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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:39 am

There are of course, Turkish and Mongolian blood among Afghani. Some of them are Uzbek, pr Mongols, for example, and one of the greatest sovereign of Afghanistan, Babur, was a Turk, from the ligneage of Timur Leng. Btw, just let's see some Afghani people and you'll see Turkish or Mongolian faces easily ! Afghanistan is so ethnically mixed than Khorasan.
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PostAuthor: Marie K. » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:23 pm

Piling wrote:There are of course, Turkish and Mongolian blood among Afghani. Some of them are Uzbek, pr Mongols, for example, and one of the greatest sovereign of Afghanistan, Babur, was a Turk, from the ligneage of Timur Leng. Btw, just let's see some Afghani people and you'll see Turkish or Mongolian faces easily ! Afghanistan is so ethnically mixed than Khorasan.


yea it could have happened with some of them but moslty do they feel they are turks? no i dont think so.. they would feel closer to irani cuz the language ,the culture and so on are very closer to irani culture (they arent linked with modern turkis) even if their blood could have mixed with turks from central asian..

Anyway i really consider the tajiks for instance are our brothers..
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: zurderer » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:56 pm

are you afganistan specialist? or are you talking about your iranian dreams?


For you info, uzbeks are active at afghan politics and I think only alternative of this goverment is taliban. Both dont care(infact dislike) Iran.(Only difference is this goverment is pro-usa.)

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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Marie K. » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:25 pm

zurderer wrote:are you afganistan specialist? or are you talking about your iranian dreams?


For you info, uzbeks are active at afghan politics and I think only alternative of this goverment is taliban. Both dont care(infact dislike) Iran.(Only difference is this goverment is pro-usa.)


see this all of them were aryan before u was coming to change their original ethnicity;-)!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL23UJWouMk&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Diri » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:48 pm

Marie K. wrote:
Marie, the Hurrian (Caucasian) culture of Kurdistan was LONG before the Aryans came... The Aryans didn't realy conquer and establish themselves permanently in Kurdistan before around 2000-1000 BC... They came into Kurdistan and conquered the Caucasian Kurdish culture which was already established and practiced...

And by the way - Afghans are Pashtuns and Dari (Persians) - not Balouch... The Balouch are only a minor in the far south of Afghanistan... Their great numbers and lands are in South-East Iran and West of Pakistan...



about kurd u right, but about afghans i saw in one post u have said that some had mixture with turks,did u said that?
no maybe with some arabs but not with turks..i dont think so..


Yes I said so... And it's true... The Moghols (not Mongols directly) were lords and rulers there for decades - and other Turkish dynasties as well... They ruled Pakistan, Afghanistan and parts of India...

And Afghanistan is like Kurdistan a place where peoples have come and gone and a lot of mixing has occured during the last 3000 years...
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Diri » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:52 pm

Marie K. wrote:
Piling wrote:There are of course, Turkish and Mongolian blood among Afghani. Some of them are Uzbek, pr Mongols, for example, and one of the greatest sovereign of Afghanistan, Babur, was a Turk, from the ligneage of Timur Leng. Btw, just let's see some Afghani people and you'll see Turkish or Mongolian faces easily ! Afghanistan is so ethnically mixed than Khorasan.


yea it could have happened with some of them but moslty do they feel they are turks? no i dont think so.. they would feel closer to irani cuz the language ,the culture and so on are very closer to irani culture (they arent linked with modern turkis) even if their blood could have mixed with turks from central asian..

Anyway i really consider the tajiks for instance are our brothers..


Nobody said they feel Turkish, Marie...

It's like you don't realy know the history of the peoples you call "Aryan" even... Yes, many of them speak Dari - which is a dialect of Persian - and like the Tajik, yes they do feel closer to other Persian speakers instead of the Turks - but that doesn't change their ethnic make-up which is a mix of Turkish, Persian and Indian...

Anyway - you're speaking of people as if they were defined square boxes... But in reality, most people in this world have mixed with other people...
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:29 am

I don't think they feel themselves as "Aryans", nor "Turkish". They are Afghani Uzbek, or Mongolian, or whatever they want. Of course they have Iranian culture, but with their own background also. Turkish and Mongolian culture and histories are rich in Western Asia, and they have influenced Iran also.
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: zurderer » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:09 am

pardon me but, can you have any proof about friendship between afghanistan and iran? It is funny you are trying to build friendship from genes.:)

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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:15 pm

And building friendship from genes could means also building hostility from the same reasons. :roll:
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Marie K. » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:06 pm

Piling wrote:And building friendship from genes could means also building hostility from the same reasons. :roll:


yea right..and then whats wrong with that? i mean is it more stupid that those one who claim to build a so-called friendship from religion or from politics ideology i dont think so..

we have seen through history that it happened all the time disasters when people wanted to unite for those reasons.
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Marie K. » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:08 pm

zurderer wrote:pardon me but, can you have any proof about friendship between afghanistan and iran? It is funny you are trying to build friendship from genes.:)


its not me ask any afghan about it and ull see if not all want to build a friendship with irani there are almost a lot who speaks persian and interesting about irani culture ask them about turkish or turks some dont even know where this stupid country i mean turkey is situated..u also cant find any afghan who will want to unite with turks..(very rare;-)
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:46 pm

and why Afghanistan shoud be united with any other cutrny, Iran or Turkey ?
I think that building friendships based on common ideology, or culture, or economical interests, or even religion is more senseous than on DNA... Before chosing your friends you ask for their genealogy ?
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: zurderer » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:32 pm

Marie you are realy wasting our time with your stupid dream world..

Sorry but, neither pro-usa goverment which is now ruling at afghanistan nor older goverment(taliban) give any shit about iran. Infact as I said before your, They hate from iran. Your genetic bullshit is just bullshit.. Dont try to build a world acording to your dreams..

We have a realy world and I prefer to talk this world, not your racist dreams..

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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: BARBARROSA » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:42 pm

I am not about to list Turkey's crimes against the Kurdish people and this article is a piece of ****. :)

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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Marie K. » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:52 pm

zurderer wrote:Marie you are realy wasting our time with your stupid dream world..

Sorry but, neither pro-usa goverment which is now ruling at afghanistan nor older goverment(taliban) give any shit about iran. Infact as I said before your, They hate from iran. Your genetic bullshit is just bullshit.. Dont try to build a world acording to your dreams..

We have a realy world and I prefer to talk this world, not your racist dreams..


how about the grey wolves who are so dreaming about turan states?lol they are the most facist people in the whole word and they are really a lot who support this pathetic thing cuz maybe they know they could never enter in eu.so they try to find other friendship unions... this is revealing the facts & thkings of some poor pathetic loser..who had lost so many wars as the first one for instance..

oh its very good u had clearly confessed here that u do support usa politics, turkey people want so much to try to find anyone who will accept to unite with them...;-) of course they cant unite with their neighbour countries cuz they have killed so many of them before that almost all of their neighours people have good reasons to dislike them,


if i waste so much ur time noone has forced u to answer to me ur really of bad faith..^^
we lol u think that u can speak for the whole word cuz for u turkish= the only race on the earth

ps: about usa they only used u (i mean turkey) for economis interests nothing more...but they never have supported this state..
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