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PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran?

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:06 pm

I don't agree with all the points, but overall a nice article:

The PJAK’s Kurdish Guerilla forces are preparing in Iran to protect Kurdish people during wars between Iran and Israel.

There are strong possibilities that the western power and Israel will attack Iran to stop Iranian atomic bomb making. The only way to stop the war is for Iran to surrender without any condition.

Kurdish people under the leadership of PJAK are mobilizing from City of Maku in the North of Iran to the city of Shahre-Kurd in Chaharmahal and Bakhtiari south of Iran.

The Syrian scenario can be repeated for PKK and PJAK leadership. Kurdish people are on move, KCK must work harder to unit Kurdish people. The “return of the Medes” is in progress.

2800 years ago few Jewish prophets wrote, the Medes (Kurds) will revolt under pressure by occupiers. They are going to burn occupiers for good. It is based on wishes of God; no one can stop that process.

For the first time Shi’a Kurds, Sunni Kurds, Yezidi Kurds and Yarsan Kurds are united under the leadership of KCK. Kurds are joining PKK by thousand every days. PKK leadership must use that power carefully without abusing other Kurdish political parties to safeguard the Kurdish united front.

For the last fifty years, Majority of Kurdish people in South Kurdistan [Iraqi Kurdistan] supported Barzani and Talabani families. In last twenty years Barzani and Talabani families took billions of dollars in the corruption schemes. Majority of Kurdish people are not supporting them anymore. They are seeking Turkey and Iran protection. No one can protect them from angry Kurds.

PKK and KCK must be careful to not repeat Barzani and Talabani’s mistakes. Corruptions are not acceptable by Kurdish people.

Everything takes time. It took 20 years for Kurds to distance from Barzani and Talabani, and took 20 years to join PKK and KCK.

The process is going well for PKK, PYD and PJAK in Turkey, Syria and Iraq. For sure majority of Kurds in Iraq are with the majority of Kurds in Kurdistan.

Barzani and Talabani families are finished politically in Kurdistan because they are corrupt.

Kurdish people suffered for over 2500 years, how anyone can steal from them. The thieves are on the run in Kurdistan. The fire of Kurds will burn them forever.

The word of God is coming true. Medes (Kurds) are on move for the great uprising soon. They are going to burn internal and external enemies’ for sure.

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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: Bestoun » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:30 am

dafuq are they doing there? :-o :-?
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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:43 am

not sorry pkk must not interfier in EK, its KDPI and Komele and will stay that way for ever. go fight turkey you need it.
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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: kurdistanis1 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:50 am

Yah I don't see what these guys are trying to do, they're making the situation even worse for the Kurds in rojhelat. When PDK of Rojhelat and Komala will always be the main parties in the east, PJAK is giving the terrorist regime excuses to arrest innocent people. They even made a deal with iran and that is just stupid. That article read something like you would see in a North Korean newspaper. I love PKK, but they should stick to the North for now.
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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: Kawe » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:52 am

alan131210 wrote:not sorry pkk must not interfier in EK, its KDPI and Komele and will stay that way for ever. go fight turkey you need it.


Don't say things like that Heval, we are all fighting for Kurdistan.

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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:44 am

Kawe wrote:
alan131210 wrote:not sorry pkk must not interfier in EK, its KDPI and Komele and will stay that way for ever. go fight turkey you need it.


Don't say things like that Heval, we are all fighting for Kurdistan.

Heval KDPI has been started since the time of quazi mahamad they went threw hell to get 2 years autonomy for kurdistan then he was hanged he didn't run he wanted to stay with the Kurdish people to maintain autonomy. Then we have dr.qasmulo who gave the Iranian government hell no Iranian government could handle him they had to assassinate him ( at one time he had 13,000 peshmerga more than double of PKK, this is because everyone in E.Kurdistan loves KDPI). Today we see all these people being hanged they all are from KDPI, where is PJAK when this is happening. PJAK was formed in 2010 I think you can't erase 60+ years of history for a new party. E.kurds have lived with the pdki and they will die with the pdki all the leaders knew the problems of E. Kurds like it or not most of PJAK doesn't even consist of Iranian Kurds. How can they influencial, they have no leader they just look up to Ocalan. Like it or not but the best way to solve internal issues is from the people PKK must solve turkey problem KDP solves Iraq problem Iran is solved by KDPI and Syria is solved by PYD.

