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Re: Draneinan party

PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:03 pm

I have a very simple question;

Why that name? And what does it mean?
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PostAuthor: Balci » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:02 pm

darkseid can explain you that better, Can't remember clearly.
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Re: Draneinan party

PostAuthor: Darkseid » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:38 am

Diri wrote:I have a very simple question;

Why that name? And what does it mean?


Dran is my word for god. In athiestic terms it specifically means truth and unity, a sufist and baha'ist principle. In a larger way it means, "as true as we stand together."

It was basically the only thing I could choose that didn't have a copy right law on it.
I got a new part of it, but this is strictly part of the Israeli Brand of the Draneian Party.

Here is an idea of mine.

Why not establish a federal union?

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Here is a more clear outline to show some specific information that may best portray the kind of country I wish to create:

[SIZE="2"]The Levant[/SIZE]

Capital: Jerusalem

Official Languages: Many

[SIZE="2"]Government[/SIZE]: Five Branched Federal Republic with autonomous regions.

Executive: Semi-Presidential

The President

Description: The President is the head of state, head of foreign affairs in the executive branch, and the commander and chief of the armed forces. The President is elected by direct popular vote, serves a five year term, most be over the age of 30, a native of the Levant, score over 120 in a legally documented intelligence examination, has no direct affiliation with any political party, able to speak both Hebrew and Arabic, must be nominated by the Senate, and can serve additional terms by approval from the Constitutional Branch.

The Prime Minister

Description: The Prime Minister is the head of the government and handels domestic affairs in the executive branch. The Prime Minister is nominated by the President with approval from the National Assembly and elected by the general populace by a federal vote. To explain it simply, each state takes into account as a single vote and the winning over the majority of people in each state wins the vote of that state. Since the District of Jerusalem is associated as a state and therefore a tie is likely to occur, the National Assembly will act in favor as a tie breaker and if there should be a tie in the National Assembly. The Prime Minister serves a term of two years and can serve additional terms by approval from the President and the National Assembly.

Legislative: Tricameral

Lowest House: National Assembly/Knesset

Description: Each Assebler of the National Assembly/Knesset is elected into office for a term of two years for an unlimited fixed period of terms, is over the age of 18, and must be certified of knowwing both Arabic and Hebrew. The Assemblers represents roughly every 100,000 people with an additional representative for any additional amount from each state. The Lowest House brings in legislation of Domestic Concerns, has the right to approve of the selection of prime minister candidates nominated by the president and the right to nominates additional candidates, can pass legislation from the Senate, can fire the prime minister by vote of no confidence, can impeach the president with approval by the consitutional branch of this government, has the right to dissolve the Senate with approval from the Chamber of Censors and the Constitutional Branch, has the right to dissolve the Chamber of Censors with approval from the Federal Senate and the Constitutional Branch, and has the right to dissolve it self with approval from the Constitutional branch with a monthly prior notice to the electorial branch.

Middle House: Chamber of Censors

Description: The Chamber of Censors is the middle house of legislation and cannot make legislation. However, it can pass legislation and it has the right to establish the rules of decency in each house of legislation, deciding how debates should be conducted and how to settle disputes between members or factions in the House and Senate's members. Censors are elected from universities from each state, except for those that exceed the number of ten (like Lebanon) and therefore can only elect members from its top ten universities. The Censors serve four year terms and must be of at least eighteen years of age.

Highest House: Federal Senate

Description: The highest house of legislation, the Senate is composed of five members from each state with the exception of the District of Jersusalem, which has two due to its classication as the capital district of the entire federation. Each of these members provides a different factor of electibility and interest for the states themselves. The first group of Senators are elected out of direct popularity. The second group of Senators are elected from a special ballot from the State's established minority doctrine (either a religious minority, ethnic minority, physically disabled, or a woman). The third group is elected the political party that wins the most votes out of each state. The forth group of senators is elected from the state's legislative branch. Finally, the fifth group is appointed by the president from nominated from each state's governor. As for the District of Jerusalem, each senator is elected out of popular appeal from the two halves of the city. The Senators serve a term of six years, establish legislation concerning foreign matters, government process, has the power to remove Judges from their respects courts, and must be over 40 years of age.

Furthermore, each house of legislation is presided by a partipant that had lost the election for president, which is called a consul. If the Consul is kicked out of office by his house, then that house can elect a temporary Consul from its own members. The Consuls serve a term equal to that of the president.

