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3 Kurdish women shot inside the Kurdish Institute of Paris

PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:55 am

NOT KURDISH INSTITUTE, INFORMATION CENTER OF KURDISTAN ASSHOLES OF JOURNALISTS !

They even published pics of our Institute and I was awake since 3 hours by ppl who call me ' Are you dead ?'

http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/mi ... ey4407.htm

Bodies found early Thursday morning outside the Kurdish Institute, according to reports in French media.

January 10, 2013

PARIS,— Three Kurdish women were found killed with a gunshot to the head early Thursday inside the Kurdish Institute of Paris (Institut kurde de Paris), a police source told AFP.

The bodies of the women were found shortly before 2:00 am (0100 GMT) inside the building in the 10th arrondissement of the French capital.

"The scene leads one to think of an execution, but the investigation will determine the exact circumstances," the source said.

Sakine Cansız, Fidan Doğan and Leyla Söylemez were shot in their heads and discovered dead in Rue Lafayette avenue at 2 a.m. in the Thursday morning. The three Kurd woman believed to have links with the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party PKK, Turkish Today Zaman reported.

One of the women was 32-year-old Fidan Dogan who worked in the institute's information center, according to its director, Leon Edart.

The identities of the other two women, who were reportedly Kurdish activists but did not work at the Institute,www.ekurd.net were not immediately available.

The three were last seen mid-day on Wednesday at the center, which was found locked by late afternoon, according to Edart.

Since it was established in 1984, the PKK has been fighting the Turkish state, which still denies the constitutional existence of Kurds, to establish a Kurdish state in the south east of the country. By 2012, more than 45,000 PKK and Turkish soldiers have since been killed.

The PKK demanded Turkey's recognition of the Kurds' identity in its constitution and of their language as a native language along with Turkish in the country's Kurdish region, the party also demanded an end to ethnic discrimination in Turkish laws and constitution against Kurds, ranting them full political freedoms. Turkey refuses to recognize its Kurdish population as a distinct minority and still denies the constitutional existence of Kurds.

Copyright ©, respective author or news agency, AFP | Ekurd.net | Agencies


Centre d'Information du Kurdistan is the Office of Public relations and Press of the PKK. I know the place. it is a small flat (3 rooms) at the 2nd floor I believe to remember, in which you can't open as in a public place : There is inside a glass door and an intercome and then you climb up to the place and then you have to ring on the door and they open to you.

So the women knew their murderers or at least have let them enter.
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PostAuthor: Fire » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:27 pm

We all know Kerdogan is behind all these things. He gave the instruction for these things. I guess he made a deal with Hollande. This action should finally show PKK that the Turks are deceithful ugly people. Unbelievable how they try to influence the Kurds with gently words at the last couple of days and talk with Öcalan but they show once again their true face. I'm sure PKK will give the answer for this. No doubt.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:43 pm

I guess he made a deal with Hollande.


Loool… =))

It might be also an action of Turks or Kurds who are against the agreement AKP/Öcalan. But I would not see the hand of Erdogan, more a secret movement like Ergenekon.

It could be also a warning in the aim to threaten some political factions within the PKK. What we can be sure is that the victims did know their murderers or at least they did trust them and let them enter. As I told, you can't enter in the CIK if ppl don't open to you from inside.
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Re: 3 Kurdish women shot inside the Kurdish Institute of Par

PostAuthor: Zert » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:46 pm

We don't know who's done it yet, as Piling said, it might even have been someone they knew.
Regardless, this is really fucked up, may they rest in peace. I once had dinner in a restaurant on the same table as the woman in the middle, makes you realize how small a world this is. :(
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PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:58 pm

Piling wrote:
I guess he made a deal with Hollande.


Loool… =))

It might be also an action of Turks or Kurds who are against the agreement AKP/Öcalan. But I would not see the hand of Erdogan, more a secret movement like Ergenekon.

It could be also a warning in the aim to threaten some political factions within the PKK. What we can be sure is that the victims did know their murderers or at least they did trust them and let them enter. As I told, you can't enter in the CIK if ppl don't open to you from inside.


How fast you are to portray it as someone from inside, huh dear Pilling?

Or it could be someone who identified himself as a police, an agent, someone from the secret service whatever. Why the rush to portray the killers as someone from inside (PKK)? Show a little decency. Jeez.
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Re: 3 Kurdish women shot inside the Kurdish Institute of Par

PostAuthor: Fire » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:58 pm

Piling wrote:
I guess he made a deal with Hollande.


