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people who don't know suleymania think that it's heaven.

PostAuthor: xape gyan » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:13 am

people from zaxo duhok hewler think that silêmanî is heaven because they don't have their so called freedom in their own towns, they think they can get it in silêmanî but the truth is otherwise...

its true that silêmanî is "open minded" then the other places but only the real silêmanîs r open minded in everything and now a days u dont get to c real silêmanîs 'cause they all left..most of the people who stays/lives in silêmanî they r all from the villages around it


and i'm born there i'm a real silêmanî
my granddad helped building it you can find his name in a book published in slemani with the names of the families/man's who helped building silêmanî
so for those who feel attackted..relax..chill out..i know what i'm talking about.. :)


back then in the 60's and 70's even the 80's slemani was heaven
but now it looks more like a hell

and a western woman..who can accept not to go out any time she wants..who can accept to live for the people around her..by that i mean the neighbours..who will for sure act as they r the boss over u..
and who can accept the dirty things that the village people say about u when u walk by :evil:
who can accept their mentalllity..
then sure..u can live there
dont forget the water and the electr.

keçi bash..people who build the city can't live there anymore..now you wanna go back and try to live there?

if u will and you really can live there.. then u deserve a sculpture or a big portret of youu next to that old man i forgot his name he's a very important person who has a big portret in silêmanî in the center..
anyhow



silêmanî is beautifull and will always be in my heart..but there is no life anymore :(
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people who don't know suleymania think that it's heaven.

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PostAuthor: DARA » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:43 am

SALAAM XAPE GYAN


MY BF WAS BORN IN SULIMNIA, HIS FAMILY IS THERE, I LIVE IN THE UK, LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE, I LOVE MY BF, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT LIFE IS LIKE FOR A WOMAN THERE, WHY IS IT HELL? HES TOLD ME I WOULD LIKE IT THERE, ITS MODERN, I CAN FIND WORK OUT THERE, DRIVE, GO OUT ON MY OWN ETC

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PostAuthor: xape gyan » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:07 pm

that's what they told me too..so i went back..i drove..i went out whenever i wanted..everything was fine..if i just looked forward and closed my ears

i was driving in the center my sister sitting next to me and my cousine sitting behind..before i knew we were surrounded by more then `100 men's looking at us

that city is a city for men's not for woman's thats y ur bf says its ok cuz he didnt feel it as a woman

the only way to find out is to go back for 3 weeks and i think u'd wanna come back after 1 week..you have to c it ur self
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:14 pm

This reminds me of the discussion in Istanbul :lol: . The villagers are more "Islamic" right?
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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people who don't know suleymania think that it's heaven.

PostAuthor: xape gyan » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:31 am

i just had a very lovely valentine's day :lol: ..hope u all did too..i cant catch sleep so i'm surfing around..


its not that they r islamic its just they r old fashion..

u can get the ppl out of the village but u cant get the village out of them
and i red somewhere that cuz of the satalite channels they r getting liberale and new idea's but thats untrue cuz they get it wrong

when ppl in kurdistan thinkk about europe they think about sex
they thinkk ppl here r doing it withh everyone thhey have such a bad idea of freedom/liberalism

and the kurds here r more kurds(we have more kurdish values and idea's) then those there (not only silêmanî) and thats cuz of the satalite channels

we silêmanîs say: "silêmanî bes berge" means silêmanî is only a show/york

i really think u should talk with silêmanîs who knows it really good..i have stories 4 u..after u heard them i think u'll never say silêmanî again..

i've the feeling that im talking so bad about it even though its my city and i love it..but really its just f****d
ai caramba
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PostAuthor: Diri » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:23 am

Hahaha :lol:


Xape Gyan... You are being very honest, indeed... It's hard to critisize one's own hometown...
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PostAuthor: Amanc » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:49 pm

nobody is saying silemani is heaven, but the rest is even worse, thats the point :D
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weziri mafi afratan xape gyaaaaaaaannnn!!!!!!

