Thanks missindependent for warm welcome.

[poppy]

Thank you missindependent for the welcome to the site, I guess I am not very popular. As I did not get any replies in every thing I talked about. I hope I have not come across as non-trusting I was unlucky with my x. I am with a new Kurd now been seeing him past 8 months, but sadly I lost his baby 3 months ago I had a miscarriage. I get a bit emotional when I talk about Kurdish (boys)(men) I just thought I would mention In England we sort of think when males are under 21 years old, we call them boys. After 26 years old I call them men. Any way great site. Poppy.

[dyaoko]

hey poppy, you are not unpopular ! thanks for sharing your story with us,it is nice , by the way, has your intrest in kurdish boys , helpt you learn any kurdish language or learn anything about kurdish politic ? or it doesnt matter for you ?
hope you enjoy your stay on the forum.

just something , have you seen that "PostReply" Botton at the end of each topic [at left bottom] you can always reply to the peopel's posts by that [instead of starting a new topic] or you can click on Qoute Botton , to reply one's post with qouting him/her.

[Diri]

Thank you missindependent for the welcome to the site, I guess I am not very popular. As I did not get any replies in every thing I talked about. I hope I have not come across as non-trusting I was unlucky with my x. I am with a new Kurd now been seeing him past 8 months, but sadly I lost his baby 3 months ago I had a miscarriage. I get a bit emotional when I talk about Kurdish (boys)(men) I just thought I would mention In England we sort of think when males are under 21 years old, we call them boys. After 26 years old I call them men. Any way great site. Poppy.

Welcome Poppy... You are most welcome here...

But your post is in the wrong section of the forums - it should be in: Introduce yourself - that way, you would get a LOT more attention - because everybody here LOVES fresh meat! Hahaha

Anyway - welcome here....

And there are plenty of chances to talk to other British and European girls about their experiences with Kurdish guys...

We have Italian here too... =) She is lovely... She has had some negative experiences too!

You wouldn't happen to be from Manchester, would you Poppy?


Again: Welcome - and enjoy your stay...

Oh - and Dyaoko is right... You can just click on the "Post Reply" button at the bottom left hand... Or if you wanna quote what somebody else has said - click the "Quote" button in the upper right hand corner of their post!

[UE_kurdophile]

Oh no Poppy don't say that! I wanted to welcome you,but in this period I am very busy!!
I am Italian( I guess i am the "lovely" one,thanks Diri)and I can understand you very well, really very well.

I read you have nw a Kurdish bf and are happy, wow, great!
I guess it is not one of the group i met in UK...they were all the time complaining,so boring!they never stopped!!!you would have run away!!
And the reasons ? for example because everywhere they went(kebab, pub, ...) they found English girls asking them to ...sleep together. They were VERY angry!!!!

[poppy]

Sorry about where I am putting my replies and messages, I am just starting to understand how this message board works, I am a member in another message board that is different to this. Thanks for telling me. I am trying to get my new Iran Kurdish boy friend to come on this site and speak to you, Would you prefer him to write in English or farsi, or sorani.
Ue kurdophile are you from Italy nice country, hello to you, have you had bad experiences like me, could you explain what you mean about sleeping together, Are you saying that English girls are to easy to get to bed, or Kurdish men are only after sleeping with girls, and having a kebab and not much else I am confused??? Could you tell me if to believe Kurdish men when they ask you to marry them, do they love you, or are they using you for there purpose in remaining in England, and if you do marry for love, will they stay with you, or leave you after 2 years. I have so much to learn about the Kurdish behaviour, as I do not want to get hurt again, i do love these kurdish people, i am so confused so much. Poppy.

[UE_kurdophile]

Hey Poppy,too many questions!! It is better if I send you a PM,which I will do as soon as I can, I promise( but i have 2 exams to prepare now,so please be patient)

But please before your bf reads this forum,delete your sentence where you ask me if you can trust him, I guess it doesn't sound very nice for him!

