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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of south Kurdistan state

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:38 pm

Qonyeyi wrote:
Cewlik wrote:
Azamat wrote:What the Kurdish leadership in Southern Kurdistan should have been doing since 2003 if they claim to act in accordance to our cause, is the implementation of autarkic policies through the nationalisation of all economic units in the country and the reduction of the private sector to representing a percentage in the economy of 0,00%, opening the way for state-planned mass industrialization


Dangerous communist ideas. Even China give up this failed ideology and became to a capitalist state, and now they are a world economic power. States like Sovjet Union, Cuba, Northkorea are good examples for how dangerous communisim is.

Communists hate the policy of south Kurdistan, because Kurds have now money, because they can buy something. Communists dont like prosperity, they want a poor dictatorial regime, and that is what they call freedom and real self-determination of the people.

Instead of talking about the situation in Kurdistan, we must listen to such users, who are little kidis who think they can play president.


You do realise that a country like Cuba only has low economical welfare due to the fact that there is an illegal embargo raised upon them right? Not only from USA, but also from countries close to USA. Otherwise Cuba is a country with a lot of potential. But unfortunately, US-controlled capitalism is empovering the country.



Cuba is living in the stone ages (in the 60s to be precise). he communist ideology is doomed to fail because it gives a group of persons the legitimity to control all the people of an country without a chance of change (if this group of people start to get a dictatorial face). In Communist ideology there is no incentive to become better or develop (this is the main reason why Cuba is in the stone ages).

Imagine every people get the same Salary, a Doctor as much as a Cleaner and a engineer as much as a Taxi driver. So tell me who and why should someone go to University get further education over years to become a Doctor or engineer if at the end of the day he gets as reward the same as the Cleaner who has slept all day long in school?

Dont get me wrong of course there will be some persons who will try to become Doctor or engineers just out of ideology but I can guarantee you the number will be so low that you will face "a lack of Doctors crises". Even here in Germany were Doctors generally get better paid we still have not enough of them.


If everything goes right communism might work but you will never gain progress with this ideology. You guys are holding on a system which even Russia and China gave up. What, beside your proud ideological feelings, make you think you could accomplish and make it better as these two world powers. I still dont understand how people could grab for so long on such a ideology just doomed to fail.

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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of south Kurdistan state

PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:01 pm

I never stood up for communism if that is what you guys are trying to push over my head. I only stated that Cuba HAS to implent dictatorial measures because there is an international embargo emposed upon them which makes it impossible to live up to the standards of the people and their materialist demands.

Besides, what you saw in USSR and other countries had nothing to do with Marxism or real socialism. Look to Scandinavia if you want to find real socialism.
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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of south Kurdistan state

PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:05 pm

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Qonyeyi wrote:You do realise that a country like Cuba only has low economical welfare due to the fact that there is an illegal embargo raised upon them right? Not only from USA, but also from countries close to USA. Otherwise Cuba is a country with a lot of potential. But unfortunately, US-controlled capitalism is empovering the country.


I can understand why USA hates Communists. Its a dictatorial failed system, its like a sect with all their personality cult etc.


Have you seen the personality cult of Obama?
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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of south Kurdistan state

PostAuthor: Cewlik » Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:15 pm

Qonyeyi wrote:Have you seen the personality cult of Obama?


Yes, he must be elected and can only be a President for 8 years, thats a personality cult like in Northkorea and the Sovjet Union. :lol:

I am not a fan of the USA, but to defend radical ideologies with criticizing USA is just stupid. This other guy is also very funny, he dont like democracy because he dont want that his pilot is elected by the passengers. =))
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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of south Kurdistan state

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:52 pm

Qonyeyi wrote:I never stood up for communism if that is what you guys are trying to push over my head. I only stated that Cuba HAS to implent dictatorial measures because there is an international embargo emposed upon them which makes it impossible to live up to the standards of the people and their materialist demands.

Besides, what you saw in USSR and other countries had nothing to do with Marxism or real socialism. Look to Scandinavia if you want to find real socialism.


No no my friend you guys clearly stated Communism. There was no talk about Socialism. Socialism like in Sweden is probably one of the best ideologies.
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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of south Kurdistan state

PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:04 pm

No. Where do you see me stand up for USSR communism?
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Washington rejects proclamation of Kurdish state in Iraq's n

PostAuthor: Roytuna12 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:37 am

October 29, 2012

WASHINGTON/ERBIL, — A leading Kurdish member disclosed Monday that the US administration informed Iraq's Kurdistan region president Massoud Barzani that "alongside Turkey, the US will not support the proclamation of a Kurdish state," Saudi's Al-Sharq al-Awsat daily reported.

In a report published on Monday, it noted the US administration recommended that the Kurds should engage in dialogue with Iraqi parties and normalize relations to protect the democratic experiment in Iraq.

The unknown source added that the US had informed Barzani two weeks ago that he should not depend on US and Turkish support to form the Kurdish state,www.ekurd.net because the "US does not support moves aimed at separating from Iraq."


http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2012/10/state6590.htm
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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of south Kurdistan state

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:45 am

this is fake news, bcoz the source who spoke to the newspaper is "unknown".
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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of Kurdish state in Iraq

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:15 pm

Roytuna@ Oh look, the assyrian is trying to play tough again. Well why don't you just f*ck off, and let us do our job as Kurdistani citizens ;) Nothing, and i repeat nothing, will stop us in our path for freedom, not even the US!
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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of Kurdish state in Iraq

PostAuthor: burnsss » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:40 pm

hahah assyrian thinking we kurds will obey americans, screw you
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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of Kurdish state in Iraq

PostAuthor: Roytuna12 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:36 pm

RawandKurdistani wrote:Roytuna@ Oh look, the assyrian is trying to play tough again. Well why don't you just f*ck off, and let us do our job as Kurdistani citizens ;) Nothing, and i repeat nothing, will stop us in our path for freedom, not even the US!

I guess you can argue here or else you will be discriminated. hated.
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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of Kurdish state in Iraq

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:38 pm

Roytuna12 wrote:
RawandKurdistani wrote:Roytuna@ Oh look, the assyrian is trying to play tough again. Well why don't you just f*ck off, and let us do our job as Kurdistani citizens ;) Nothing, and i repeat nothing, will stop us in our path for freedom, not even the US!

I guess you can argue here or else you will be discriminated. hated.


Go back to your racist assyrian sites, we don't need you to fill this forum up with assyrian hate.
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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of Kurdish state in Iraq

PostAuthor: Roytuna12 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:49 pm

How do you even know that im Assyrian?
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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of Kurdish state in Iraq

PostAuthor: Roytuna12 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:49 pm

How do you even know that im Assyrian?
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Re: Washington rejects proclamation of Kurdish state in Iraq

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:56 pm

Roytuna12 wrote:How do you even know that im Assyrian?


If you were kurd, my comments would have made you angry as hell :-D
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