Could I Possibly Be Half Kurd?

[nuray]

choose kirmaşan.

[nuray]

and then dersim.

[nuray]

I know, that's why the after it.

Who's that Kur girl?

rojîn

[Barış]

I know, that's why the after it.

Who's that Kur girl?

rojîn

Rojin what?

[Barış]

Nevermind. I searched and found!
http://www.rojinrojin.com/yeni/default.asp

[matin123]

i like rojin also

[matin123]

saami jaan, did you find out more about your background ?

[saami]

I asked my grandmother but she said she doesn't know. So at this point, I am going to do my own research.

[Emanoelkurdistani]

I don't know where to begin, but I think I might be half Kurdish; although I could also be wrong. The reason I say this is because my mom and a lot of her family came from Kermanshah while my dad was born in Kerman, a center for Zoroastrian followers.

Is there a possibility that I could be half Kurdish? How can I find out?

Arzu thank you so much for that link!

Doroud va Salaam,

Well I think-more likely u must be Kurdish from maternal side. Kirmanshah province of Iran is fairly populated by Kurds along with a little minority of special Turkophone tribes in Sonqor-i Kolyayi. In northwest of Kirmanshah province Hewrami speaking Kurds live, in the North, Sorani (close to Erdelani) speaking Kurds live, in the west and southwest and east speakers of southern Kurdish live (Kelhuri Kurdish). And from Hersin (southeast of Kirmanshah) Leki speaking areas start all the way to the 50km of northwest of Khorram Abad (Lurrish: Khormuwe) centre of Lurristan province.
The special Turkophone population are focused in the Sonqor region-northeast of Kirmanshah. They are around 50,000 living with their Kurdish neighbours of Kolyayi tribe in the Sonqor-i Kolyayi city. I'm not sure if they're Turkmen (like Afshar, etc) or Azerbaijani, or probably independent Turkophones, but their Turkish is really special: Grammatically Turkish, Lexically Kurdish! For example a famous expression of them: "dereke bağla kereke qaşmasin" ~ "close the door so don't allow the donkey to skip out". In this ordinary sentence "der" is Kurdish word for "door" joining a Kurdish specific identify remarker "-eke" ~ "the"; "bağla-maq" is the Turkish verb for "to close/fasten"; "ker" Kurdish word for "donkey" joining "-eke" ~ "the" and iventually "qaş-maq" is the Turkish verb for "to skip/run".I have not seen such thick influence of a local non-Turkish language on the Turkish any where else. Also Turkophone people of Sonqor wear Kurdish clothings, dance Kurdish, and often speak in Southern Kurdish (specially sub-dialect of Kolyayi) with u. Their special kind of Turkish is just among themselves.

Also Kurds of Kirmanshahan province are mainly Muslim (~70% Shiite, ~30% Sunnite) along with a significant number of Ahl-e Haq (also know as Yarsan, Ali Allahi, Goran, Ateshbeygi, as one of my Ateshbeygi friends said: Ahle Haq or Yarsan is the influence of Pre-Islamic Iranian believes on Islam; though Ahle Haqs appreciate Ali-forth Caliphate and 1st Imam of Shiites, but their way of worship or "tariqa" really reminds Zoroastrian instructions). Also some Kurdish Jewishs and Armenian Christians used to stay in Kirmanshah city not a long time ago! I must note that after Iraqi-Iranian war of 1980-88 some Arab refugees live in the border line city of Qesr-i Shirin.

[Arzu]

No problem. I think you'll have to find out by DNA testing, gyan.

[saami]

I'm sorry for not replying sooner; I have been running around school and job searches. I had two good interviews so hopefully somethings will work out

Maybe I do have a Kurdish background on my mom's side that I have not discovered yet; all I know is that I get really upset when I hear remarks made against Kurds.

[nuray]

'the special turkophone population' is afşar of oğuz tribe.sonqori language belong to south oğuz group.

[dyaoko]

I'm sorry for not replying sooner; I have been running around school and job searches. I had two good interviews so hopefully somethings will work out

Maybe I do have a Kurdish background on my mom's side that I have not discovered yet; all I know is that I get really upset when I hear remarks made against Kurds.

hey Saami I know many Kurdish Grandmom from Kermaşan who hide their kurdish identity.
unfortuantely about 70-80 years ago, Shah of iran made much bad picture of kurds, and kermaşanî kurds kind of felt ashamed of being kurd,
so many of them started speaking persian with their childern and didnt insist on their kurdish roots, the funny is , later , many of them changed their minds and their childern became kurds again .

I bet you are kurd on mom side , ofcourse they didn't insist on telling you this .
does your grandmom uses any Kurdish word , for example in swearing at somebody or.. ?

[saami]

To be honest, not that I know of. My cousin may have a book that could help me out; I really want to know!

Which words should I look out for? If you want, you can email it to me to avoid using swear words.

[Emanoelkurdistani]

'the special turkophone population' is afşar of oğuz tribe.sonqori language belong to south oğuz group.

I call it "special" becuz of the "special/unusual" degree of Kurdish loans in it. Afshars dont live in Kirmanshan province. As far as I know they are in Hamadan, Fars province, Urmya city, some in Aradabil, and ofcourse in confedrations with Kurdish tribes in Northern Iranian Khorasan (Dar Gaz, Bojnord cities).