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Assyrian Poppulation around 1915-1916

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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:19 pm

Sympathy for a Kurdish state is NOTHING if you don't understand WHYYYYYY we deserve it...


Didn´t Assyrians also deserve an Assyrian State?????

According to YOU - there was no ASSYRIAN GENOCIDE - it was a CHRISTIAN GENOCIDE... So your people was NEVER GENOCIDED, EITHER!


You didnt understand how i meant it i was saying they were cleansing the Christan poppulation out of the Turkish State so automaticlyy genoziding Armenians,Assyrians and Greece people. do you understand it now???

You are acting VERY EGO-CENTRIC now... That is YOUR fault... You are whining about "Assyrian Genocide" (according to you it doesn't exist) while you don't understand that Kurds have suffered for 80 years - and Assyrians suffered for 15 years... Can you compare?


Do you know how much the Assyrian poppulation start to shring as the Islam came??? That is not 15 years my dear friend Diri that are over 1300 years!

Don't be silly... Our freedom is YOUR freedom... 5 Assyrians in the KURDISTAN REGIONAL GOVERNMENT... ISHTAR TV WITH KURDISTAN REGIONAL GOVERNMENT...

THE PRIME MINISTER OF KURDISTAN REGION IS AN ASSYRIAN - WHEN NÊCHÎRWAN BARZANÎ IS NOT IN KURDISTAN...



Your freedom is our freedom lets see how the future will look that you just can find out with beeing patient. This 5 Assyrians are in the KRG just like a TV and the Remoter is the Kurdish leader so if he want something he put it on if he dont want something he let it closed. They have nothing to say just sitting there getting money put into their asses and acting like marionets.

Who is Nechirwan Barzani? a brother of Massoud Barzani? Never heard about this Prime Minister.


You have to read a lot of books concerning Anfal... For Baathists wanted to eliminate all non-Arab population in the country. So they asked to Chrsitians and Turkmens to sign a paper telling that they were Arabs. And they refused and had been eliminated like Kurds. And a lot of churches had been destroyed by Iraqi soldiers... If you are so concerned about that country, your parties and associations had never informed you about the Anfal for Christians in Kurdistan ??? You want to seize this country and you don't know enven the recent history of your "compatriots" ?


Yes so you see you cant say it was only against the kurds like Diri is sayinig it. By the way now i know why so many Cahtholic(chaldea) Assyrians have in their paper Arab. So you see assyrians were forced to be Arabs and you guys say they had a better life under bathits(christians) well that was because we are not a Nation who takes weaopon and kill we wouldnt have no chance because no ass careas about us. The Kurds are suppourt since 30 years by the Israelis Mossads.

I dont want to size it just you shouldnt make an Assyrian City as a City of Kurds who was always a kurdish city that is hmm stealing and ignoring History. Why should i read Kurdish History if you ignore Assyrians???

Kurds had never asked to Assyrians to state they are Kurds... and as Diri said they have more POLITICAL rights in Kurdistan than in the rest of Iras and even all the world



Who said that Assyrians called theirself kurd under Saddam Hussein there were only Arab(my ally) or Kurd(my enemy) they didnt want to hear something of Assyrians because they know Parts of Iraq is historical Assyrians and they fought against that that we couldnt make our rights count.


OH MAN YOU GUYS ARE SO .......... YOUR SO BLIND ONLY IN YOUR EYES KURDISTAN KURDISTANS YOU ALWAYS SAY KURDS SUFFERD THAT AND THAT WELL YOU KNOW KURDS DID ALLOT TO OTHER NATION WHO HAD TO SUFFER.


AND WHAT I HAVE TO SAY I AM NOT HATING KURDS NO THE OPPISITE I LIKE THEM I LIKE EVERY HUMAN BEEING.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:54 pm

:lol: Hahahahahahaha! :lol:



You are contradicting yourself... If you want to play good Christian - you shouldn't care about getting a state... You should just care about having your human rights... Like you do in South Kurdistan... :wink:


Nêchîrwan Barzanî is son of Êdrîs Barzanî - who was killed under "Operation Iraqi Freedom 2003" - when his convoy was bombed by American war planes...

