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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:31 pm

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Diri wrote:I don't like it...

IT IS AMED NOT DIYARBEKIR... :?


Who got the damn idea to adopt an ARAB name for it...? :roll:


It is like calling Hewlêr "Arbil" - and like calling Dersim "Tunceli"... :shock:

hm yea i know the city is AMED!........ but the song is called "diyarbekir" :roll:
pepula salah emin sings it



Well - consequently, I don't like the song... Ciwan Haco, isn't exactly my taste...
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PostAuthor: sorgul » Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:06 am

Diri wrote:
sorgul wrote:
Diri wrote:I don't like it...

IT IS AMED NOT DIYARBEKIR... :?


Who got the damn idea to adopt an ARAB name for it...? :roll:


It is like calling Hewlêr "Arbil" - and like calling Dersim "Tunceli"... :shock:

hm yea i know the city is AMED!........ but the song is called "diyarbekir" :roll:
pepula salah emin sings it



Well - consequently, I don't like the song... Ciwan Haco, isn't exactly my taste...


hmmmm ok
fyi its salah emin not ciwan haco...i dont like that kind music ethier :roll:
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:45 am

Diri wrote:I don't like it...



It is like calling Hewlêr "Arbil" - and like calling Dersim "Tunceli"... :shock:

Isn't Arbil an Assyrian name?
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PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:56 am

Arbil cames from Arbailu in Assyrian. The ancient name of Amid is Amida, I wonder if it is not an Aramaic/syriac name, too.
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PostAuthor: heval » Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:26 am

Piling wrote:Arbil cames from Arbailu in Assyrian. The ancient name of Amid is Amida, I wonder if it is not an Aramaic/syriac name, too.



Amed, Amid or Amida is a Kurdish name. Allow me to quote myself:

heval wrote:Ha ! Ha Ha !

You think wrong my friend. The city was originally called Amed or Amida because of the Medes (Median Kurdish ancestors) who originally inhabited it. It was eventually colonized by the Romans. But later, the city was conquered and annexed to the Sassanid Dynasty (Iranian Empire) in the 4th century.

Hence, Kurds have inhabited Amed much longer than the Arabs even set foot on it...
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PostAuthor: Piling » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:31 pm

Yes I have red you. But what are your sources ? I mean the scientific proof that it is a name from Medes. For we have absolutely no testimony of Medes'language (they did not write it) and even if it was composed as : "of Medes' place" what is the ethymology : A (?) Mida (is it Mede ?). And for the origin of Medes they came with Persians from Central Asia during the 1st Millenium BC. OK. The first settlement of Medes/Mards/Kyrtii tribes seems to to be around Urmiah Lake. They might have settled in Amid since 700-600 BC but are there sources mentionning the presence of Medes in that city ? For we have Syriac chronicles of Sassanid times, nut what about the Medes ? Medes'territory seems to be in Southern Wester Iran, called "Media" aka Djibal.
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PostAuthor: heval » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:25 am

Piling wrote:Yes I have red you. But what are your sources ? I mean the scientific proof that it is a name from Medes. For we have absolutely no testimony of Medes'language (they did not write it) and even if it was composed as : "of Medes' place" what is the ethymology : A (?) Mida (is it Mede ?). And for the origin of Medes they came with Persians from Central Asia during the 1st Millenium BC. OK. The first settlement of Medes/Mards/Kyrtii tribes seems to to be around Urmiah Lake. They might have settled in Amid since 700-600 BC but are there sources mentionning the presence of Medes in that city ? For we have Syriac chronicles of Sassanid times, nut what about the Medes ? Medes'territory seems to be in Southern Wester Iran, called "Media" aka Djibal.


There is no scientific proof that the name, "Amed", is an Aramaic name either, as some claim it to be. Although, it may have been the name that Aramaic speakers used to describe the city at that time. Yes, the settlement of Mîdî tribes primarily in the areas that lie in what today is Western Iran is true. However, the vast Median Empire, or Mîdya, covered areas even further west including the parts that are what we call Kurdistan, today. This even extended to areas south of the Tigris River. The settlement of Mîdî Kurds in these Northern Kurdistan cities is very probable.
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PostAuthor: heval » Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:06 am

I finally heard the new version of Ez Keçim by Aynur. It is so beautiful... too bad she didn't get another singer to sing the whole song with her though... :?
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PostAuthor: sorgul » Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:39 am

where?
tu hem gule hem rehani hem derd hem dermani
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PostAuthor: heval » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:14 am

sorgul wrote:where?


Talking to me? It's on her new CD :)
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:57 am

I got it too nice! Aynur will visit Holland and Belgium next year. I will look forward to it. I will first go to Rojin.
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