Africa.

I guess the 'others' you are mentioning are Imperialist powers. Thats very convenient... blame it all on those evil minded imperialist. Have you ever seriously thought about whether or not your state is an imperialist as well? Imperialism is not a monopoly of western powers you know.

- Kurdistan in the Northern Iraq
Mountains to the Kurds, deserts to the Arabs, oil to the "Western Alliance".
That is what the Iraqi people will get, nothing more. Sitting on oil deposits will bring the Iraqi Kurds no prosperity, but slavery. Tribe leaders like Barzani & Talabani, will suck and distribute all the petro-dollars to their own tribes. What will you produce ? What will you sell to the world ?

same old nonsense. You have the inability to appreciate complexities around strategic interests. Somehow to you think it is all about stilling. Coming from an Ottoman tradition I guess you are justified in thinking that is the way things work in the modern world. HOwever, since you claim to be forward thinking, let me remind you that Capitalist world system works in on different dynamics. I suggest you go do some serious reading. That is off course presuming you are capable of understanding it in the first place. But I continue to have faith in humanity.

- Iraq - Turkey relations
Turkey will always help the Iraqi people. We gave food and shelter to the Pesmerges, when Saddam made the ethnical cleansing in the Northern Iraq. I employed 2 illegal refugee pesmerges just to help them, and gave them the same wage as the Turks earn, although they were ready to work for the half of that wage. Where were the "Western Alliance" then. Who gave those WMD to Saddam ?

This is an blatant lie..... Turkey was forced to open up its borders. Period. Turkey attempted to cover up Saddams gassing of Kurds by preventing INternational experts to investigate the damage. It was you president Turgut Ozal who said that it will be a great insult to TUrkish experts if international experts came into Turkey to investigate the chemical attack. Conveniently Turkish experts found no proof whatsoever of any chemical attack.

Furtheremore, It was Kurds in the north that rose to the occasion and opened their arms to our southern brothers and sisters. Even then Turkish state prevented Kurds from helping them. From my village alone 2 truck load of supplies were sent for Kurds, however none of them ever reached kurds. instead they were sent to Turks from Bulgaria.

The Iraqi officials first come to us for technical and commercial co-operation, because they know that we are the only neighbour country, who does not have any malicious plans for Iraq.

That is another lie. There have plenty of evidence to show that Turkey intended to prevent Kurds from gaining anything. The fact that you advocate autonomy for Turkmens in Iraq yet you see Federation too much for Kurds, blatantly demonstrates your deep rooted bias against Kurds.

- Iraqi Turks
Iraqi Turks belong to the unified Iraq. Autonomy for them is not a matter of dispute. They have the right to live in peace.

What about autonomy for Kurds in the North? Don't you even feel the need to be a bit consistent? At least when one seeks a certain objective for ones own people, one should support other people demanding similar objectives.

We do not have time to lose with all the problems in the Middle East, we are a forward looking nation.

A nation that lacks any kind of critical self reflection can never go forward. Someone that does not have the courage to come to terms with its past and current problems is not capable of taking one step forward.

[Jamo]

He didn't bring peace at all! Nowhere! He was just a son of a whore who didn't who his father was. I don't know if Musto was a Turk he looks more like a Greek or Bulgarian. There are only real Turks in XingJang (China)