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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:04 pm

Don't compare KDP with BAATH.
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: cheryl » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:03 pm

Vladimir wrote:Don't compare KDP with BAATH.


They have the opportunity right now to not behave like Ba'athi. Will they take it?

And this is only the case of one person. Have they made an exception for Dr. Kamal, or are there others that we have not heard of?

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:51 am

TheKurdistani just uses news of Radio nawa and other Kurdish newspapers/sources. They almost never make their own news reports.. so then you have to say that Radionawa is not trustable.. or in this case kurdistanpost.

But TheKurdistani tends to exaggerate their news and I am not jealous.
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:58 am

Anyway I hope the news that Kemal is jailed for 30 years isn't true. Piling can't you ask for confirmation?
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:01 am

london007, be sure that we dont know that you are Biryar , the owner of the kurdistani .
and we are so stupid , be sure of that , we will never know.

we have known that the user name london007 is the same with Biryar , from months ago .


childish man , I wonder, why you don't stop your childish acting ?

1-one day you make a user name Kasandra, and pretend that you are a young hot girl , and you send 170 Private messages to our members that if they want to talk to this pretty lady , they must go to the kurdistani forum and leave this "racist" forum...and attack to here.

2-the other day you send e-mails to me , prtend that you are humantrian organization and want to buy this site .

3-the other day you publish gossip on your forum that Diri has done what you have done [number 1]

4- the other day you you post fake comments on your site, telling peopel we are agents of Iran and Turkey and peopel should avoid going to this forum...

5- the other day you copy the structure of this forum [you COPY EVERYTHING],
you steal the idea of gallery section
you steal contents of our Map section...
you steal the idea of having a section for practing kurdish language..
you steal everything on the site ...

I can continue this numbers to 9 .... but I wont

who is jealous of the other ? we or you ?
when will you stop your jealous attacks ? just to make some money ?

we have been completely ignoring you , chlidish man...
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:04 am

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Really stay on-topic..
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PostAuthor: Piling » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:08 am

Piling can't you ask for confirmation?


I'll try to join the guy this afternoon promise, I hope he is not still in Kurdistan.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:46 pm

The judgement summed up (as a neutral report) in roj bash blog :

http://northerniraq.info/blog/?p=30

Now we could discuss, but starting from the real fact, and debate about their relevance...
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PostAuthor: cheryl » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:33 pm

The charges for which Kamal Sayyid Qadir had been arrested and judged are not “insult and defamation”, as it had been published, especially by Amnesty International, but no more less than “espionage and plot against the safety and security of state”. Then a warrant had been issued for Kamal Sayyid Qadir’s arrest, and the Kurdish police seized him and he came in Kurdistan.



let's see the evidence of espionage and plotting against the state. which state, by the way?

these charges are bullshit. i know bashuri who have been warned about continuing their writings which are critical of the parties and here we see that there is a reason for concern over such warnings.

where did the parties pick up this behavior if not from the ba'ath, the kemalists and the mullahs?

after coming so far, is this how the adventure will end? with the substitution of two saddams for one? is this what so many have died for? is this what so many have sacrificed for?

there has been much positive development in south kurdistan in many areas, and much of that can be attributed to the two main parties. i suppose that is why this farce of "judicial" proceedings (in secret) and a so-called "investigation" (in secret) is so crushingly disappointing.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:45 pm

Apparently much people disliked or were fed up with th guys, but this accusation seems a bit... exaggerate.

I think that the best thing that Masud Barzani could do is to reprieve and expell him from Kurdistan and forbiding him to come back a certain time... :lol:
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PostAuthor: pepula » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:13 pm

yeah the guy dr kamal's sister spoke to......was jash ba'athi before
a lot of kdp's members are old ba'athist so for cheryl to compare them is not surprising

and thekurdistani does not make up news it always has sources or referrs to other sites.

and there have been many killed in the streets for trying to speak up against barzani and kdp. dr kamal was one of the lucky ones due to the media coverage on his case
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PostAuthor: heval » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:57 pm

London007 wrote:
heval wrote:Is this possible? I find it hard to believe that any KRG official (let alone the Minister of Human Rights) would say that one of their prisoners should "rot in jail". Kurdistani.com should have perhaps checked the validity of this news before they published it. Seems like an excessive number of their recent reports have been none other than negatives for the KRG.


can you show us ONE ARTICLE of TheKurdistani which was not true ?
Go on to their news archive and show us ONE ARTICLE that was published and it wasn't true.


Well, I cannot prove anything to you but I this recent news report is just not believable. What was the source of this news? Just Dr. Kamal's sister? And was it verified with another source? Don't get so upset London007. Why is it that you only come onto this forum whenever we question theKurdistani? I just feel that if theKurdistani wishes to focus it's efforts on publishing articles, which negatively affect the KRG or any organization or government, they should make sure that their news is credible and they should refrain from publishing news that does not seem to hold much merit. Plus...if it is so reliable then perhaps there is no need to defend it the way you do.
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