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Analysis: Syria in response walk in the footsteps of KRG

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:21 pm

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Erbil, July 22 (Rn) - In a qualitative development is remarkable withdrew most of Syrian troops from border outposts along the border with the Kurdistan region of Iraq, at a time when witnesses the control of the Democratic Union Party is close to the PKK as a number of these stations.

In this regard, newspaper (trumpeter) Dutch newspaper on Sunday that the Kurds Syria may have traces in the footsteps of the Kurdistan region, which succeeded in establishing a buffer zone after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990, and succeeded in immunizing itself from military developments and security incidents in Iraq since that time , and reinforced after 2003, focusing on the development of the region through the construction and establishment of a military force to protect the territory of any developments in a military emergency.

And was a member of the Union of Democratic Forces of Kurdish in Syria, Ibrahim Murad announced to the media yesterday that most of the Syrian border outposts on the borders of the Kurdistan region pulled out of Syrian military forces, pointing out that these stations are still empty and not yet controlled by any party.

Did not rule out the newspaper that the Kurdistan region may have "trained cadres of administrative and even armed elements of the Kurds Syria, in order to qualify them to manage their areas in a move that indicates the coordination between the territory of Kurdistan and the Kurds of Syria, and this raises the concern of regional parties, including Iraq, Turkey and Iran."

According to the newspaper, it "increases the likelihood of a Kurdish state and sprawling in the future, despite the difficulty that observers see achieved in the near future."

In this regard, the writer says the struggle of Mahmoud Karim talking to the agency, Kurdistan News (Rn) that concerns the establishment of a Kurdish state is just a "Thualat media is very much like the same method, which is rumored for the Kurdistan region of Iraq, too, particularly regarding the right of self-determination and the fear of war nationalism. "

He continues, "in order to discourage the Kurds for their ambitions in gaining their legitimate rights to freedom and emancipation under the democratic regimes that respect human rights and options to live peacefully with the means of expression in the elections and referenda free and fair away from authoritarianism, guardianship and exclusion, so you see them taking pictures of Neil of the Kurdish people in Western Kurdistan (Syria) that it will make a difference leads to a geopolitical wars or social or political chaos. "

The observers that the presence of the opposition's agenda is divided between the secular and radical nationalists and Islamic fundamentalists, has been reflected in the Cairo Conference of the Parties to the Syrian opposition, foreshadowing a length of the face may be extended for years, requiring the nationalities and denominations to insulate itself and prepare for any emergency.

And on the same level does not see Abdel-Azim Mahmoud Hanafi Egyptian writer and professor of political science at talking to (Rn) that "the Kurds in Iraq and Syria are trying to secede and unite the difficulty that at the present time, an attempt to strike the struggle of peoples to establish a state of freedom, justice and citizenship."

He adds, "There is talk in the direction of inflating fears, but there are those who forget, or forget that the Kurds are the victims of a crisis of legitimacy of Arab regimes which Thtoém and attributes that gave them political marginalization and economic deprivation."

And increases by saying "the crisis the result of several factors including: the failure Test National Development and the loss of much of the gains to maintain the continuation of the system with the corruption pattern rule in the absence of some of its institutions and the corruption of the relations between the institutions of governance and in particular relations of control and accountability. Institutions exist in legal terms, it Off to function original with the growth of two functions army, police and their growth becoming cancerous, so devices to protect the compelling force structure controls the capacity of the community and suppresses Asva people. "

According to the Hanafi, the "Compendium of political experience in those systems is to replace fear by intimidation."

For his part, Mahmoud Alonda writer refers to in his speech (Rn) that "the right of the Kurds in Iraq support the people of their nationality in Syria, and that the formation of a Kurdish region in Syria is a natural right, under federal or any other form of state chosen by the people through the ballot ".

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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:43 pm

what happens in qamishlo ???

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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: brendar » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:15 pm

hevalo27 wrote:what happens in qamishlo ???


Honestly, kurdish news agencies are terrible in distributing news in all 4 parts of kurdistan!
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:00 pm

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KNC Leader: Kurds demand decentralism in Syria

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:30 pm

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Stockholm, July 24 (AKnews)- It is early for talks over autonomy for Kurds in Syria but the Kurdish population in the country demands a decentralized polity, said a Kurdish political leader.

