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Re: The Anfal Campaign (Iraqi Kurdistan), 1988

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:41 pm

heval jj , its best to post articles and stuff instead of pics, supas :-D
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PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:15 pm

alan131210 wrote:heval jj , its best to post articles and stuff instead of pics, supas :-D

Sorry yes I should of posted it with the article I posted, there are thousands of more pictures man. Its just so sad.
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Re: The Anfal Campaign (Iraqi Kurdistan), 1988

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:17 pm

yes i agree :sad: , it will pay off stay assured.
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Re: The Anfal Campaign (Iraqi Kurdistan), 1988

PostAuthor: talsor » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:20 pm

alan131210 wrote:heval jj , its best to post articles and stuff instead of pics, supas :-D


can you still post the article associated with these images ?
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Re: The Anfal Campaign (Iraqi Kurdistan), 1988

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:23 pm

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alan131210 wrote:heval jj , its best to post articles and stuff instead of pics, supas :-D


can you still post the article associated with these images ?

Well to be honest there isn't one single article, I pretty much posted most of the articles. There actually alot of these photos that have not been publish on the internet, not sure why maybe personal reasons.
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Re: The Anfal Campaign (Iraqi Kurdistan), 1988

PostAuthor: talsor » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:35 pm

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alan131210 wrote:heval jj , its best to post articles and stuff instead of pics, supas :-D


can you still post the article associated with these images ?

Well to be honest there isn't one single article, I pretty much posted most of the articles. There actually alot of these photos that have not been publish on the internet, not sure why maybe personal reasons.


The thread is about Anfal campaign heval not missing faylis during Iraq -Iran war . Please keep that in mind when posting images . I understand you are a fayli nationalist which is strange to say the least . No one have a problem with faylis here , but you gotta stop imposing faylis issues in every single post even when it is not related .There is no faylis suffering and kurdish suffering . There is just kurddish suffering .

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Re: The Anfal Campaign (Iraqi Kurdistan), 1988

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:47 pm

Huh these are Kurds that got deported and the Kurds that were taken hostages and went missing, nothing to do with Iran-Iraq war. We Faylis are Kurds, so I don't see a problem putting it here. See if I put it in a different thread, you would of complained, if I put it in a same thread you still would of complained. I really don't understand you. Please tell me how I'm a fayli nationalist? You always pick on me for the sake of argument. As I clarified for the 100th time when referring to the faylis, this refers to the ones in Baghdad. They are also Kurdish. Anyways I'm not imposing my will on anyone, I'm just posting pictures. I really don't see what is wrong with that? I mean it is hpyocrisy isn't it, when you complain about people that critisize your opinion or view. Well you do the same to me. The thing is I'm not even saying or stating anything, yet you go on a rampage and start raging at me. You are also prejudging based on one word I use which is 'Fayli'. You don't see me accusing North or West Kurds of "imposing their will". I mean this is a Kurdish forum isn't it?
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Re: The Anfal Campaign (Iraqi Kurdistan), 1988

PostAuthor: talsor » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:07 pm

I'm not going to have a discussion with you heval because there are more urgent issues here . You either do not understand or simply take a stand for the sake of taking a stand . I went a head and removed the images you posted because it has nothing to do with Anfal . Feel free to post them in a separate thread .

I will also ask to remove the map in your signature and the arabic words . This is not a fayli site , it is a kurdish site . If we allow this kind of maps we will have 100 more maps to every kurdish tribes/groups which frankly encourages division rather than unity .
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Re: The Anfal Campaign (Iraqi Kurdistan), 1988

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:24 pm

talsor wrote:I'm not going to have a discussion with you heval because there are more urgent issues here . You either do not understand or simply take a stand for the sake of taking a stand . I went a head and removed the images you posted because it has nothing to do with Anfal . Feel free to post them in a separate thread .

I will also ask to remove the map in your signature and the arabic words . This is not a fayli site , it is a kurdish site . If we allow this kind of maps we will have 100 more maps to every kurdish tribes/groups which frankly encourages division rather than unity .

Your the one who brought up the discussion in the first place. What is there to understand? See you never every tell me.
Regarding the photos no they don't have anything to do with Anfal specifically, but they are part of the Kurdish genocide. The fact you have no remorse or feelings towards these victims just saddens me.
Its also funny how your anti-Arab whenever it involves me, but whenever its another members, you don't give a crap. Man your worst then Hitler. Atleast with Hitler, he wasn't a hypocrite like you.
That map doesn't state anything, it just shows where the Kurd Faylis predmonitely live. I geniunly don't see the problem since this is a Kurdish site. Please if I'm such a seperatist, name me once that I have ever talked about "faylistan". See this is the fanatsy you come up with just to create problems. You claim to be a Kurdish nationalist, but you belittle minority Kurdish groups. Anyway you can remove the pictures and my signature, it will just prove my point you are a hypocrite, because you cannot handle opposing views.