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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: Kawe » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:40 am

purearch72 wrote:
Kawe wrote:
alan131210 wrote:not sorry pkk must not interfier in EK, its KDPI and Komele and will stay that way for ever. go fight turkey you need it.


Don't say things like that Heval, we are all fighting for Kurdistan.

Heval KDPI has been started since the time of quazi mahamad they went threw hell to get 2 years autonomy for kurdistan then he was hanged he didn't run he wanted to stay with the Kurdish people to maintain autonomy. Then we have dr.qasmulo who gave the Iranian government hell no Iranian government could handle him they had to assassinate him ( at one time he had 13,000 peshmerga more than double of PKK, this is because everyone in E.Kurdistan loves KDPI). Today we see all these people being hanged they all are from KDPI, where is PJAK when this is happening. PJAK was formed in 2010 I think you can't erase 60+ years of history for a new party. E.kurds have lived with the pdki and they will die with the pdki all the leaders knew the problems of E. Kurds like it or not most of PJAK doesn't even consist of Iranian Kurds. How can they influencial, they have no leader they just look up to Ocalan. Like it or not but the best way to solve internal issues is from the people PKK must solve turkey problem KDP solves Iraq problem Iran is solved by KDPI and Syria is solved by PYD.


There is some misunderstanding here, I'm not pro any party, I am simply a proud Kurd that wants his people to be free.

But don't get confused. You seem to think that Komele and Democrat are the the ones that are doing all the fighting but that's not the case. They are not as active as they used to be, and had declared cease-fires long ago. To say things like "most of PJAK doesn't even consist of Iranian Kurds" is silly, because it certainly doesn't matter, and it most definitely is not true.

No party is going to solve anything alone, they have to all work together.

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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:48 am

PJAK fights for insentives and not for E.kurds rights you may not understand eastern kurdistan politics, but of you ask any Kurds from there about PJAK, they won't say they are against them but they say in the end this is KDPI's fight. We don't want Turkish Kurds risking their lives for us KDPI has a plan in place "hit and run" won't work.

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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: Kawe » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:23 am

purearch72 wrote:PJAK fights for insentives and not for E.kurds rights you may not understand eastern kurdistan politics, but of you ask any Kurds from there about PJAK, they won't say they are against them but they say in the end this is KDPI's fight. We don't want Turkish Kurds risking their lives for us KDPI has a plan in place "hit and run" won't work.


Edi bese. Besak sharm beka, magar tu Kurdi neni? Az bavar nakem ko Kurdak bejit "Turkish Kurd" yanji bejit am arikariya mirove Kurde parcheye Kurdistane ye din nakhazin. Babe min bo welat shar ker le Rojhelate da, tu chan dikari beji min az siyaseta Kurdi nizanim?

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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:33 am

Kawe wrote:
purearch72 wrote:PJAK fights for insentives and not for E.kurds rights you may not understand eastern kurdistan politics, but of you ask any Kurds from there about PJAK, they won't say they are against them but they say in the end this is KDPI's fight. We don't want Turkish Kurds risking their lives for us KDPI has a plan in place "hit and run" won't work.


Edi bese. Besak sharm beka, magar tu Kurdi neni? Az bavar nakem ko Kurdak bejit "Turkish Kurd" yanji bejit am arikariya mirove Kurde parcheye Kurdistane ye din nakhazin. Babe min bo welat shar ker le Rojhelate da, tu chan dikari beji min az siyaseta Kurdi nizanim?


I'm just trying to say if PJAK wants to help its going to have to do it under PDKI ideology as they represent the Eastern Kurds, once Eastern Kurdistan is liberated they can join in elections, but I really don't think their is a place for PKK branch in Eastern Kurdistan. By the way which party was your father peshmerga for?

Edit: Don't misinterpret what I'm saying, I mean no disrespect for PJAK fighters they are just a little late for the battle don't you think?

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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: Kawe » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:39 am

purearch72 wrote:
Kawe wrote:
purearch72 wrote:PJAK fights for insentives and not for E.kurds rights you may not understand eastern kurdistan politics, but of you ask any Kurds from there about PJAK, they won't say they are against them but they say in the end this is KDPI's fight. We don't want Turkish Kurds risking their lives for us KDPI has a plan in place "hit and run" won't work.


