Zerdesht - Who was he and what?

[Diri]

And I as a Zardoshti and Persian will continue not caring about his ethnicity...he was Aryan and his words are timeless - that is enough for me. Whether he was a Kurd, Persian, Bactrian, Yaqnobi is of no relevance to me...I'm not interested in claiming credit or anything for his deeds.
I'd love to read about this Aso story though - could you link or refer to a section in the Avesta?

Sorry - only part I was refering to be said in the Avesta was the part I wrote in the ( ) = He was from Kurdistan (Soma û Biradosta)...

Aso being his name etc. and other fine details are part of the oral traditions of the Kurds...

Of course to me too he was simply a Prophet and inhabitant of Kurdistan... He was Kurdistanî (somebody from Kurdistan) - but not necessarily Kurdish...

I am curious what other people think of Zerdesht...

PS. Arash could you please post information about your faith? We know very little about it's practical sides - the rituals etc...

[Arashi]

Sorry - only part I was refering to be said in the Avesta was the part I wrote in the ( ) = He was from Kurdistan (Soma û Biradosta)...
Aso being his name etc. and other fine details are part of the oral traditions of the Kurds...

Oh alright...If I remember correctly, the Avesta states his place of birth as Oroomieh or somewhere near the river Aras...That was and is Kordestan/Medea, I suppose.

PS. Arash could you please post information about your faith? We know very little about it's practical sides - the rituals etc...

I'm sorry, I'm not really the most religious person you could find. I've read the Gathas, I celebrate the major festivals (Jashne Tîrgân being the only one celebrated by the community here in Sweden with people coming from" all over the world"; Mehregân was yesterday, but not much happened), I know some simple prayers, TRY to live my life right but that's about it. I don't pray everytime I wash my hands, and stuff like that.
I was never taught Dari, which saddens me. I'd prefered it over Tehrani Farsi. Dying languages should be passed on to future generations...

[Jamo]

How can people become a Zorastrian (Zardusht)? Do a lot of people convert into Zorastrism? Where do Zorastrians pray? Do you guys have temples or something like churchs where you can pray? Is Zorastrism older than Judaism? I heard that Judaism took some examples on Zorastrism such as Angels and Devil.

[Parsi]

How can people become a Zorastrian (Zardusht)? Do a lot of people convert into Zorastrism? Where do Zorastrians pray? Do you guys have temples or something like churchs where you can pray? Is Zorastrism older than Judaism? I heard that Judaism took some examples on Zorastrism such as Angels and Devil.

Traditionally, you have to be born into a Zoroastrian family to be a Zoroastrian, but recently, conversions are allowed in some places. Zoroastrians have temples "Atashgadeh." I believe the biggest one in Iran is in Yazd. Some scholars say Zoroastrianism is older than Judiasm while others say that it is not. The same applies to the influence the religion has had on Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

[Arashi]

You can convert to Zoroastrianism. Though Parsis of India do not allow this, which goes against Zoroastrian teachings. Parsis of India don't even see Zoroastrians of Iran as real Zoroastrians

[Piling]

I have a question about Zoroastrians in Iran. What kind of name they give to their children ? Only "Iranian" names like Khosrow, Shahpûr, etc, some "muslim" names also, or have they special names related to their religion ?

[Diri]

Zerdeshtî is the worlds first Monotheistic religion...

[Arashi]

I have a question about Zoroastrians in Iran. What kind of name they give to their children ? Only "Iranian" names like Khosrow, Shahpûr, etc, some "muslim" names also, or have they special names related to their religion ?

Yeah. Shapur, Jamshid, Ardeshir, Arash, Koroush, Dariosh, Aryan, Arzhan, etc...I've yet to meet a Zoroastrian called Mohammad or Abdul, except for converts...they tend to be funny

There are a few "Zoroastrian" names aswell...Like Soshyant (though I'm not sure people name their children that), Samyar, Poroucista, Tina, Vesta, Jamasb, etc...

[Diri]

I have a question about Zoroastrians in Iran. What kind of name they give to their children ? Only "Iranian" names like Khosrow, Shahpûr, etc, some "muslim" names also, or have they special names related to their religion ?

Yeah. Shapur, Jamshid, Ardeshir, Arash, Koroush, Dariosh, Aryan, Arzhan, etc...I've yet to meet a Zoroastrian called Mohammad or Abdul, except for converts...they tend to be funny

There are a few "Zoroastrian" names aswell...Like Soshyant (though I'm not sure people name their children that), Samyar, Poroucista, Tina, Vesta, Jamasb, etc...

You forgot Zerdeshts own first name;

Aso...

[Arashi]

I have a question about Zoroastrians in Iran. What kind of name they give to their children ? Only "Iranian" names like Khosrow, Shahpûr, etc, some "muslim" names also, or have they special names related to their religion ?