"The experience of the Iraqi Kurdistan Region and ruling of Kurds in their region has been successful," said Saad Mala, a member of the foreign relations committee of the Kurdish National Council of Syria (KNCS).

Mala added Kurds of Syria demand the same decentralized polity of the Iraqi Kurdistan Region for ruling their own region in Syria.

He continued "decentralism is the best system of rule for the sectarian and ethnic components of Syria…it also prevents unilateralism and dictatorship."

As for training Kurdish fighters from Syria in the Iraqi Kurdistan Region, Mala said the Kurdish political parties of Syria supports the training in the interest of protecting the Kurdistan of Syria.

"But so far these forces have not been exploited," the leader said.

Speaking to al-Jazira net, Kurdistan Region President Massoud Barzani said that there is a training base for the Kurdish fighters from Syria. He added the fighters are trained to protect Kurdish
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: brendar » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:57 pm

I do not know what decentralism means, but all i know is that Western Kurdistan have to declare autonomy. Either Autonomy or Dictatorship.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: diako_ber » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:05 pm

brendar wrote:
hevalo27 wrote:what happens in qamishlo ???


Honestly, kurdish news agencies are terrible in distributing news in all 4 parts of kurdistan!


The kurdish versions are better though, it is just that the English versions are inadequate. For example that of rudaw.net, the Kurdish version is updated more often
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:05 pm

brendar wrote:I do not know what decentralism means, but all i know is that Western Kurdistan have to declare autonomy. Either Autonomy or Dictatorship.



decentralism means federal state like iraq, a state within a state.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: ideas » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:06 pm

President Talabani is apparently keeping good ties with the Alawites and Assad. Why? my personal belief is that the Kurdish leadership is aware of the fact that the Alawites may restore the Alawite State of the French mandate in the mountainous and coastal areas around Latakia. If that is the case, Kurds may have another neighbor to trade with and hence ease the Turkish chain on us, and the fact that the ruling AKP has lost all sympathy in the Syrian Alawite regions just helps the case. The Kurds in Iraq are masters of the divide and conquer tactic and have used it effectively in Iraq since 2003 (Something the US officials admitted in a document on wikileaks).

Talabani is wise and so is Barzani. The Kurdish house is united and that is evident from the continuous unification process in Kurdistan. However we must keep every door open! and seize any opportunity, and to have an opportunity there must be an open route.

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Newly elected Kurdish mayor of Kubani

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:09 pm

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Syrian Kurdish moves ring alarm bells in Turkey

PostAuthor: brendar » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:10 pm

Oh my beloved terrorist turks are really hurt =)) They are getting heart attacks.

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Concerns are surfacing in Turkey about the growing influence in northern Syria of a Kurdish group linked to Kurdish separatists fighting Ankara, something Turkey fears may further complicate efforts to solve its intractable Kurdish problem.

Syria's Kurdish areas have been largely spared the worst of the violence in the 16-month-old revolt against President Bashar al-Assad, and Syrian Kurds see a chance to attain the freedoms enjoyed by their ethnic kin in neighboring northern Iraq.

Pictures of Kurdish flags flying over buildings and being waved by Kurds in northern Syria have attracted wide coverage in Turkish media and prompted commentators to mull the possibility that Kurds could carve out an independent state there.

Kurdish opposition figures say Assad's forces pulled out of areas of Hassaka and Aleppo provinces, leaving control of them to the Democratic Union Party (PYD) - linked to the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK +1.62%) which has fought a 28-year separatist conflict in Turkey in which more than 40,000 people have died.

"In some places, the Syrian regime handed over power to the PYD (Democratic Union Party) and withdrew," Abdelbasset Seida, head of the opposition Syrian National Council (SNC), said after meeting Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu on Monday.

The Syrian towns of Amuda, Derik, Kobani and Afrin have been reported to be under PYD control. The reports could not be confirmed due to Syrian restrictions on media access.


The assertion of control by the PYD, which denies any association with the PKK, has led to squabbles and even armed clashes with the other main Kurdish political group, the Kurdish National Council, and other Syrian rebel factions.

Syrian opposition figures have accused the PYD of acting as enforcers for Assad, putting down demonstrations in Kurdish areas and assassinating anti-Assad activists, most notably Mashaal Tammo, a charismatic Kurdish leader. He was killed last year as he organized an anti-Assad political coalition.