Loool… =))

It might be also an action of Turks or Kurds who are against the agreement AKP/Öcalan. But I would not see the hand of Erdogan, more a secret movement like Ergenekon.

It could be also a warning in the aim to threaten some political factions within the PKK. What we can be sure is that the victims did know their murderers or at least they did trust them and let them enter. As I told, you can't enter in the CIK if ppl don't open to you from inside.


Lol, it isn't a big deal to let these people enter and trust them. People like Fidal Dogan are people without any ulterior motives. Any Bozkurt can masquerade themself as a PKK man. That's not a big Thing. And I think you should better research the bloody history of Turkey. Turkey is a mastercountry of doing these things. I bet and I'm sure that Erdogan and AKP are behind this. Like they killed Hrant Dink. There is a big theory going on that Öcalan didn't say the things to Ahmed Türk which the racist Turks wanted to hear, like disarming of PKK and so on. As a result of that the Turks show once again their real face. And btw. Concerning Hollande. I agree, it's speculating but it would be not a new thing that after the Meeting of Erdogan with a president of another Country suddenly at the next day the Police attack Kurdish cultural Centers and Arrest Kurds. In Germany these things happen for 20 years. But ok, like I said. That with Hollande is very speculating but I'm definitely sure that Erdogan is behind this.
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Re: 3 Kurdish women shot inside the Kurdish Institute of Par

PostAuthor: Anthea » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:11 pm

I am ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED that you are alive and well :ymhug: :x

BUT extremely WORRIED that you might be a future target :shock:

PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF

There are similar organisations connect to the PKK in almost all countries, there is one in London run by a friend of mine. I have been thinking of joining them but prefer to try and open a more independent centre :D

Whoever is doing this I am sure that it is well planned and probably NOT just an isolated event.

When I was involved with a Kurdish community centre we had several Turkish spies. I was warned by the party that there would be at least 2 or 3 spies in the centre. Ones that I found were some of the most helpful. In England Kurds cannot trust anyone :((
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Re: 3 Kurdish women shot inside the Kurdish Institute of Par

PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:12 pm

More details :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20968375

Apparently the murderer took the keys and locked behind himself. I am sure he knew the place very well.
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PostAuthor: Fire » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:14 pm

Anthea wrote:I am ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED that you are alive and well :ymhug: :x

BUT extremely WORRIED that you might be a future target :
shock:

PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF

There are similar organisations connect to the PKK in almost all countries, there is one in London run by a friend of mine. I have been thinking of joining them but prefer to try and open a more independent centre :D

Whoever is doing this I am sure that it is well planned and probably NOT just an isolated event.

When I was involved with a Kurdish community centre we had several Turkish spies. I was warned by the party that there would be at least 2 or 3 spies in the centre. Ones that I found were some of the most helpful. In England Kurds cannot trust anyone :((


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Re: 3 Kurdish women shot inside the Kurdish Institute of Par

PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:18 pm

It seems like a message or a warning. I think that Sakine Cansiz was the main target, she was the most important representative and was closed to Öcalan. Figan Dogan (Rojbin) worked for the CIK where they are not so important people, their main work is information. The youngest Leyla was nothing, just a member of Youth Organization, she was executed because she was there.
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Re: 3 Kurdish women shot inside the Kurdish Institute of Par

PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:27 pm

http://en.firatnews.com/index.php?rupel ... UA.twitter

Details about the victims. Obviously Sakine Cansiz was the main target and as she was not in France since and for a long time, the murder was prepared before by people who knew very well her moves.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:28 pm

Now I have 2 TV team from 2 different Channels in my Library… sigh…
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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:41 pm

How fast you are to portray it as someone from inside, huh dear Pilling?
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Because I know very well the office and no one can enter without someone from inside open to foreign ppl. And also the killer closed the door (with the key) after. So he knew the place very well.

Then there are 2 possibilities : the killer came with the victims in the CIK and there shot them. Or he rang to the door, talked to the income and they let him/her enter.

Sakine Cansiz was not a newbie. If she did trust the visitor probably she knew him or her.
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Re: 3 Kurdish women shot inside the Kurdish Institute of Par

PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:41 pm

omg...stupid journlists, I am glad it was not kurdish institute of paris...
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PostAuthor: thesunchild » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:53 pm

That’s why I don’t like French people and see them as enemies of Kurdish race. French intelligent services should prevent this kind of assassination.
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