I will post them in a seperate thread.
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Re: The Anfal Campaign (Iraqi Kurdistan), 1988

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:34 pm

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dear, to be fair, that map kind of annoys me too , do you see the Soranis speakers (me one of them),hewramis or the badinis creating "their own region maps"!? that is just wrong , according to that map, all Soranis, Hawramis, Bahdinis create their own region maps to "where they live" or majority speakers, it doesnt matter where you live, Kurdistan is for all kurds, you might have other dialects move in these areas when we have our own state, so this idea is silly to say the least, i dont know why even bother creating such maps !! unless The Feyli kurds have another thing in their mind !! maybe they want an autonomy within a future kurdish state ?

i know your just one Feyli kurd, but this map can be looked at from several angles.

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Re: The Anfal Campaign (Iraqi Kurdistan), 1988

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:45 pm

alan131210 wrote:jj

dear, to be fair, that map kind of annoys me too , do you see the Soranis speakers (me one of them),hewramis or the badinis creating "their own region maps"!? that is just wrong , according to that map, all Soranis, Hawramis, Bahdinis create their own region maps to "where they live" or majority speakers, it doesnt matter where you live, Kurdistan is for all kurds, you might have other dialects move in these areas when we have our own state, so this idea is silly to say the least, i dont know why even bother creating such maps !! unless The Feyli kurds have another thing in their mind !! maybe they want an autonomy within a future kurdish state ?

i know your just one Feyli kurd, but this map can be looked at from several angles.

Brat Alan.

I will remove it since you asked so nicely. But tell me when another Kurd asks me what Kurd I am, am I meant to say "I'm not allowed to say because this guy on the internet will rage"?
I really don't see why we would want a state of our own, since we are Kurds. If you say to my dad in front of his face his not Kurdish, let me tell without sounding threatening. He'll beat the crap out of you, and out of anyone that says that. Maybe I'm brainwashed, but I never take pride in being a "fayli" as a seperate ethnicity as Kak Talsor is trying to make out. Always only a Kurd. But you should also know that Fayli isn't really a langauge group, well it is, but when I use it I refer to Kurds in Baghdad and Hawramis, Khelors, Lurs, Laks, Faylis(Ilamis). Be honest did you watch the video I posted on my channel? About Kurdi Xuwarig? Because they state the same thing, that Feyli, Khelors etc... speakers are confused whether to say they are Ilami or Khelori etc... As some areas are entirely tribe dominated, whilst some tribes are spread across. Like my tribe. See what am I meant to say? I'm Bagdadi, Ilami and Kermanshani Kurd? Frankly that is quite long.

Tell me one thing Kak Alan, why is whenever I look onto Kurdish map they never ever put Ilam as part of Kurdistan? So what exactly am I meant to think? Anyways if Heval Talsor is true to his word he will not bother me again, and if he wants to talk and discuss with me he can PM me, but I know he is an honest person.
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Re: The Anfal Campaign (Iraqi Kurdistan), 1988

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:52 pm

Ilam is 100% kurdish and should be included in a future kurdish state from EK , but the question is , do they want to join ? i am not saying they are and/or they are not but that should be left for them to decide, maybe an autonomy for the Feylis within a kurdish state? is this what they prob want? since you are a Feyli you prob know better.

just out of curiosity , can show me the map that did not include Ilam?
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Re: The Anfal Campaign (Iraqi Kurdistan), 1988

PostAuthor: talsor » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:00 pm

No more JJmuneer :
I will not let anyone desecrate the memory of Anfal by posting pictures of Iraqi soldiers who fought with saddam . No , this is a red line . Enjoy your vacation .

No more image of Iranian soldiers or Iraqi soldiers even if they are Kurds .
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:24 pm

KRG pays 100% study costs for children of Anfal & political prisoners

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ERBIL, July 26 (AKnews) - The Kurdistan Regional Government will bear 100 percent of the cost of study in colleges, public universities and community and other academic levels for children of martyrs, Anfal and political prisoners.

Anfal Minister Aram Ahmed made the announcement during a press conference.

He added that 1,350 new students have so far registered their names to benefit from the grant for the current academic year.
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Details of allotting monthly payment to chemical attack vict

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:15 pm

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ERBIL, Aug.2 (AKnews)- Some 245 people who were wounded in the chemical bombardments of the Kurdistan Region will receive a monthly payment of 400,000 IQD ($320), said Kurdistan Minister of Martyrs and Anfal Affairs.

Aram Ahmed told a press conference in Erbil today that the Council of Ministers approved the decision on July 30.

In the first stage only 245 registered wounded victims of the chemical bombardment will receive the monthly payment. The decision will be backdated so that the victims also receive such payments for March through July.

In order for the decision to cover all the wounded people in chemical attacks, the minister said in October the Ministry will issue forms and guidelines.

Ahmed added the wounded people should also submit petition, medical reports and proof of receiving continual medication so as to be visited by a professional team from the Ministry of Martyrs and Anfal Affairs and Ministry of Health.

Depending on the decision of this team the applicants will be qualified for receiving the monthly payment.
According to the minister last year there were 10,000 wounded victims of the chemical bombardments but after they received medication and treatment inside Kurdistan and abroad, currently only almost 1,100 cases are left.

This number, however, does not include those victims who are not registered with Ministry of Martyrs and Anfal Affairs or those who are living abroad, according to the minister.
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