Kurds have suffered more in 100 years than Assyrians have done in 1300 years... You always bring up that you would be so many if you weren't massacred - but don't you think there would be MANY more Kurds in Kurdistan if 10 million + Kurds hadn't been killed in 80 years?

I have sympathy for Assyria - I have showed my support - because I support a state within Iraq for them... If you want to see how it looks - log on the MEIC and read my Signature...

I don't see the point in this discussion...

If you won't appreciate 5 ministers, one Deputy Prime Minister, one TV channel (pluss weekly broadcasts on Kurdistan TV) and many other privilages... You don't want peace and you don't want human rights... If you aren't happy with what you got - you want to destroy Kurdistan...

You want Assyria from ÛRMÎ to BITLÎS to AMED to AFRÎN to BAGHDAD to ÛRMÎ... YOU WANT TOO MUCH!
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:10 pm

You are contradicting yourself... If you want to play good Christian - you shouldn't care about getting a state... You should just care about having your human rights... Like you do in South Kurdistan...


Hmmm your opinon ok. For sure i care about getting a own state beacuse only there Assyrians can live free(beside the western countries). Well you can also then only care about having your human rights you dont need a kurdish state.
Nêchîrwan Barzanî is son of Êdrîs Barzanî - who was killed under "Operation Iraqi Freedom 2003" - when his convoy was bombed by American war planes...


Never heard about him.

Kurds have suffered more in 100 years than Assyrians have done in 1300 years... You always bring up that you would be so many if you weren't massacred - but don't you think there would be MANY more Kurds in Kurdistan if 10 million + Kurds hadn't been killed in 80 years?


If you think its your thing. When were there 10 million Kurds killed? You know that within Kurds there are many assimilated Assyrians so there wernt only Kurds killed.

I have sympathy for Assyria - I have showed my support - because I support a state within Iraq for them... If you want to see how it looks - log on the MEIC and read my Signature...


I know and that for i respect you alot. I am fine with that kind of Assyria no doubt about it finally we would have our Assyria. But you dont understand my point if i aruge about Arbil. You make it as Kurdish City by history but its not its an Assyrians one.

I don't see the point in this discussion...

If you won't appreciate 5 ministers, one Deputy Prime Minister, one TV channel (pluss weekly broadcasts on Kurdistan TV) and many other privilages... You don't want peace and you don't want human rights... If you aren't happy with what you got - you want to destroy Kurdistan...


Your insulting me by saying that. I am not against human rights. I love to see every human live in peace and if it can be in an own state for themselves.

I wouldnt never destroy a Kurdistan man your words make me really sad if i just think about how we used to talk to eachother before well your opinon.

Ill stop to talk about what is Assyria or what is Kurdistan i think it will just bring more hate between Assyrians and Kurds and hate is not the right way.



You want Assyria from ÛRMÎ to BITLÎS to AMED to AFRÎN to BAGHDAD to ÛRMÎ... YOU WANT TOO MUCH!

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:51 pm

No... You misunderstood me... I wasn't talking about YOU - I am talking about PEOPLE in general... Because YOU say you are Christian - and you say being Christian you just want the best for everybody... That is why I said then it should be okey for you to have JUST HUMAN RIGHTS and not a state...

I NEVER said just "because I am MUSLIM that I want... blablabla"... I don't mix my religion with my life... And I definetly don't mix it with politics...

I want to tell you this - I have no hard feelings for you... And the long discussions you and I have had before - I still stand on what I said... And I do wish to see an independent Assyria... It will come - don't worry - but be REALISTIC...

You saw my map in my signature? You see how SMALL Kurdistan is in those maps? That is because I am realistic - I won't make a HUGGGGGGEEE Kurdistan - which would be in my dreams... I want to have a realistic view on what IS possible... :wink:
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:31 pm

Yes i know what you mean its ok. And i am realistic too.
I know we wont have that Assyria we want to have and that is ok finally i am fine with an Assyrian State sourrounding Mousl and the weastern parts of Nineveh.

But i hope you understand why i argue on Arbil and Kirkuk. Its no so dramaticly if it will fall under a Kurdish State(but we should share the goods) just dont try to change the History of them. Thanks.


I AM REALISTIC :wink:

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