Mostafa Barzani Had asked Israel for help ?

[dyaoko]

this is link to Radio Farda -american radio in persain-'s Interview with former Mosaad security official .

mms://realaudio.rferl.org/wma/ch21/20051203-1030frd.wma

he says , Iraqi Kurds have had connection with Mosad since 1965 . when mostafa barzani asked israel's help him aganist abdulsalam and abul rahman.

, by the way this radio farda is pretty evil about kurds ! they read every Supsectious news about kurdistsan but no news about bad things thare are happening / has happend to the kurds.
they always say news like "kurds are spy of israel"

just after this news radio farda player another news saying Federal "Kurdish" government is the most dangrous things for secuity of Turkey

*Kurdish - they avoid using kurdistan word.


they are so evil about kurds but iranian kurds .

[Diri]

That radio is a piece of shit...

In one of their broadcasts they talked about Kurds - and one guy said:

"Let nobody talk of a "Kurdish" nation - there is no such thing! We will shove METAL down their throats if they say something like that!"...

A Kurd called and said:

"We exist - we are a NATION and you have been shoving METAL down our throats for long enough - but we STILL want an independent Kurdistan!"...

[dyaoko]

no radio farda is not a pice of a shit, actualy it is my favorite radio .

it is 24 hours and it has good programs...

they are fair to iranian kurds, they made 13 Programs about Mikonous , they gave the most possible information about what happend to Mikonous .

they talked to every body ...

but it is just for iranian kurds....[actually every opposition in iran]
but they are pretty unfair about other kurds.

by the way , diri , please listen to it and tell me if you can undrestand farsi.

[Diri]

no radio farda is not a pice of a shit, actualy it is my favorite radio .

it is 24 hours and it has good programs...

they are fair to iranian kurds, they made 13 Programs about Mikonous , they gave the most possible information about what happend to Mikonous .

they talked to every body ...

but it is just for iranian kurds....[actually every opposition in iran]
but they are pretty unfair about other kurds.

by the way , diri , please listen to it and tell me if you can undrestand farsi.

LOL

Who said I couldn't understand Farsi?


And you are right about Ferda - I mixed it with the other Persian radio - Radio Sedaye Iran - which is RASCIST... Have you listened to it?

They think being Iranian is synonymous with being Persian... And in a way - that is what it is too - in reality... Even if it doesn't mean so by theory...

Anway... I think it is very sad that they feel the need to be so rascist... Why do they think it will promote their cause? It does the opposite actually...

[dyaoko]

Kurdish Leader Denies Reports of Israelis Training Kurds
http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=94237

(IsraelNN.com) Speaking to the London-based Al-Sharq Al-Awsat newspaper, a leading Iraqi Kurd denied reports in the Israeli Yediot Aharonot that Israeli firms are in Kurdistan training Kurdish security forces.

The Kurdish leader, Dr. Fuad Hussein, called the report "totally untrue," saying that if there were Israelis coming through the local airport, "their presence would not have gone unnoticed."

Yediot reported that dozens of Israelis were in Iraq for infrastructure projects, as well as under the auspices of private security firms to train Kurdish forces in counter-terrorism and weapons use. But Dr. Hussein told Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, "The Kurds do not need instructors to train them in light weapons. They have been in a state of war since 1961. Thousands know how to use all sorts of weapons, including heavy weapons."


whose words are true ? israel is in kurdistan or not ?

[Piling]

Israël had always trained peshmergas, since 1967... but both Jews and Kurds denied...

By the way if Israël would have helped Kurds more than only with course and training, by giving weapons against planes for example, perhaps Anfal would never happened...

So that training and helping had never been so important. Just logistical and strategical advices... For example I guess that now, peshmergas receive course from MOSSAD to face terrorism and street fighters, for peshmergas are fine for moutains war, but have not a great experiment of Urban war.

I would like to see a real alliance ( a dream, *sigh*) : Israël providing weapons and aviations and training Kurdish pilots... so Turkey would never be a problem, anymore...

[dyaoko]

I guess that israel's helping souterh kurds has beeen less than iranian [shah] helps.

israel has always wanted turkey more than kurds.

[Piling]

Israël wants to help all secure neighbours which does not like Arab countries. Logically they have a real alliance with Turkey (which is a member of NATO) more than Kurds, who have no state, no army...

But things could change. For Israël never forgot that Saddam sent missils and killed ppl in 1991. And it does not want an Islamic Iraq, or Baathist Iraq near to Jordania (tto dangerous for its own borders, especially because of collusion between Palestinian Hamas and Baath or Islamists).

So Kurds could be good allies for Israël : they have the same ennemies (But Turkey).

And be sure that MOSSAD is already in Kurdistan : it is a chekpoint from which they could watch Syria, Iraq, Iran...

But Kurds have to exige interesting advantages in exchange...

[dyaoko]

this israeli guy whose last name is "Safir" , said "today's kurdish automony" is just because of that helps of israel....

Safir , the former member of Mossad ,, has written a book in hebrew "I am Kurd" [title in hebrew]

in this book says Shah did the greatest betray to the kurds by the Al Jazayer Treaty ...

whatever...just after this news , radio farda...published another news...about Turkey's anger to kurdish federal government [I am sure all of the persian listeners of this american radio , sweared at kurds and loved turkey... they had told themself"aaah this Kurds are Zionist...Turks are Muslem... Kurds are severnt of Zionist ...Turkey has the right to worry...."]

*his full name is something like Elgiyezer gyde Safir...acording to radio farda , he has been mossad's agent in iran...

*the inerview been done by Mitra Farahmand .

(anybody has read his book ?)

[dyaoko]

acroding to safir, all of the helps of isarel to the kurds , was arranged with shah to make sure , it is not against iran's benefit.


by the way here is again the link to that news.... if you need it for documantion : [you can download it by a program like Flash Get or you can put that URL in your media player]
mms://realaudio.rferl.org/wma/ch21/20051203-1030frd.wma

by my idea, Israel still likes persians more than Kurds...and i think in the proper time they would sell kurds to persians.

[if you listen to their persian radio , you would see they are doing their best to TRAIN ULTRA NATIONALIST PERSIANS.... in their persian radio they encourage persian nationalism ] while they dont even have a radio in kurdish.