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Ethnic identity of the Kurdish Alevis

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Ethnic identity of the Kurdish Alevis

PostAuthor: Vladimir » Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:55 am

What makes t he identity of Kurdish or Zaza Alevis different with Turkish Alevis?

Are Turkish Alevis more Kemalist and [Turkish] nationalists and are Kurdish Alevis more leftist, PKK-ish, [Kurdish] nationalists?

Is there a difference between Kurdish and Turkish Alevis concerning rituals and belief?

Maybe some Turks can answer this: Are cema's still cultural foundations instead of religious ones like mosques?
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: zurderer » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:13 am

Are cema's still cultural foundations instead of religious ones like mosques?


Yes.

Is there a difference between Kurdish and Turkish Alevis concerning rituals and belief?


I have no idea about this, but I know some alevis are different than others.

Some of them even goes mosque.

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Are Turkish Alevis more Kemalist


That is also true, no idea about kurdish ones.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:26 am

mm for Kurdish alevis Cem and pîr are more than cultural institution, and pîrs influence and power are quite the same than sheikhs for sunnis.

I don't know Western alevis, but I suppose that Kurdish alevis, especially for Dersim have their ritual and cultural life influenced by Kurdish and Armenian tradition, with Turkmen's also.

For their political engagement, they are various. Kurdish alevis could be Kemalist, some are PKK some are TIKKO, etc. But in Dersim, there are a tradition of resistance or defiance against State, they don't forgot the genocide of 1937-1938.

And they have a defiance towards Kurdish and Turkish sunnis also.
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