PKK in Turkey

[freedom+unity]

zurder [Edit: Bad language removed]
there you go and making shit up.
pkk has only killed Turkish people.
pkk also kills Kurdish politicians who betray the kurdishness. E.g. Kani Yilmaz
Most of the people against pkk are those who don't have a fucking clue about Kurdish history.
Many of my family are part of the pkk and I will die as a member.
Any of you [Edit: Bad language removed] can sit and type and defend the Turkish propaganda.
Being Kurdish is about defending every single Kurds.
tomjez you turkish [Edit: Bad language removed], come out with some thing that you can prove.

[zurderer]

pkk has only killed Turkish people.

Great so there is not any problem.

wait, I am turk too.

Stupid, is that how you defend PKK? PKK only killed Turkish people.is this most humanist word I ever see? After all Turkish people are not human, so killing them is normal act. If pkk only kill turkish people, It is not a problem.

It looks like you are as genious as Apo.

[Piling]

pkk also kills Kurdish politicians who betray the kurdishness. E.g. Kani Yilmaz

This is the real face of the PKK, its essence : more dangerous and harmful for Kurds than for Turks.

Killing a Turkish soldier is not murdering, this is war. But killing a political opponent is the wonderful face of Kurdish fascism.

[womanizer]

freedom+unity : you wrong bro!! please be control of your emotions.

Bro, PKK neither killing Turkish peoples nor its opponent, such thing is irrelevant, you may have misinformed. As I said before it may some individual act crime behalf PKK and the may still do..is note ays as it look…, as Turkish propaganda machine as well as other Kurdish enemy saying those kind misleading.
Consider PSK party, which has always been in northern Kurdistan and active and its older than PKK, how come PKK never target them?
What is tragedy is that a lot internal war been taken place in Kurdistan in between all poltical praty in Kurdistan which been played out by Turkey, Iran Iraq Syria.. we all know this very clearly including our parties which admitting it past mistakes
PKK is kurdistani party, it is our cause , very legitimate cause, that we defend ournation and have arm struggle when all windows of dialogue has shattered and only language of killing entire Kurdish race and extincetion is in place.. Remember . This day Turkish leaders including general saying “we have ended 27 Kurdish uprising in past we will finish this once for all”, it is very clear, and simple which they know that PKK is defender of last hope of kurdistani nation , its formation of our last 100 years struglle and they know it is last battle . they dreaming they can finish(The “fininish” word in fact apply for them as finishing kurdishness once for all)
So to all friends here, PKK is not a killer of Turks, but rather defender of his nation against Turkish and other countries such as iran., ,who their oppression regime deny very the basic of Kurdish nation right., some of very warriors guerilla and mrtyters in fact are Turks, European etc.. So please do not use such word, be control on yopur emtion.
Someone like zurerder of course enjoying such words, because his hater’s torwd PKK is simply haters towards Kurds. Today in turkey whether you are PKK or not, and you fight for your country politically or militarily you will be considered as PKK as terrorist as killer as so on. Therefore today in turkey even in Iran or Syria, PKK is symbol of Kurdish nation struggle. Please show your respect in that regards.
More importantly PKK issue is Kurdistani issue, those who targeting PKK it targeting Kurdish nation, Kurdish nation have right to critics any kurdistani political party, that is their right, but those Kurdish blood suckers and those who eyes of Kurdish nation fall, have no right to talk about PKK, if that is case then we all are PKK ,as whole 50 millions kurds. Which you simply targeting it.
So this chapter should be closed, if you talking about PKK then you talking about Kurdish nation. If any kurds like to say something about in that regards I suggest type in Kurdish and we discuss about it.

[Piling]

So this chapter should be closed, if you talking about PKK then you talking about Kurdish nation.

And what about kurds who say NO to that assertion ? Just traitors to kill like Kanî Yilmaz ?

PKK is NOT Kurdistan, Öcalan is NOT Kurdistan.

If any kurds like to say something about in that regards I suggest type in Kurdish and we discuss about it.

Temam. Bi kurdî gotûbêj bikin ! Lê ez bawer dikim ko çend "heval" bi dijwarî zimanê xwe binivîsin. Zimanê PKK "Turdish" e.

[womanizer]

@Dear Piling!!

PKK is NOT Kurdistan, Öcalan is NOT Kurdistan.

Piling!! I don’t understand your reason for so much haters!!it seem to me obvious you personaly want kurds be divided..as I told I am Pkk ,I love whole my nation and whole parties and its organizations, whatever problem we have ,..is ours..not need craet propaganda forum, while we in war…my peoples ..my country still suffering… is not right… we have we can slove our own way..
You have no right to say Ocalan or pkk is not Kurdistan!! This is realy shaking..This is insult to our nation!! I don’t know what you trying to prove…let me make it very simple for you..if you have certain problem with some indiviudla ..do not bring your haters in our struggle..this not right…
Let assume you right let say we are animals and not kurdistani..okay
As you believing yourselves as Kurdish friend..Do you really think this is in interest of kurds to have such propaganda(Ocalan not Kurdistan..PkK is not Kurdistan!!”’) and make division between Kurds,,,.. as I have told you, you like it or not PKK is kurdistani party, leave issue for Kurds to decided,
You writing PKK is not Kurdistan Etc in English,,like Turks do…??is realy sad…, then you start with word Turkish “Temam”, then start sentence of Kurdish
What is this all about it.
Piling, I know this is your forum, which you have try to advocate to Kurdish cause..but if it is turning to be anti Kurdish ..I think I have right to inform our peoples or at least to our association in Paris as well as “Institut kurde de Paris” ..this is not fright at all, as you know PKK is in France terrorist list..so you can say what you want..But we have right to know.