Judicial: Independent

Description: The Judicial Branch is independent from the other branches and divided into Magistrate, District, Appeals, Lower, and Superior Supreme Courts. There are religious courts that are runned independent from the main Judicial Branch, but their rulings can easily be overruled by a secular court in any case that there is a dispute between the religious courts of two or more religions (Thus protecting Judaism from Islam and vice versa). The Judges are namely elected except for those of the Lower Supreme Court, which are appointed for life into office by the President by approval of the Upper/Superior Supreme Court. The Magistrate Courts act as a first judicial presidence over matters that have exceeded the state's judicial ability or authority. District courts serve in the interest of ending disputes between two contemporary states. Appeals courts act in the favor of appealing the judicial order conducted in a lower court. The Lower Supreme Court acts as a buffer addressing matters before they come to the Superior Supreme Court. The Superior Supreme Court is composed of Five Justices with each elected base on a different matter of law. (Jewish Law, Christian Law, International/Secular Law, Druze Law, and Islamic Law). The Chief Justice serves in the interst of International/Secular law and can easily overrule the decisions made by an individual Justice of the Superior Supreme Court. The Superior Justices serve single ten year terms, must be at least 50 years of age, and have former political experience at the national level as either a member of the executive, legislative, lower judicial, constitutional, or elective branches.

Constitutional:

The Constitutional Branch is the anti-corruption part of the government that can edit the constitution with amendments proposed by the president and agreed upon by the states and parliament. The constitutional branch is heade by the Chancellor who is elected into office by popular vote over the entire Levant from officials nominated by the Chief Justice and approved by the Chamber of Censors. The Chancellor serves a single term of seven year. The role of Chancellor is basically equal to that of state comptroller, except that the Chancellor can invoke authority over the other branches of legislation under such cases as an overwhelming majority (over 90%) approval from the people validate the needed cause to suspend the government temporarily, in the state of emergency of which is declared by the President and all houses of legislation, or in the state of emergency in the event that the president and all contemporary sucessors have been removed from office or killed. The Chancellor will excersize authority as the needed official until the next election period. The Chancellor must step down or draw back from power during the next time of election or be removed from power by the U.N. In the case, that the Chancellor's term will expire prior to the next election period, the Chancellor can appoint an interim official to run the office for that remainding time until the next election period begins. The Chancellor has the right to settle disputes between the President and the Prime Minister. In addition, the Chancellor can dissolve the Presidency, Supreme Court, and/or the Parliament in such cases that they don't suspend on their own after the people have shown no confidence in either of them. The Chancellor must be a native citizen of the Levant and has former experience in government matters in the Levant. The Chancellor can be removed from office if there is not a vote of no confidence placed on the Presidency, Parliament, and Supreme Court by the people.

Electorial:

Description: The Electorial Branch is in charge of the electorial process of tallying up and insuring the direct democracy of candidates into office. The officials in the electorial branch are called, "Electors" and they serve yearly long term from their elected community (often a village, suburb, or town). The leading elector is the Director who is an elector voted into power by his or her fellow electors. The Director's job is to insure order and responsibility of the electorial process. The Director has the right to fire electors under charges of criminal activity and such. The Director can also suspend elective activity in areas that have shown too much hostility, like the Gaza Strip, but most precisely in those exact communities (Tribes, towns, and suburbs) that have the current status as a danger zone to its inhabitants or to nearby. (This would prevent Hamas and Hezbollah from having any part in the Federation.)
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Re: Draneinan party

PostAuthor: nuray » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:18 pm

you have the west bank, east jerusalem, but not gaza. it is part of palestine too. why you exclude it?
and should not the golan be give back to syria?
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PostAuthor: Darkseid » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:10 pm

nuray wrote:you have the west bank, east jerusalem, but not gaza. it is part of palestine too. why you exclude it?


It is seperate. The Hamas/Fatah conflict has seperated the Gaza Strip from Palestine. Also it wouldn't be wise to have an exclave. It creates to much of a dependency from the middle state to manage.

and should not the golan be give back to syria?


Ever since the Six Day war, the Golan Heights has remain a part of Israel though it is claimed and mapped as a part of Syria.

