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Very strange...Iraqi Flag...every 2nd word that guy speaks is arabic...shouting baathist slogans, replacing "saddam" with "lalesh"...talking about "yezidi nation" and "kurdish nation" ???

this is not represening behavior of yezidi kurds

http://youtube.com/watch?v=frD0v_MuQqQ

I only see German flags and one Iraqi flag. Kurdish government is using Iraqi flag too and I could understand why Ezedi are mad at Kurdish muslims.

LAWL, I may be confused here, but, was he a baathist ? and why was he talking about a kurdish nation ?

What is he saying exactly?

Amanc wrote:Very strange...Iraqi Flag...every 2nd word that guy speaks is arabic...shouting baathist slogans, replacing "saddam" with "lalesh"...talking about "yezidi nation" and "kurdish nation" ???

this is not represening behavior of yezidi kurds

http://youtube.com/watch?v=frD0v_MuQqQ

We have to admit that Muslim Kurds have not been tolerant to Ezidi Kurds. This is the precondition for us to reach some sort of reconciliation. As for the Kurdishness of Ezidis, well one only needs to look at the legendery figure of Derwese Evde to understand the importance of ezidi religion to the emergence of Kurdish nationalism. Kurds in the north especially the Serhad region still listen to songs about Derwes and Edule love story of a Ezidi boy and Muslim girl. His shrine is Urfa. The Ezidi Kurds in the north are the most extreme Kurdish nationalist, I am not sure about the south, but there could be some individuals that argue otherwise. THis is very normal for an oppressed people. Also it is important to understand the use of the word "gel" as in "gele Ezidi". It is not used in the nation sense but more in the sense to differentiate from Muslim kurds. Similar to the use as in "Gele Amede" or Gele Merdine etc.


It is very important to be very sensitive in this issue and I personally do not tolerate any kind of prejudice towards ezidis by muslims kurds. barzanis statement to the Ezidi learders was very good and I think it is important that our leaders show by example. Some Muslims Kurds from the way they speak and write imply somehow that Kurds are all Muslim, this goes unnoticed, however when Ezidi's refere to themselves as Ezidi people this gets noticed. I will hate to narrow down Kurdishness to Islam, which will exclude Alevi (Kizilbash) and Ezidi Kurds and not to mention to small amount of Christian and Jewish Kurds.

You are right about everything you said. I am not going to discuss about the intolerance against yezidis, thats not my point. i am just wondering who is man is. and it makes me angry hearing them shouting baathist slogans, i do not care if he is yezidi muslim jewish or buddhist.

I didn't hear him praise Saddam. Just something about "Melek Tawus".

I agree with Rubar.

Dest xosh birayê Rûbar...


Indeed the word "Gel", does not mean "nation" when they say "Gelê Êzidî" or "Gelê Amed"...

It's like saying: "People from Amed" or "People who are Êzidî"...

The "ê" is a pro-noun suffix - and describes to "who" or "what", "Gel" belongs (in this case "Êzidî" & "Amed")...




Also I agree with Amanc... I won't accept baathist slogans from anybody... Kurd or not... Êzidî or not...

Diri wrote:Dest xosh birayê Rûbar...


Indeed the word "Gel", does not mean "nation" when they say "Gelê Êzidî" or "Gelê Amed"...

It's like saying: "People from Amed" or "People who are Êzidî"...

The "ê" is a pro-noun suffix - and describes to "who" or "what", "Gel" belongs (in this case "Êzidî" & "Amed")...




Also I agree with Amanc... I won't accept baathist slogans from anybody... Kurd or not... Êzidî or not...

He doesnt say "Gelê êzidî", he say miletê êzidî and differs it from "miletê kurd"

Amanc wrote:

Diri wrote:Dest xosh birayê Rûbar...


Indeed the word "Gel", does not mean "nation" when they say "Gelê Êzidî" or "Gelê Amed"...

It's like saying: "People from Amed" or "People who are Êzidî"...

The "ê" is a pro-noun suffix - and describes to "who" or "what", "Gel" belongs (in this case "Êzidî" & "Amed")...




Also I agree with Amanc... I won't accept baathist slogans from anybody... Kurd or not... Êzidî or not...

He doesnt say "Gelê êzidî", he say miletê êzidî and differs it from "miletê kurd"

Well then we're back to the problem... I didn't watch the video - but if he says miletê êzidî - then he can go throw himself off a cliff or something...