Baris, Diri, Dyaoko my friends

[writerofseanovels]

Last night on 60 minutes which is well respected
news magazine here in the states - CBS did segment on Iraqi
Kurdistan. 60 minutes has an audience of at least 15 to 20
million viewers and you all can see the segment by going to
the link below. I think you will really like what you see in their
video segments especially the one on The antanomy of Kurdistan.
I am sure that the millions of people here are very impressed as
I was with what your people have done there and the way you feel
about us here.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/ ... 6679.shtml

[dyaoko]

wow thats great man !
I am happy you follow kurdistan news , whats up with you ?

[Barış]

Yea realy informative.

[Diri]

Hello Mark

Happy to know you caught the program!

I couldn't find a link to the video on the cbs's news site - so I found the first 10 minutes of the documentary on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_j8KX3jM-A&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

Yes, Mark - the Kurds would be the US' best friends and allies - if the US' allowed us to...

[Darkseid]

Last night on 60 minutes which is well respected
news magazine here in the states - CBS did segment on Iraqi
Kurdistan. 60 minutes has an audience of at least 15 to 20
million viewers and you all can see the segment by going to
the link below. I think you will really like what you see in their
video segments especially the one on The antanomy of Kurdistan.
I am sure that the millions of people here are very impressed as
I was with what your people have done there and the way you feel
about us here.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/ ... 6679.shtml

You should seek a different friend from that of Diri.

He is a kurd starting to side with the Turks. I can understand Baris since he is half Turkic and therefore hold a reasonable account of sympathy towards Turks. I mean that is understandable. But... as we all know the Turks have practiced genocide and oppression on the Kurdish people.

Dyaoko is a respectful person, so I won't hold anything against him. But Diri has shown a great deal of empathy towards to Turkic people and even wishes to co-exist as one of them. We are taking about getting rid of Kurdish identity to be a Turk.

And allow me for some time to show you where I got that information.

[quote=Diri]They don't need to be that... As long as they would be democratic, everything would be solved in due time... But as long as there is corruption and all sorts of mischief going on behind the curtains, then it will be this way forever... If not even worse... [/quote]

Honestly I can understand the immediant reaction to this. But this is a response to what I've said about using democracy in a country where Kurds are daily abused and the Turks make up the majority. Democracy works by majority rule. If it doesn't then it isn't democracy, because democracy is about the power of the vote. And when a vote is caste it is the majority of that vote that decides what takes place.

Now do you understand why I say those things about Diri?

BTW, democracy can only work in an evironment that is stable. It isn't working in Iraq, because the environment isn't stable. You need to have stability in the region first.

Anyways, Baris is a friend of mine so I can understand why he is a good friend and Dyaoko is a figure of respect which can also be understandable as a good friend even though he and I aren't quite friendly yet. We are more like time-to-time associates.

Diri used to be my friend until started making insults and continue to question my logic or bringing such up even after I have asked him to stop.

[Diri]

Last night on 60 minutes which is well respected
news magazine here in the states - CBS did segment on Iraqi
Kurdistan. 60 minutes has an audience of at least 15 to 20
million viewers and you all can see the segment by going to
the link below. I think you will really like what you see in their
video segments especially the one on The antanomy of Kurdistan.
I am sure that the millions of people here are very impressed as
I was with what your people have done there and the way you feel
about us here.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/ ... 6679.shtml

You should seek a different friend from that of Diri.

He is a kurd starting to side with the Turks. I can understand Baris since he is half Turkic and therefore hold a reasonable account of sympathy towards Turks. I mean that is understandable. But... as we all know the Turks have practiced genocide and oppression on the Kurdish people.

Dyaoko is a respectful person, so I won't hold anything against him. But Diri has shown a great deal of empathy towards to Turkic people and even wishes to co-exist as one of them. We are taking about getting rid of Kurdish identity to be a Turk.

And allow me for some time to show you where I got that information.

They don't need to be that... As long as they would be democratic, everything would be solved in due time... But as long as there is corruption and all sorts of mischief going on behind the curtains, then it will be this way forever... If not even worse...

Honestly I can understand the immediant reaction to this. But this is a response to what I've said about using democracy in a country where Kurds are daily abused and the Turks make up the majority. Democracy works by majority rule. If it doesn't then it isn't democracy, because democracy is about the power of the vote. And when a vote is caste it is the majority of that vote that decides what takes place.

Now do you understand why I say those things about Diri?

BTW, democracy can only work in an evironment that is stable. It isn't working in Iraq, because the environment isn't stable. You need to have stability in the region first.

Anyways, Baris is a friend of mine so I can understand why he is a good friend and Dyaoko is a figure of respect which can also be understandable as a good friend even though he and I aren't quite friendly yet. We are more like time-to-time associates.

Diri used to be my friend until started making insults and continue to question my logic or bringing such up even after I have asked him to stop.

This is so pathetic, Darkseid...

Seriously. All this rubbish because I broke your heart when I said that I didn't agree with your Dranaian party?

But now that it has come to this, you should get your facts straight:

You and I have two different oppinions on what "Democracy" is... So that renders your own interpretation of my quote as absolete.


What I'm gonna say now, may sound "harsh" to some people. But I will say it anyway:

Darkseid, you are an American sitting in the comfort of your home far far faaaar away from the Kurdish reality. You are the last person to be judging me and other Kurds for our views and oppinions on our own people and our own struggle. We are the ones who face the reality of Kurdistan and we are the ones who suffer it's consequences... I am in Norway BECAUSE of being a Kurd... Because of prosecution and oppression for being a Kurd...

But you, who are you? You are just another outsider who's rude and impolitely accusing me of being a sell-out... Well you are the last to care or to be affected... As such you should be the last to open your mouth and pollut the air inciting to hatred and encouraging violence and enimosity...

The thing that angers me most of all, is how you try to portray me as a traitor to my own people... While I am of the most patriotic and cherishing kind...

You must feel very very veeeery heartbroken over my disagreement with your Dranaian party...

And while you are the one actively advocating breaking up the Kurdish nation - calling for an independent "Zazaistan"... The irony...

[Balci]

well well, looks like the flame war just started.

[sicpit]

Diri you are so correct, Darkseid and me were cool, until I challenged his ideas on his not so big party. He has absolutely no power, and hardly any support yet he is already manipulative, and acts as if he is the all mighty deity of Roj Bash online forum. He is a hypocrite to say the least, he insults, yet when someone does insult him (I have not heard an insult yet) or questions him, he complains. I do not trust you, and Diri is a 100% correct, he is Kurd, you are not. Kurdistan effects him, and not you. I will gladly admit that I am not a Kurd, and that what happens in Kurdistan doesn't really effect me. Well I do have religious importance in Lalish, but this is beside the point.


If truth is an insult Darkseid, than yes I am insulting you