I think the Golan as being a highly Druze population should seek to seperate from their Baathist neighbors. Also it serve in their interest to be a seperate entity by having all of that Syrian and Israeli influence. How can they become a part of any country?
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Re: Draneinan party

PostAuthor: nuray » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:03 pm

Darkseid wrote:
nuray wrote:you have the west bank, east jerusalem, but not gaza. it is part of palestine too. why you exclude it?


It is seperate. The Hamas/Fatah conflict has seperated the Gaza Strip from Palestine. Also it wouldn't be wise to have an exclave. It creates to much of a dependency from the middle state to manage.

and should not the golan be give back to syria?


Ever since the Six Day war, the Golan Heights has remain a part of Israel though it is claimed and mapped as a part of Syria.

I think the Golan as being a highly Druze population should seek to seperate from their Baathist neighbors. Also it serve in their interest to be a seperate entity by having all of that Syrian and Israeli influence. How can they become a part of any country?

yes i know about this but i still think the gaza as region of palestine. it is very sad... do you think hamas will take over the west bank too? i doubt hamas would bomb and storm through erez checkpoint, maybe dig tunnels and take over that way? also i hear there are some hamas still in the west bank... i hope that do not happen and fatah kills them all there. there are many palestinians that want to leave the gaza now but the idf will not alow them to cross erez border...

i am unsure about the golan heights being seperate.
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Re: Draneinan party

PostAuthor: nuray » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:35 am

maybe the iaf and idf will kill alot of hamas... they fire missiles at 2 rocket launchers and sent tanks into gaza and kill 4 hamas.they say it is ''limited operation'' but i am not so sure... also they finally allow some ill wounded palestinians and foreigners who had been there for days cross erez border.
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Re: Draneinan party

PostAuthor: Darkseid » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:01 pm

nuray wrote:yes i know about this but i still think the gaza as region of palestine.
I don't either thats why I see it as a seperate entity.

it is very sad... do you think hamas will take over the west bank too?


They would have to go through Israel to reach the West Bank. Unless they want to go through Egypt into Saudi Arabia and Jordan in order to reach the West Bank.

i am unsure about the golan heights being seperate.


Why?
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PostAuthor: nuray » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:24 pm

Darkseid wrote:
nuray wrote:yes i know about this but i still think the gaza as region of palestine.
I don't either thats why I see it as a seperate entity.

it is very sad... do you think hamas will take over the west bank too?


They would have to go through Israel to reach the West Bank. Unless they want to go through Egypt into Saudi Arabia and Jordan in order to reach the West Bank.

i am unsure about the golan heights being seperate.


Why?

if it is made seperate ı think the syrians will insist it is thier land and fight to get it back. they already have plans to get it back from israel.
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Re: Draneinan party

PostAuthor: Darkseid » Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:15 pm

nuray wrote:Why?

if it is made seperate ı think the syrians will insist it is thier land and fight to get it back. they already have plans to get it back from israel.[/quote]

Since Syria was dumb enough to lose that land in the first place after fighting for just six days with Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Palestine on their side, I seriously doubt they'll be able to win it over from Israel.

However if that land was made independent and Syria was no longer controlled by that fascist regime, I am quite certain the Golanese will be able to secure their own. And there can finally be a Druze state.
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Re: Draneinan party

PostAuthor: Aaliyah » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:13 am

So why don't you just join a political party that shares the same political views as you do. :)
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Re: Draneinan party

PostAuthor: Balci » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:33 am

Because there are no one? thats why we made the ideology in the first place :p
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Re: Draneinan party

PostAuthor: Aaliyah » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:32 am

OK THEN , GOOD LUCK WITH IT. :)
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Re: Draneinan party

PostAuthor: Balci » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:31 am

thanks! we will need it ^^
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Re: Draneinan party

PostAuthor: Darkseid » Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:04 pm

Aaliyah wrote:So why don't you just join a political party that shares the same political views as you do. :)


There is no political party that shares the same political views as we do.

We support small business capitalism in a national-socialistic economy with highly green (environmentally friendly) standards with the conservation of cultural integrity, an end to political corruption, and the continuation of the seperation from church and state. Why don't you go ahead and name me a few political parties throughout the entire world that embrasses such a political platform, huh?

Aaliyah wrote:OK THEN , GOOD LUCK WITH IT. :)


We would appreciate it if you could join us. It wouldn't hurt us at all to have you as a fellow member. In fact, it is the sort of thing we need. (More than just two members).
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