Asian or European ?

[Balci]

you are nationalist nothing more other wise history would talk success of kurds.

It is funny, there are a lot nation who have much better military and militaristic history, but you claim you are warriors.

Whatever, If you want, I salute you warriors.

So you think their just random warriors who fights just like everyone else?

With 50% women, and trash equipment and being 10 times lower than the enemy, still being a threat?

Call me nationalist i dont care but to me, the kurds will always be warriors, i dont care about "being warrior people officially" i dont care what the rest of the world thinks. Whats important is what i think.

In finland its the same, at the winter war, the finnish people won sovjet. They had 10 times less soldiers, equipment from 1 century ago and their a small country, while sovjet were used to war with other countries and they were a threat to the united states.

They see themselves as brave warriors, but are they known as warriors officially? no. do they care? no, aslong as their proud over themselves

Again, K4L is 100% right
We give a fuck about what you think, we and people who look into our history, knows that we ALWAYS have fought for independence and freedom. Say whatever you want, but you can't change facts and history zurd.

Edit:

and wtf keeps you here on the forum Zurd ? you deny our existence, history and culture, accompanied by rudeness and ignorance. If you just are here to piss us off, be my guest, continue, but you are just wasting your time rly.

[Diri]

Xenophon - The Greek general wrote about the time he retreated from Persia, through Kurdistan - with his 10 000 army...

He spoke about the brave Kardochi in "The Persian Expedition" part of his memoires...

The Persian writer Fardowsi, wrote about the Gord's and their bravery and heroic nature...

Medya (Kurds) and Babylon together crushed the brutal Assyrian empire... This is mentioned in the Bible if you are interested...

Selaheddin was a prime example of tribal Kurdish warriors - Mîr... He organized some of the greatest battles in Islamic and Kurdish history... Turkish mercenaries and bards served in his army, along with Persians, Arabs and other peoples...


Zurderer, you sound stuck up - kaba dayi - when you go on like you do now...

What makes you feel so threatened by Kurdish history?

I know what you want... You want to make Kurds small - so that you can manipulate them and use them in your little game...

We love our Kurdistan...

[Balci]

Xenophon - The Greek general wrote about the time he retreated from Persia, through Kurdistan - with his 10 000 army...

He spoke about the brave Kardochi in "The Persian Expedition" part of his memoires...

The Persian writer Fardowsi, wrote about the Gord's and their bravery and heroic nature...

Medya (Kurds) and Babylon together crushed the brutal Assyrian empire... This is mentioned in the Bible if you are interested...

Selaheddin was a prime example of tribal Kurdish warriors - Mîr... He organized some of the greatest battles in Islamic and Kurdish history... Turkish mercenaries and bards served in his army, along with Persians, Arabs and other peoples...


Zurderer, you sound stuck up - kaba dayi - when you go on like you do now...

What makes you feel so threatened by Kurdish history?

I know what you want... You want to make Kurds small - so that you can manipulate them and use them in your little game...

We love our Kurdistan...

Biji Diri

[zurderer]

Xenophon - The Greek general wrote about the time he retreated from Persia, through Kurdistan - with his 10 000 army...

And If I remember correct, he was talking about some people. Not Kurds. Of course, If Kurds have 4324123412 year history, It should be kurds.


do Med talk kurdish by the way? It is funny, armenian call urartu as armenians(when their langauge is different, and kurds call meds as kurds(do langauge same.)

Great so we are hittits. Bla bla bla.

Zurderer, you sound stuck up - kaba dayi - when you go on like you do now...

What makes you feel so threatened by Kurdish history?

Nothing, If It was realy history.

Sumers? warrior kurds? bla bla bla. Sorry , I dont accept Turkish lies, I wont accept kurdish either.

It is funny, If I believe such nonsense, I wil believe Turkish ones.

[K4L_2007]

Xenophon - The Greek general wrote about the time he retreated from Persia, through Kurdistan - with his 10 000 army...

And If I remember correct, he was talking about some people. Not Kurds. Of course, If Kurds have 4324123412 year history, It should be kurds.


do Med talk kurdish by the way? It is funny, armenian call urartu as armenians(when their langauge is different, and kurds call meds as kurds(do langauge same.)

Great so we are hittits. Bla bla bla.

No, he talked about "Xenophon referred to the Kurds in the Anabasis as "Kardukhi...a fierce and protective mountain-dwelling people" who attacked Greek armies in 400 BCE.[18] A Kurdish kingdom named Corduene, situated to the east of Tigranocerta[19] (east and south of present-day Diyarbakır, Turkey)"

But if we are not medies.. Where are the medies now? They did not get attacked and died out like spartans, they are not as few as assyrians, they were never slayed... Did they just stop calling themselves medians and chose a new identity or did they dissappear.

Iranians ancestors are persians, that we can all agree with. But even they say that if you want to know the clean version of persian language, look at the kurdish language. Thats because persians and medies spoke the same language, and the kurds kept their culture more than persians.

But thats what you always do, you deny proved facts and you think their just speculations, but they arent.

[Balci]

omg, accept it Zurd, you cant change history or facts. Medya is a part of Kurdistan, and will always be it.

[Diri]

Actually, Zurderer, the Urartians are ancestors of both Kurds and Armenians - that's why Kurds and Armenians are close... Ethnically, that is...


But ofcourse, Zurderer, now you are lying... You said you don't believe Turkish lies... You do...

Tell us one more time, what your version of history is...

