Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

[schoolmaster1954]

Apology accepted, Cazyun...

parsi kurds dont belong to that list pleaze...balchu,persian, whatever are brothers but not with us...they hav killed and assimilated many kurds

You say that about Persians and Baloch...

Why don't you say the same about Turks? Persians never did anything close to the genocides, rapes, massacres and forced assimilation Turks did...

The Baloch never even touched a Kurd... The Baloch are like the Kurds, divided by fake borders and should be given self-determination, just like the Kurds... They are divided between three countries, we are divided between four...

Same matter...

But I don't understand you Cazyun... You boost of Turks and make them sound like angels... Yet you say Persians did far worse things against Kurds than Turks...

Truth is, if you make Turks into Angels - then the Persians are prophets... Because the Turks did and still do so much evil against Kurds... It's a shame!

Where do you live, Brother Diri?

I live and breath in Norway... And I asked you which part of Ankara you live in... I know Ankara very well... Which part are you in? I am gonna quess Ulus or Macunköy or Batikent or some other generally islamist areas...

No, I don't live in an Islamist area. I teach private Turkish lessons so I live a western area, Çankaya. There are a lot of foreigners there. I need money. Sory.

[Diri]

Where do you live, Brother Diri?

I live and breath in Norway... And I asked you which part of Ankara you live in... I know Ankara very well... Which part are you in? I am gonna quess Ulus or Macunköy or Batikent or some other generally islamist areas...

No, I don't live in an Islamist area. I teach private Turkish lessons so I live a western area, Çankaya. There are a lot of foreigners there. I need money. Sory.

Hehehe Well alright... Çankaya is a posh area... No need to be sorry - you have to make a living... Of course without compromising too many principles... Private Turkish lessons is good... Which nationality do you mostly teach?

[zurderer]

Except the Kurdish revolts of 1830, 1843... and quite all the 19th century until nowadays.

Ok lets change it a bit. Kurds were protecting ottomans more than Turks.

Turks rebelled much more than kurds.(Not only alevis)

Infact Kurds were last one who forsaken ottomans.(After Turks)

[Vladimir]

Yes - Persian was and is the official language - but Kurdish can be/could be studied at universities and schools...

You should try to support your accusations with some facts... I would be very interested in seeing facts which show that the government in Tehran organized and had an assimilation policy towards non-Persians...

Today the people who rule Iran are mostly ethnic Azeris... But for them it doesn't matter - as long as they are Shia...

Well, Kurdish cannot be studied in Iran. You can only learn Persian. Kurdish is not officially forbidden, but there is a sort of assimilation policy. Just look to the Kermanshah people. There are some Kurdish institutes in Iran and a Kurdish newspaper released by reformists.. but most Kurdish organizations are forbidden.

This article: http://www.prospektor.nl/article.asp?article_id=92, says that lot of people think Iranian government wants to erase the Kurdish identity and treates Kurds very badly. It now looks Rojhelat is ready for war.

[cazyun]

what do you say about that diri

[zurderer]

I should add every part of Ankara is ugly. Not matter, If It is çankaya or batıkent.

[schoolmaster1954]

Where do you live, Brother Diri?

I live and breath in Norway... And I asked you which part of Ankara you live in... I know Ankara very well... Which part are you in? I am gonna quess Ulus or Macunköy or Batikent or some other generally islamist areas...

No, I don't live in an Islamist area. I teach private Turkish lessons so I live a western area, Çankaya. There are a lot of foreigners there. I need money. Sory.

Hehehe Well alright... Çankaya is a posh area... No need to be sorry - you have to make a living... Of course without compromising too many principles... Private Turkish lessons is good... Which nationality do you mostly teach?

Pakistani, German, American, Nigerian... I have a muli-national class.

[schoolmaster1954]

Lot of EU countries cannot be called christian.

They have cultures based on Christianity and they identify as Christians.

[Piling]

They have cultures based on Christianity and they identify as Christians.

it is not the same thing to be originated from a Christian civilisation and to identify itself as a Christian. A lot of Europeans don't believe in Christianism. In France, only 27%, for example, believe that Jesus was Gods' son (which is the main dogma of Christianism).

[schoolmaster1954]

They have cultures based on Christianity and they identify as Christians.

it is not the same thing to be originated from a Christian civilisation and to identify itself as a Christian. A lot of Europeans don't believe in Christianism. In France, only 27%, for example, believe that Jesus was Gods' son (which is the main dogma of Christianism).

Yes, that is why Islam is the fastest developing in population in Europe. There are a lot of conversions into Islam. If we can tell Islam, European people will be muslims mostly.

[Diri]

Yes - Persian was and is the official language - but Kurdish can be/could be studied at universities and schools...

You should try to support your accusations with some facts... I would be very interested in seeing facts which show that the government in Tehran organized and had an assimilation policy towards non-Persians...

Today the people who rule Iran are mostly ethnic Azeris... But for them it doesn't matter - as long as they are Shia...

Well, Kurdish cannot be studied in Iran. You can only learn Persian. Kurdish is not officially forbidden, but there is a sort of assimilation policy. Just look to the Kermanshah people. There are some Kurdish institutes in Iran and a Kurdish newspaper released by reformists.. but most Kurdish organizations are forbidden.

This article: http://www.prospektor.nl/article.asp?article_id=92, says that lot of people think Iranian government wants to erase the Kurdish identity and treates Kurds very badly. It now looks Rojhelat is ready for war.

You can study on Iranic languages - I didn't say "you can learn Kurdish at public school" - I said: you can study Kurdish... In e.g. it's history, origins, grammatical structure and it's link with Persian and other Iranic languages...

Sure Kurds are oppressed in EVERY country which occupies Kurdistan - be it Iran, Turkey, Syria or Iraq - but what I said was: Iran is better than Turkey...

The Persians are a dominant and arrogant nation... But still they treat Kurds better than the Turks do...

Both want to assimilate Kurds... Naturally...

[Vladimir]

They have cultures based on Christianity and they identify as Christians.

it is not the same thing to be originated from a Christian civilisation and to identify itself as a Christian. A lot of Europeans don't believe in Christianism. In France, only 27%, for example, believe that Jesus was Gods' son (which is the main dogma of Christianism).

Yes, that is why Islam is the fastest developing in population in Europe. There are a lot of conversions into Islam. If we can tell Islam, European people will be muslims mostly.

Mostly conversions by muslim men marrying native women. But that was not the subject here.

[schoolmaster1954]

They have cultures based on Christianity and they identify as Christians.

it is not the same thing to be originated from a Christian civilisation and to identify itself as a Christian. A lot of Europeans don't believe in Christianism. In France, only 27%, for example, believe that Jesus was Gods' son (which is the main dogma of Christianism).

Yes, that is why Islam is the fastest developing in population in Europe. There are a lot of conversions into Islam. If we can tell Islam, European people will be muslims mostly.

Mostly conversions by muslim men marrying native women. But that was not the subject here.

Population is very important. To accept somewhere muslim country, majority of population is needed. Marriage is a good tool to manage it.

[cazyun]

europe is suposed to be christian or am not sure they christians? hmmm

many muslim peopel from midleeast has moved to europe maybe 30 years islam will be dominant religion in germany ,britain,france..lots of europeans are converting .

[Parsi]

Even if Europe becomes Muslim - who cares???

Will their culture magically turn Middle Eastern just because they've converted into Islam?

IF Islam is prevailant in Europe, they'll make their own version of Islam, a more open minded version b/c European culture is no where even NEAR the old Islamic traditions of the Middle East...