Edi bese. Besak sharm beka, magar tu Kurdi neni? Az bavar nakem ko Kurdak bejit "Turkish Kurd" yanji bejit am arikariya mirove Kurde parcheye Kurdistane ye din nakhazin. Babe min bo welat shar ker le Rojhelate da, tu chan dikari beji min az siyaseta Kurdi nizanim?


I'm just trying to say if PJAK wants to help its going to have to do it under PDKI ideology as they represent the Eastern Kurds, once Eastern Kurdistan is liberated they can join in elections, but I really don't think their is a place for PKK branch in Eastern Kurdistan. By the way which party was your father peshmerga for?

Edit: Don't misinterpret what I'm saying, I mean no disrespect for PJAK fighters they are just a little late for the battle don't you think?


Lets take our conversation somewhere else, we're steering away from the topic. I'll message you.

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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:45 am

RawandKurdistani wrote:
For the last fifty years, Majority of Kurdish people in South Kurdistan [Iraqi Kurdistan] supported Barzani and Talabani families. In last twenty years Barzani and Talabani families took billions of dollars in the corruption schemes. Majority of Kurdish people are not supporting them anymore. They are seeking Turkey and Iran protection. No one can protect them from angry Kurds.




Oh please 8-| RawandKurdistani is it possible that you are the author of this and presenting it just in the way as you have found it, because it goes well in line with your type of articulation. Making yourself big by throwing dirt on other parties this is not the way of "uniting". The article is contradiction in it self. eKurd must start to select better before publishing any bulls.. article written by some anonymous tards. Just ridiculous, how did Mesut Barzani lose support? What kind of "mistakes" has he done which other havent done. In fact to me it seems that Barzani is gaining more and more support among Kurds throughout all parts of Kurdistan.
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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:51 am

purearch72 wrote:PJAK fights for insentives and not for E.kurds rights you may not understand eastern kurdistan politics, but of you ask any Kurds from there about PJAK, they won't say they are against them but they say in the end this is KDPI's fight. We don't want Turkish Kurds risking their lives for us KDPI has a plan in place "hit and run" won't work.



dont dare to call us "Turkish Kurds" ever again. Kurdistan no matter which part, is the matter of all Kurds. You seem also to be the only one talking about "Iraqi, Iranian and Turkeys" isssue. If PEJAK wants to join the fight they can but they shouldnt try to get to the top by throwing dirt on the other Kurdish parties but at the same time praise unity while they are not that long active in Eastern Kurdistan parts as KDPI.

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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:01 am

Kurdistano wrote:
RawandKurdistani wrote:
For the last fifty years, Majority of Kurdish people in South Kurdistan [Iraqi Kurdistan] supported Barzani and Talabani families. In last twenty years Barzani and Talabani families took billions of dollars in the corruption schemes. Majority of Kurdish people are not supporting them anymore. They are seeking Turkey and Iran protection. No one can protect them from angry Kurds.




Oh please 8-| RawandKurdistani is it possible that you are the author of this and presenting it just in the way as you have found it, because it goes well in line with your type of articulation. Making yourself big by throwing dirt on other parties this is not the way of "uniting". The article is contradiction in it self. eKurd must start to select better before publishing any bulls.. article written by some anonymous tards. Just ridiculous, how did Mesut Barzani lose support? What kind of "mistakes" has he done which other havent done. In fact to me it seems that Barzani is gaining more and more support among Kurds throughout all parts of Kurdistan.


Did you just call me a liar? This article was written by Hamma Mirwaisi, here's the link: http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/mi ... urd892.htm
Besides, why should i insult Barzani, i have the greatest respect for him and his family. And also i would have used the name east Kurdistan, not Iran :-D
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Re: PJAK’s Guerrillas are on Mount Dalaho in Kermanshah-Iran

PostAuthor: unitedkurdistan » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:30 am

purearch72 wrote:PJAK fights for insentives and not for E.kurds rights you may not understand eastern kurdistan politics, but of you ask any Kurds from there about PJAK, they won't say they are against them but they say in the end this is KDPI's fight. We don't want Turkish Kurds risking their lives for us KDPI has a plan in place "hit and run" won't work.


Bro ALL the PJAK fighters are kurds from Rojhelat not Bakur, however I belive most of them are Kurmanc speaking freedom fighters from the more northern parts of Rojhelat. But they do also have kurds from the central, southern parts of Rojhelat aswell. PDKI/Komala are the best option but it's always good to have different options for the people to choose from.
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