Assad's father, the late Hafez al-Assad, for years sheltered PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan before the threat of a Turkish invasion in 1998 forced him to send Ocalan abroad, where Turkish agents eventually captured him and brought him back to Turkey.

As Turkish-Syrian relations improved, Bashar al-Assad cooperated with Ankara by cracking down on PKK elements hunkered down in Syria, but those ties disintegrated last year after Assad deployed military forces to crush popular unrest.

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Turkish officials have not expressed concerns publicly about the PYD's influence. A foreign ministry official said Davutoglu warned the SNC about risks of sectarian conflict or civil war.

Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay played down the Syrian Kurdish issue when asked by reporters on Tuesday whether he was concerned by the raising of Kurdish flags and if he was concerned that a Kurdish state could be established.

"We do not have such a concern," he said, rejecting the idea that Kurds were now in control. "In some small places there have been flag incidents, but there is no such thing (as the Kurds being in control)."

Seida, a Kurd, emphasized the national unity of Syria, where Kurds make up around one million of the 21 million population.

"We have given the necessary orders so that no flag is raised apart from the flag of Syrian independence. The Kurds are a part of the Syrian national fabric," he said.

But Ankara had been unpleasantly surprised by Syrian Kurdish support for the PKK-linked PYD, according to Deniz Zeyrek of the Turkish liberal daily Radikal.

"The Turkish side sees this as an 'unexpected development' and has started taking steps to stop this becoming a deepening problem for Turkey," Zeyrek said.

He said one option was to get Masoud Barzani, president of Iraq's Kurdistan region, to exert more influence over these groups or for Ankara, now among the states calling for Assad's removal, to cultivate ties with Syrian Kurdish leaders.

Turkey has recently established closer relations with Barzani and the Kurdish regional government as it looks to build on growing business and energy stakes in northern Iraq.

More than 7,000 Syrians have fled growing economic hardship and instability for Iraq's Kurdistan, which has been autonomous since 1991 with its own provincial government and armed forces, but relies on the Baghdad central government for its budget.

Meanwhile, the Turkish opposition is playing on fears of Kurdish independence in Syria.

"Now a new Kurdistan is coming. Syrian Kurdistan is on the doorstep," Muharrem Ince, a leading member of the main opposition Republican People's Party, told reporters.

During his 10 years in power, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan has thrust through reforms, mainly to increase the scope for Kurdish broadcasting and teaching, designed to address the grievances of a minority of some 12 million people.

However, inspired by the example of northern Iraq, many Turkish Kurdish politicians are pushing for political autonomy.

Turkish academic Ihsan Dagi said Turkey needed to clarify its position on the Kurdish problem, having sent "mixed signals" by holding talks with the PKK while enforcing security policies.

"Are you ready for a Kurdish state?" he wrote in the Turkish daily Zaman, saying an autonomous Kurdish administration would take shape in Syria if Assad fell and that even an independent "Western Kurdistan" was possible.

"Kurdish geopolitics are being reshaped in the region. A 'Greater Kurdistan" is no longer just a dream for many Kurds. You may look and find the 'first independent Kurdish state' emerging in an unexpected place - Syria," Dagi said.


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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:17 pm

i have a feeling the same scenario of SK back in the 90s of (50,50) repeating in WK, with PYD ruling half and KNC ruling the other half, which is not bad anyway later down the track it can be united like we saw in KRG only difference is this time KRG is there for WK so it will be much faster and free of a civil war.

FSA: we will not fight our kurdish brothers. :-D.

btw i dont like how PYD forces cover up their faces with those camane , makes them look like chete :?
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:20 pm

Scene in a Kurdish language school in Derik. It was set up four months ago. Kurdish children and youths can now learn how to write and read Kurdish. Two years ago such an act would have brought the Kurdish teachers for up to 10 years into prison.

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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:49 pm

tweeter: The Syrian Ambassador to Cyprus, Lamia al Hariri, has defected & traveled to Qatar according to Al Arabiya.
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:53 pm

#Syria Live: #Kurds cross #Iraq border, some armed, to resist Assad rule http://bit.ly/M7lJCv | #twitterkurds
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