Yeah. Shapur, Jamshid, Ardeshir, Arash, Koroush, Dariosh, Aryan, Arzhan, etc...I've yet to meet a Zoroastrian called Mohammad or Abdul, except for converts...they tend to be funny

There are a few "Zoroastrian" names aswell...Like Soshyant (though I'm not sure people name their children that), Samyar, Poroucista, Tina, Vesta, Jamasb, etc...

You forgot Zerdeshts own first name;

Aso...

I've actually never met a Zoroastrian named Aso - have you?

[Diri]

No - but then again, neither of us have met all Zerdeshtî's... And Aso was the name of he whom is given the title "Zerdesht"...

[womanizer]

we still have Aso nam ein kurdistan is very common i think

@Arashi
since you zerdust my question to you, how come most zerdust followers look like indians dark peoples? i know most they flee persia after islam and they went india. what is now pupulation of zerdust belivers in persia?

[Arashi]

we still have Aso nam ein kurdistan is very common i think

@Arashi
since you zerdust my question to you, how come most zerdust followers look like indians dark peoples? i know most they flee persia after islam and they went india. what is now pupulation of zerdust belivers in persia?

I thought you explained that pretty well in another thread. That's because we are curry smelling uncivilized Indians, who stole the religion of the Divine Kurds. The only reason some of us are "whiter", is because a few Kurds felt sorry for us and granted us their oh so pure, godworthy blood. Still to this day we pray to Ahura Mazda, thanking him for the privilage of learning manners and honor from Kurds. Oh, womanizer, you are above me. *averts his eyes towards the ground* You do know another word for God in Dari is Kurda?

Now I'm sorry, I have a date with a pot of curry and a cow.

[womanizer]

@Arashi

Acceptance is very important, those who carrying so called Iranian thing, they trying desperately legitimize their racist and haters toward kurds, would ultimately create more haters and division toward ethnic Persian and hindos what ever they are. For us as Kurds we proud as great race and nation the children of Medes, Mitanies, Guties..we do don’t tolerated propels occupying our country denying our very existence then starting telling us oh well we are the same..no we not and never will be, and those who insisting will be punished for their crime oneday, and all those nonsense so called historical fact will be adjusted when Kurdistan get independent. So as we will have respect for Chinese or Italian or anyone in world we will have same mutual respect and understanding to our neighbors.
However through dialogue and communication w can communicate as two nation bases, as citizen of two different countries, Kurdistan, and Persia(if you liked u can still called your Persia as Iran..no harm).
Therefore those bagger who bring historical argument son of this or that, they closing the communication doors.. time has change , but unfortunally mentality of so called irani pepopls still they same. we not shy and heroic warriors and their guardian anymore who time to time saying who well kurds are nice and that and you my brother..blah blah..that is no longer is valid. Samadam plastination used to calle kurds the son of sallahedin Eyubi, our real borthers…because it is work for them, in turkey until recently they shamelessly they call Kurds maintain Turks, and still insisting Kurds as hero of Turkish country as good turks…with so many history balah boundeding it…what cheap baggers..all this races exactly talking same language the languge is denial, suppression destruction, assimilation..you name it……
but today our nation aware of those cheap propaganda of Iranian, Turks and Arabs paranoia, because we know how we been cheated
I seen some your interesting staff about Kurdish religion of Zerdust, is interesting, that is why I asked you about it..i am sorry my other post on other matters wasn’t directed to you .

[Arashi]

Zoroastrianism is a reformation of ancient Aryan-plateau religions. You should ask a Kurd about this "Kurdish religion". I am just a simple curry-eating brownie. Also, if I understood Diri correctly, he was a Kurd according to old Kurdish oral tales...which does not say much to me, as there were different ethnicities living in Medea or at that time the Iranian empire, and each of them have different stories... Sticking "the Kurdish Religion" up every Zoroastrian's face is very immature and "chauvinistic" of you. Zardoshti does not belong to anyone. It is the outcome of thousands of years of religion from Aryans, Pre-Aryans, Elamites, etc...
As to Zoroastrians in Iran, they are not darkskinned. My complexion is fair and I look like a regular Persian. Parsis in India have mixed with the local population to a certain extent - they were not supposed to according to a deal they made with the Indian leaders a millenia ago. Many Hindus have converted to Zoroastrianism aswell. The population of Zoroastrians in IRAN is small, about 50 000, comprised to communities in Yazd, Kerman and Tehran.

As for your other post, what would you say if I in one post said "Kurds suck, I hate Kurds, they will never have Kurdistan, Iran forevah, muhahaha, you are all semites, bla bla bla", and then come back and say "hihi, that post was not directed at you"?