[Piling]

but if it is turning to be anti Kurdish ..I think I have right to inform our peoples or at least to our association in Paris as well as “Institut kurde de Paris”

Oh yeaah please... do it !

[Diri]

WHAT division Womanizer?

You know what IS dividing us???

PKK, KDP, PUK, YÊKITÎ, PDK-I, PJAK, KDC, DTP and other Kurdish parties...

Don't you understand? WE MUST THINK NATIONAL - not PARTY!!!

If everybody is gonna say "Ocalan is Kurdistan"/"Barzanî is Kurdistan"/"Telebanî is Kurdistan"/"Qazi Mohammed is Kurdistan"/"Shêx Seîd is Kurdistan" and so on and so forth... THEN WE WILL BE DIVIDED...

BECAUSE WE DISAGREE ON POLITICS!!! Don't you see that? Don't you understand that the thing Kurds have in common is KURDISTAN... Not APO or Barzani!!!! IT'S KURDISTAN! Why is that so hard to understand?

[freedom+unity]

You don’t understand.
Kani yilmaz for example was a great Kurdish politician; I met in the uk before his arrest. I stood out side court asking for his release. But he committed a sin which was turning his back on the Kurdish problem and selling him self to the enemy. This has been a big problem for Kurds through out their history. Pkk has one path and that’s to free the Kurds and any one who tries to get in their way vanishes.
Pkk has only defended their territory.
I don’t believe in war as a solution but it is the only concept that seems to work for now.
I believe diri has a good point when he says politics should not separate us, but i will not stand by while Turkish pricks call my blood line a terrosit.
All your references about the pkk are from left wing party web sites. Killing children are you insane,
Pkk did not bomb tourist places; they condemned the bombings which where carried out by our angry brothers TAK.
If I were in turkey now I would bomb you fuckers every day, for what you did to my people.
As I have said before.
Forgive your enemy, but never forget their names.
Turkish fuckers

[womanizer]

Why so hard for your peoples understand. I have said that this issue is right Kurdish nation to discus to argue about it…Not turning to propaganda circle in forums. IT is NOT in Interest Kurdish Nation to attack PKK or any other parties in such personal and hater’s way is harming our cause. It is dividing us. PKK is strong force in all part Kurdistan. Those Thugs who taking everything in their mouth, of course it is insult to millions Kurds who followers of PKK. If you lack of vision or understanding about PKK, at least show respect for sake our unity. Else you can’t be Kurd or Kurdish friend. you can be worst than enemy.

What ever party or political force we have. We as nation of course we need those political forces and leadership. We not are sheep to rule or run by ourselves…such think Is not logic in struggle in current climate…
So I argue those who care about Interest of Kurdish nation, please put your personal attacks on PKK and its leadership away. It is extremely sensitive times. Where our forces (parties. different organizations .etc.) getting you united.. There is big battle head us.

[Piling]

Kani yilmaz for example was a great Kurdish politician; I met in the uk before his arrest. I stood out side court asking for his release. But he committed a sin which was turning his back on the Kurdish problem and selling him self to the enemy.

And Öcalan who sold his own people for saving his own life, who sold his guerilla, and is the most precious collborator of MIT, Öcalan is not a traitor, only his opponents

I adore when the PKK decide who is traitor or not, while this party is ruled by a coward puppet who stated to work for Turkey and condemned Kurdish nationalism....

[womanizer]

zurderer<==>Piling!!!

tell me if i am wrong?? if anything diefferent betwen those two mentality??
i tell you there is one different and that is piling grow up in free system where you can easily open youreyes to world !!but may i am wrong!! is no longer the case..

[freedom+unity]

pilling i have ask you on several occasion not to attack my leader.
you are making crap up. your parents are more than likely are cowards and kawats.
you belong in a body bag.
its people like your self that kurdish issue still hangs in the balance.
you don't now any thing about our great leader and you are telling me what the turkish goverment is telling its people everyday.
there is no way a apochi will listen to your words.
i will work for kurdistan for 50 years and not expect a penny, and it is with this attuide that kurdistan will unite as one. cowards like pilling are street rats just like his forefathers.
betrayal of what we stand for.
lovers of peace, creaters of society.

[womanizer]

@freedom+unity
bro be respectful, first well piling is not Kurdish. her fantasy about her own Kurdish world is much like Turks !!
so what she saying ring bell a lot,
however I argue Kurds in forum to be respect full with our nation larders and political parties. It is in our interest to fight each other in forum ,because of ideology backlash.

[womanizer]

It is NOT in our interest to fight each other in forum ,because of ideology