Roj Bash Kurdistan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_0kg8VlxkE&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1    part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGVkQtMjDk8&feature=BFa&list=SPF1EFB9C0A06AE2D2&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1    part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLxniHLkMM0&feature=BFa&list=SPF1EFB9C0A06AE2D2&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1    part 3

Some of his statements are pure bullshit

unitedkurdistan wrote:Some of his statements are pure bullshit

Feminism is completely bullshit. Womans should not fight and they should not act like a man.

Thats also one of the reasons why I dont like Öcalan, because he create this feminism in north Kurdistan.

Cewlik wrote:

unitedkurdistan wrote:Some of his statements are pure bullshit

Feminism is completely bullshit. Womans should not fight and they should not act like a man.

Thats also one of the reasons why I dont like Öcalan, because he create this feminism in north Kurdistan.

Feminism calls for women to be treated as equals with men, there is nothing wrong with it. If a women chooses to fight, then she should.

Kawe wrote:Feminism calls for women to be treated as equals with men, there is nothing wrong with it. If a women chooses to fight, then she should.

Feminism will not survive in the Kurdish society, it is against Kurdish tradition. Men and women are not the same, thats just a fact that you can not change.

Cewlik wrote:

Kawe wrote:Feminism calls for women to be treated as equals with men, there is nothing wrong with it. If a women chooses to fight, then she should.

Feminism will not survive in the Kurdish society, it is against Kurdish tradition. Men and women are not the same, thats just a fact that you can not change.

The point is that men and women should have equal opportunity. If a women chooses to become a soldier then you have absolutely no right to stop her. Obviously men and women aren't the same, but that doesn't mean we should oppress our women. Kurds and Arabs aren't the same either, does that mean the Arabs have the right to oppress us?

Kawe wrote:Obviously men and women aren't the same, but that doesn't mean we should oppress our women.

Nobody say that. I am for woman rights, but against Feminism. You support Feminism because you dont know what that is. You think feminists are just for women rights. But Feminists want to show to the womens that Men are their biggest enemies. They want to make womans to Men and Men to womens.

Just look to the PKK, they are more radical as the feminists in Europe. In the PKK schools they teach the radical form of feminisim, that dont even exist in Europe. The PKK dont allow their members to marry, everybody who marry will be killed, death penalty for marriage, it was Öcalans idea. Boys and Men in PKK camps are treated like slaves, they must make womens work like cooking and womens must make men work chop wood.

You are maybe a men who would let his mother, sister or daughter fight, but you are just a minority among the Kurdish.

I did not like the video . A complete sense of detachment by the guy who was interviewing and some really vulgar words .

Cewlik wrote:

Kawe wrote:Obviously men and women aren't the same, but that doesn't mean we should oppress our women.

Nobody say that. I am for woman rights, but against Feminism. You support Feminism because you dont know what that is. You think feminists are just for woman rights. Feminists want to show to the womans that Men are their biggest enemies. They want to make womans to Men.

Just look to the PKK, they are more radical as the feminists in Europe. The PKK dont allow their members to marry, everybody who marry will be killed, death penalty for marriage, it was Öcalans idea. Boys and Men in PKK camps are treated like slaves. And in the PKK schools they teach the radical form of feminisim, that dont even exist in Europe.

You are maybe a men who would let his mother, sister or daughter fight, but you are just a minority among the Kurdish.

My friend, you are confusing Feminism with Radical-Feminism. Feminism calls for men and women to be treated equally, Radical-Feminism calls for a society dominated by Women (which is what you are against, and what I am against). PKK's ideology is to create a society where women and men are treated equally.

The idea of not allowing PKK fighters to marry is great, since they are there to free Kurdistan, not to marry.

You're just confusing Feminism with Radical-Feminism. Feminist movements called for women to be allowed to vote, to have the same pay as men at work, to be allowed to join the military if they chose to. Any man with any sort of respect to his mother would not be against something like that.
Radical-Feminism on the other hand is just a joke, and I believe this is what you are really against.

Cewlik wrote:

unitedkurdistan wrote:Some of his statements are pure bullshit

Feminism is completely bullshit. Womans should not fight and they should not act like a man.

Thats also one of the reasons why I dont like Öcalan, because he create this feminism in north Kurdistan.

why not heval ?Nasibah bint Ka'b al-Maziniyyah, fought along side Mohemed in Uhud battle and he did not object to it . Are you saying that Mohemed encouraged Feminism too ? and it was said that he smile broadly at her courage .

I think you are just afraid to have you ass kicked by a woman

Feminisim is generally bullshit, you can say what you want, but it is just bullshit. I alredy tell you what Feminists want, you can not compare this with woman rights.

Kawe wrote:The idea of not allowing PKK fighters to marry is great, since they are there to free Kurdistan, not to marry.

Oh yes death penalty for marriage, is just great, thanks Öcalan that you give us this law. We want a Feminist society like in Europe, where the ideology of feminism comes from (sarcasm).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy0Z2j_AqVU&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

Cewlik wrote:

unitedkurdistan wrote:Some of his statements are pure bullshit

Feminism is completely bullshit. Womans should not fight and they should not act like a man.

no i cant have that

you should be ashamd of your self
how can you say that? how many brave sister put there lives on the line for the freedom of kurdistan, and thats the thanks you give them?
what have you done? sit and chit chat on a forum?
your not serious

max_b wrote:your not serious

Says the guy who is a fake. Go support feminism in the arab world, because your people need it.

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Cewlik wrote:
Just look to the PKK, they are more radical as the feminists in Europe. In the PKK schools they teach the radical form of feminisim, that dont even exist in Europe. The PKK dont allow their members to marry, everybody who marry will be killed, death penalty for marriage, it was Öcalans idea. Boys and Men in PKK camps are treated like slaves, they must make womens work like cooking and womens must make men work chop wood.

This was the case ones now it has changed with Karayilan. And I dont see the sense of marrying in the mountains when it is already clear that most of the fighters will die in a battle.