According to you, Kurds came to todays Kurdistan with the Turks from Mongolia...

That's also what many fascist Turks think...

[zurderer]

According to you, Kurds came to todays Kurdistan with the Turks from Mongolia...

I said, like Turks kurds were also late comers.

Now, you claim Urartians too?

[Balci]

According to you, Kurds came to todays Kurdistan with the Turks from Mongolia...

I said, like Turks kurds were also late comers.

Now, you claim Urartians too?

You've still not answered to the rest of what Diri and K4L said.
Have you changed opinion about the Kurds not deserving the title as warriors ? and will you continue denying that Medya is a part of Kurdistan ?

[Diri]

According to you, Kurds came to todays Kurdistan with the Turks from Mongolia...

I said, like Turks kurds were also late comers.

Now, you claim Urartians too?

We don't "claim" anything... It is a known fact that several layers of cultures have passed through the Middle East... Some settled while others moved on - the Indo-European migration is one such cultural layer - which passed through Kurdistan in the 3rd millenium BC - and then passed on through to Europe...

For Kurdistan, this migration meant taking the language of the Medes - assimilation... Before the Medes, Kurds spoke Hurrian - which is closely related to Georgian, Chechniyan and other Caucasian languages... When the Medes came to Kurdistan, they replaced the Hurrian dynasty and rule - effectively becoming the ruling elite in Kurdistan... The people slowly but surely assimilated - but kept many of their Hurrian traditions and cultural customs...

For example, still today you can see the Hurrian tatoo traditions on Kurdish women and men... Although it's slowly becoming less normal, it's still a part of our culture and our heritage...

Just the same the Urartians have also given us something... The era of the Urartians has affected the areas of Kurdistan which it ruled...

And if you consider each area of Kurdistan has been under different influences, it makes sense that Kurdistan and Kurds are probably some of the worlds most diverse and multi-cultural people on earth...

[zurderer]

Have you changed opinion about the Kurds not deserving the title as warriors ?

I still did not see any proof about warriorship about Kurds.

and will you continue denying that Medya is a part of Kurdistan ?

same. I still did not see any proof

Diri, still we can see some cultural effect of hittits at Turkey too. Does that mean, we turks were hitits?

Of course, no culture die totally but that does not mean, Kurds were contination of these culture..

or should I call turks as, hitits, greeks or all other cultures which lived at anatolia.

[Diri]

[img="Zurderer"]Diri, still we can see some cultural effect of hittits at Turkey too. Does that mean, we turks were hitits?

Of course, no culture die totally but that does not mean, Kurds were contination of these culture..

or should I call turks as, hitits, greeks or all other cultures which lived at anatolia.[/img]

Actually Zurderer, "Turks" are the results of many layers of cultures too - but not in the same sense as the Kurds...

Kurds are the natives of their lands - been there since at LEAST 3rd millenium BC (3800 BC)- as you can read here:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/kurdish/htdocs/his/orig.html

The sense that the Turks are a result of many cultural layers is that the Ottomans were not "Turkish" - they were MUSLIM before anything... And the only reason the Turks and Mongols were accepted into the Middle East, was that they accepted Islam... If they hadn't accepted Islam, they would have faced greater battles...

But Turks of todays Turkey, have borrowed much from Kurds, Greeks, Armenians, Arabs, Persians and many other peoples...

Yet Kurds as natives, haven't borrowed - they have inherited their ancestors traditions andcustoms...

[Balci]

Have you changed opinion about the Kurds not deserving the title as warriors ?

I still did not see any proof about warriorship about Kurds.

and will you continue denying that Medya is a part of Kurdistan ?

same. I still did not see any proof

Diri, still we can see some cultural effect of hittits at Turkey too. Does that mean, we turks were hitits?

Of course, no culture die totally but that does not mean, Kurds were contination of these culture..

or should I call turks as, hitits, greeks or all other cultures which lived at anatolia.

you still don't get it ? eh ?

[K4L_2007]

Have you changed opinion about the Kurds not deserving the title as warriors ?

I still did not see any proof about warriorship about Kurds.

and will you continue denying that Medya is a part of Kurdistan ?

same. I still did not see any proof

Diri, still we can see some cultural effect of hittits at Turkey too. Does that mean, we turks were hitits?

Of course, no culture die totally but that does not mean, Kurds were contination of these culture..

or should I call turks as, hitits, greeks or all other cultures which lived at anatolia.

you still don't get it ? eh ?

Nevermind this, talking to him is like talking a wall, nonsense.

He isnt reading what we are writing, and he is denying official facts theres nothing more you can do except for building a time machine so he can see it lol.

[Diri]

Have you changed opinion about the Kurds not deserving the title as warriors ?

I still did not see any proof about warriorship about Kurds.

and will you continue denying that Medya is a part of Kurdistan ?

same. I still did not see any proof

Diri, still we can see some cultural effect of hittits at Turkey too. Does that mean, we turks were hitits?

Of course, no culture die totally but that does not mean, Kurds were contination of these culture..

or should I call turks as, hitits, greeks or all other cultures which lived at anatolia.

you still don't get it ? eh ?

Nevermind this, talking to him is like talking a wall, nonsense.

He isnt reading what we are writing, and he is denying official facts theres nothing more you can do except for building a time machine so he can see it lol.

OH NO (!!!)... We are doomed...

The world still hasn't developed any time-machines...

Except in Turkey of course... They've been back in time and changed history...