Sorry,I can't tell you if you can trust him or not. In the last years I have met over 100 Kurds (men,women,teenagers...) from Northern/Southern/Eatern/Western Kurdistan (= from Turkey,Iraq,Iran and Syria) and of course I have come across good and bad people, honest and liers,...I cant generalize!
Yes, it is true some would do anything to stay here in Europe, but this doesn't mean they never feel deep and true love torward any European girl! (I split up with my ex in Oct 2002 and then in June 2003 for my birhday he sent me a beautiful birthday card and even a gloden necklace with a heart just to say "i love you anyway,even if we will never see each other anymore":in this case you can easily see he didnt tell me I love you to get my nationality!! )
But yes, I know some others looking for a wedding with a European woman/girl only for that. But if he is your bf,you must know his feelings,if he really loves you or not! Don't you?

You will get the rest as soon as I can,ok?

PS When I mentioned the group I met in GB, I ment that they were silly, complaining and over-reacting for everyhing !
So for example even if they were with their own friends in a kebab-restaurant or in a pub and an English girl came to chat them up with the clear intention to sleep wih them (I guess some of these girls were drunk or something), they got so angry that then they complained for hours with me(why me?I am not even English)!
But if they went to a pub and no English girl looked at them, they ran to me complaining that everyone in GB is racist and that everybody hates them ! They were a bit confused sometimes.

[Fortuna]

Poppy, i replied to you on another thread, please stick around as this site is good and full of info.

I have been so busy trying to sort my head out, because once you get involved with anyone from another culture, its hard as you know, and it takes alot of patients and understanding, but whats meant to be will be.

I was very much like you, i found it hard to trust, because always at the back of your mind your thinking, is this guy with me for sex? visa? money or what? and sometimes us girls find it hard to beleive that they are with us because they might like us

[poppy]

Thank you Fortuna for your kind and thoughtful words, and to every one else for your advice and knowledge. It is nice to know I am not the only one.



I have got my boyfriend to come and say a few words to you.

salam mn nawm adl hawramia la baritaniawa am wshanam anusm hiwa darm la har shwnki jihan han ba zmani shirini kurdi qsa akan hiwa darm sar bulnd
Bn .zor sopas.



Does any one know if there is an Internet sight that I can log on to, to find an Iran calendar that can translate to English so I can understand it? Because the English calendar is so different to understand for Kurdish people as well, as they get so confused when their month and date of birth is. Why is this? Poppy.

[Diri]

Thank you Fortuna for your kind and thoughtful words, and to every one else for your advice and knowledge. It is nice to know I am not the only one.



I have got my boyfriend to come and say a few words to you.

salam mn nawm adl hawramia la baritaniawa am wshanam anusm hiwa darm la har shwnki jihan han ba zmani shirini kurdi qsa akan hiwa darm sar bulnd
Bn .zor sopas.



Does any one know if there is an Internet sight that I can log on to, to find an Iran calendar that can translate to English so I can understand it? Because the English calendar is so different to understand for Kurdish people as well, as they get so confused when their month and date of birth is. Why is this? Poppy.

Ser chawan Adil Hewramî!

Thanks Poppy... And you are very welcome - it's nice being of help to others...

I am sorry to say I can't help you with that Iranian calender... Dyaoko - perhaps, has some suggestions...

[poppy]

I will not be coming to this message board no more. It upsets me to much, I am so sorry if I will offend a few people, sorry to other Kurdish guys that read this, but I have to warn other girls not to believe every thing these guys tell you. I have finally finished with my Iran boyfriend because I could not take no more again, that is two Kurdish guys I wished I had never met. One Iraq, one Iran. I am now very ill in the games that they played, while I was losing our baby at 3 months he was enjoying himself watching dirty DVDs secretly at his flat, and lieing to me they were not his, when they were in his DVD player, how did they get there. He told me he never had much money like a fool I gave him food and clothes, wine, beer, I let him stay 2 nights a week with me at my house for 8 months, he was using me. I have just found out this week he has a few thousands in the bank, from other jobs, he is working in a factory now getting 3 hundred and 50 pounds a week, sending money back home to his family and his young son but he would not give me five pound, how does that make me feel. I did not know his true age even. I am sorry to tell people these things but I have no hope in believing any one again. I have no trust. The only thing I did wrong was to love these two Kurdish guys with all my heart and fall for their sweet talk, that I was blind to there plan to use me for every thing they could get. I hope no one has to go through this. Thank you to the kind girls that replied to me. The words I asked him to write to this message board he would not even tell me what he wrote why would he do this to me. Poppy.

