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AFP - Nationalist militants attacked a Kurdish student near Istanbul Technical University, where Kurdish students were attending spring celebrations yesterday. The attack came while Turkish police arrested five suspected Kurdish militants and seized 7.5kg (16.5lb) of plastic explosives.

Two of the suspects had apparently received training in bomb-making in camps belonging to the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), the Anatolia news agency said. Three bomb attacks shook Istanbul in late March and early April, killing one person and injuring more than 40 others. Twelve people also died in Kurdish riots in towns in the southeast of the country.

The Kurdistan Freedom Falcons (TAK) claimed responsibility. Officials believe that the PKK uses the TAK for attacks on civilian targets, but the PKK says TAK is a breakaway group over which it has no control.

Li Zanîngehên Tirkîyeyê provakasyon û êrîşên li hemberî xwendekarên kurd dom dikin.

Îro jî li Zanîngeha Teknîkî a Stenbolê xwendekarên nijadperest, ji ber ku roja bohirî xwendekarên kurd bi minasebeta şahîya biharê li hev civîya bûn, li Zanîngehê dest bi provakasyonan kirin.

Xwendekarên nijadperest bi belavok û sloganan heqaret li kurdan kirin û ji Rêvebirîya Zanîngehê, ji Zanîngehê bidurxistina xwenekarên kurd xwestin. Di heman demê de xwendekarên nijadperest ku xwe weka Ulkucuyan dan nas kirin êrîşî xwendekarên kurd kirin.Di encama şer de çar xwendekar birîndar bûn.

Weka tê zanîn li gellek Zanîngehê Tirkîyeyê di demên bohirî de xwendekarên kurd bi sebeb û hajetên cuda bûbûn armanca êrîşên nijadperestan.

These grey wolves become a serious trouble, even in Germany where they attack Kurds in schools...

I'm sorry you guys may think im a bit behind but who are the grey wolves?

ülkücü in Turkish ? In Kurdish mmm Gurgên boz ?

so fascist pan-Turanist extremists...

Piling wrote:ülkücü in Turkish ? In Kurdish mmm Gurgên boz ?

so fascist pan-Turanist extremists...

Piling... "Gurg" is not Kurdish... "Gur" is Kurdish... "Gurg" is Persian... Those Kurds who say "Gurg" have been influenced by Persian...

It is Gur...

Diri wrote:

Piling wrote:ülkücü in Turkish ? In Kurdish mmm Gurgên boz ?

so fascist pan-Turanist extremists...

Piling... "Gurg" is not Kurdish... "Gur" is Kurdish... "Gurg" is Persian... Those Kurds who say "Gurg" have been influenced by Persian...

It is Gur...

aw, thats interesting, i neva knew that.
since i'm not influenced by persians and never wanna be, i'm gonna use "Gur" from now on..
thanx for that bro

Diri wrote:

Piling wrote:ülkücü in Turkish ? In Kurdish mmm Gurgên boz ?

so fascist pan-Turanist extremists...

Piling... "Gurg" is not Kurdish... "Gur" is Kurdish... "Gurg" is Persian... Those Kurds who say "Gurg" have been influenced by Persian...

It is Gur...

Those Kurds who say "Gurg" have NOT been influenced by Persian.
it is not right to think like that ,in Rojhelat, speically in Sine , ppl use kurdish words more "Stable" ... i mean we like to use K G F.. while other kurds like to use W O instead of them.

for example I compare
In Sine : In other kurdistan
Sendigme : sendume (I bought)
girtigme : girtume (I got it)
gurg : gur (wolf)
xeftin : Xewtin (to sleep)
kêf : kêw (mountain)

it doens mean we are influneced by Persians... kurdish and persian have some Common words , and thats normal .
gurg is one of the common words between these words .(well persians say gorg , we say Gurg)
so it is the way Rojhelaty kurds say .

In fact I wonder if I have not been influenced by... soranî ! For it seems to me now that I've learnt gurg in my soranî courses... I don't know...

by the way in lurmancî, it is gur, that is right.

Grey wolf in Turkish is Boz kurt, that's how they call themselve

ülkücü means "idealist"....cause they consider themselves as idealists those fascist bastards...

dyaoko wrote:

Diri wrote:

Piling wrote:ülkücü in Turkish ? In Kurdish mmm Gurgên boz ?

so fascist pan-Turanist extremists...

Piling... "Gurg" is not Kurdish... "Gur" is Kurdish... "Gurg" is Persian... Those Kurds who say "Gurg" have been influenced by Persian...

It is Gur...

Those Kurds who say "Gurg" have NOT been influenced by Persian.
it is not right to think like that ,in Rojhelat, speically in Sine , ppl use kurdish words more "Stable" ... i mean we like to use K G F.. while other kurds like to use W O instead of them.

for example I compare
In Sine : In other kurdistan
Sendigme : sendume (I bought)
girtigme : girtume (I got it)
gurg : gur (wolf)
xeftin : Xewtin (to sleep)
kêf : kêw (mountain)

it doens mean we are influneced by Persians... kurdish and persian have some Common words , and thats normal .
gurg is one of the common words between these words .(well persians say gorg , we say Gurg)
so it is the way Rojhelaty kurds say .

Dyaoko - there is no connection whatsoever between the words you listed...

Some are verbs and some are nouns... I don't see the connection... And are those words the same in Persian? Because Gurg is Gurg/Gorg in Persian too... So are the other ones the same in Persian? Because if not, then you don't realy have an argument...

"When does the nightmare end"

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"When does the nightmare end"

VIDEO:

http://www.rojstran.com/itu09052006.wmv

I noticed that a balding man was also one of the mob which was attacking that boy, later when more people arrived to the scene he acted like he was a peacemaker.

i hate it....in the german and austrian news they always say that the pkk are terrorist and soon...the real terrorists are turks

tomjez wrote:Grey wolf in Turkish is Boz kurt, that's how they call themselve

ülkücü means "idealist"....cause they consider themselves as idealists those fascist bastards...

"ülkücü" means "nationalist", not "idealist"...

Ülke = Country/State
Ülkücü = Nationalist

Turks only know one of the two forms of nationalism. There is the "German Model" and the "French Model" - the GM is an ethnic nationalism, whereas the FM is a state nationalism - the Turks, obviously only know the French one - and consequently use the word "Ülkücü" ("Country/State supporter")... Maybe because they can oppress Kurds and say "Kurds are not a nation"...

the Turks, obviously only know the French one - and consequently use the word "Ülkücü" ("Country/State supporter")...

You're wrong. French nationalism (the same than American's) focuses on Law and State, you are citizen if you live in Franc and if you respect law and Constitution, whatever your blood could be. The German notion "Volk" concerns ethnic membership, "blood's right" : if you are German's son even borned in Russia as for German of Volga, you are German. Until recent times, even borned in Germany, as many Turks and Kurds, you was not German if your blood wasn't (of course with huge migration and UR evolution, it has changed).

It was the right of soil vs right of blood.

Turkish kemalism mixed in a sad but funny way both notions : You are a Turk by blood and then if you are not Turk by blood, you betray State and Constitution. And if you are borned in Turkey you have to be Turk (except Christians) or have not exist.

The hard job that many reformist as Baskin Oran try to do, is to change the Turkish notion of "nationality".