PostAuthor: xape gyan » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:09 pm

but duhok is good too..when i went back 4 the first time some yrs ago and i went to duhok i felt like i was in slemani but zaxo and hewler r like hell

sorry 4 those who feel attackted


i love zaxo cuz of the brigde i lLOVE pirdi delal
but its really not a place to live in for a woman
and hewler they should just bomb it (their mentallity)
i went out to go to a internetcafe to talk to my family here...i went with a cousine..a male one..and i was all dressed up couldnt c any skin i was like a pingquin..the people on thhe street they stoned us!! they thoughted that we were lovers or something or even something worse....

in hewler they should start all over from the first cell to the dino's to the monkey's then MAYBE they'll get better again :lol:

2004 was my first time that i went back and slemani was perfect
no1 said anything even the people who live there they said it was an improvement
but after 2004 things got worse
with every political movement the mentallity of the ppl changes..

and the woman is the one who's getting "screwed" everytime again
(now im a real feminist :P )

i think we should get a minister for woman's right..
"weziri mafi afratan xape gyan" :lol:
sounds goooooooooo :lol: ooooood

how aboutt tthat???!!!!

VOTE 4 ME NEXT ELECTION!!!!

XAPA GYAN GOING MINISTER FOR WOMAN'S RIGHT
VOTE NUMBER 666 (cuz men's think woman's r the devil)

(we already got a useless minister for human's right who doesn't do anything but I....XAPE :twisted: GYAN...will!!! at least for more then the half population of kurdistan)
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:28 am

:lol: Xûşka Xapa Gyan... You are hilarious! :lol:


Alright... I'll vote for you... 8)



And yeah - as you said - nobody should be offended... We are all in this together... But at the same time Xapa Gyan - you musn't generalize ALL the people from ONE place... Not ALL Hewlêrî are like that... Keep that in mind... :wink:
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PostAuthor: Amanc » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:25 pm

xape gyan i am 100% zaxoly, i don't feel attacked, ebcause you are 100% right. it is sad, because it used to be very different in the 70s and 80s
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PostAuthor: DARA » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:11 pm

I am confused, my bf tells me i would like it in sulimani, u guys are telling me the opposite, can women drive there, would i be able to go out on my own, how would i have to dress ect, i have spent time in dubia, that is more cosmopolitan, just like London, I could live there. :roll:

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PostAuthor: DARA » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:16 pm

can someone tell me what sulimani was like in the 70. 80, and whats it like now, a true picture. my bf was born in 1982, he left sulimani when he was 16, not seen his family since then, been in the uk since 2002

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PostAuthor: xape gyan » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:56 pm

dara gyan keçi bash listen
slemani was back then..till the end of the 80's heaven..for a woman..
u could do everything wear anything hang out with boys drive n go out
everything that u do here u could do there
but then the islam came(part of the irak/iran war) and the village people
everything changed..the real slemani people..those who were really open minded left so the village ppl got slemani over..and they r old fashion so slemani changed
girls got married when they got 16 or 15yrs
it was bad for a woman to go out even to the bazar was a sin..
their mentallity changed..cuz of the many village people

u can drive there now..but people wont say good to u..most of the woman's who drive there r married so then its good ..if ur 40 or so..
and u can dress a lil more 'naked' then the other parts of kurdistan
untill ur elbow or a lil above
no decolleté..
no skirts above ur knee
no very tight jeans/pants

u have to cover ur body

back then untill the 80s it was just like here even worse
i have old family photo's my aunts mom and their cousines
they wear mini skirts and hot pants
and naked arms
just what was in the fashion back then and not only slemani was like that
whole irak was like that

dont know if u ever watched black and white movies of egypt u c how naked they were and in the 80's they changed
thats cuz islam wasn't such a big deal back then
untill khomeini came..he fucked everything
THANK U VERY MUCH MISTER KHOMEINI!!KOS KESH!!

so then it got ruined..whole middle east..

but still slemani compared to the other cities its still the paris of iraq

but really u have to go back n c how its like instead of jumping into the darkness and u dont know where ull land

but dont worry...vote for XAPE GYAN next election nr:666 :twisted:
everything will b fine then

i already have plan's/idea's :P

i already have a vote from DIRI :wink: thanx ey..!!
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