[missIndependent]

I will not be coming to this message board no more. It upsets me to much, I am so sorry if I will offend a few people, sorry to other Kurdish guys that read this, but I have to warn other girls not to believe every thing these guys tell you. I have finally finished with my Iran boyfriend because I could not take no more again, that is two Kurdish guys I wished I had never met. One Iraq, one Iran. I am now very ill in the games that they played, while I was losing our baby at 3 months he was enjoying himself watching dirty DVDs secretly at his flat, and lieing to me they were not his, when they were in his DVD player, how did they get there. He told me he never had much money like a fool I gave him food and clothes, wine, beer, I let him stay 2 nights a week with me at my house for 8 months, he was using me. I have just found out this week he has a few thousands in the bank, from other jobs, he is working in a factory now getting 3 hundred and 50 pounds a week, sending money back home to his family and his young son but he would not give me five pound, how does that make me feel. I did not know his true age even. I am sorry to tell people these things but I have no hope in believing any one again. I have no trust. The only thing I did wrong was to love these two Kurdish guys with all my heart and fall for their sweet talk, that I was blind to there plan to use me for every thing they could get. I hope no one has to go through this. Thank you to the kind girls that replied to me. The words I asked him to write to this message board he would not even tell me what he wrote why would he do this to me. Poppy.

aw, sweet poppy, im so sorry for whats happened! i am speechless, but my tears rolling down my cheeks explaining how im feeling. i am so so so sorry babe. n im sorry that in my very first post, i told u that u need to trust him b4 anything, i didnt know hz sucha jerk, sucha luza, stupid dumb-ass, bastard. but sweetness, look at it in a good way, first of all, im so sorry to say this, but i am glad that u lost his babe, im sorry again, i know u felt being a mom, i dont know how does it feel, but im sure its a strong feeling, but if i was u, i'd be more than happy for losing this bastard's child, as its better not to have it cuz otherwise, he/she would had to carry on with havin a daddy like him for the rest of his life!
n also, thats good that u know the fact now, so, the damage wont be more, i know the damage is already been done, but tho i dont really know u, but im sure ur a strong girl n can get over it, as u promised urself not to trust every word these guys saying!
u know, im not trying to explain his behavior towards you, cuz its something that understanding it is still kinda hard for me, but just to let u know, n tell u not to generalize what he did, i know its hard, but that kinda bastards r found in every nation.. n maybe the number is alot higher in single kurds migrated to other countries after a certain age. u know, when i see looser like that, i just try to imagine how has their life been, cuz if u think about it deep inside, u'll see, that all these is cuz of their lake of knowledge, n also probably cuz of the hard childhood they've had! again im not trying to blame this unforgivable acts on bad memories from childhood or not having anyone to love em, but still, it is a big reason i guess! those sort of ppl never been loved by anyone, thats why they cant love n let be loved! again, im sorry for whats happened, hope u can get over it, n plz, open ur eyes next time, plz just dont measure guys by the sweetness of their talk, cuz its all bullshit!
i really wish that i was anywhere close to u, at least u'd had my shoulder to lean on.. plz dont stop posting in this forum, we could be good friends =)

with all my love, all my respects, all my affections, n all my best wishes
~Nîlûfer *hugz*

[missIndependent]

btw, he didnt have much to say in here, thats what he said: *he doesnt even know how to write in kurdish*

salam mn nawm adl hawramia la baritaniawa am wshanam anusm hiwa darm la har shwnki jihan han ba zmani shirini kurdi qsa akan hiwa darm sar bulnd
Bn .zor sopas.

hi, my name is adl hewrami, im writing these words from the uk, hope where ever in this world u r, speak with the sweet kurdish language! good luck.
many thanx.


i know there wasnt any point of doin it, but just that u know it wasnt anything bad towards u or anything!