Why has PYD divided Western Kurdistan ? ? ?

[Anthea]

WHY has the PYD segregated Kurds into 3 small unconnected regions of northern Syria - giving them very little hope for survival ?

I suspect there are several reasons behind this including:

Syria will be happy that Kurds have settled for so little - knowing full-well that there is no longer any fear of the Kurds asking for an Independent Kurdistan
Kurds will be happy because they will mistakenly think that they have won - and do not see that they have been manipulated again
PYD will be happy because to the uninformed it might even appear to be an achievement - when it is actually containment

The area of Western Kurdistan was NOT confined to 3 small areas within the north of Syria

At one time Western Kurdistan consisted of the ENTIRE northern region of Syria and even allowed for access to the sea

[Piling]

They did not. Kurdish areas in Syria have always been separated, they are just small spots detached from Northern Kurdistan. For that reason it is quite impossible to imagine a 'Free Rojava'.There is no 'Rojava' : just Efrîn, Kobane, Hassake (Jezireh).

[Anthea]

They did not. Kurdish areas in Syria have always been separated, they are just small spots detached from Northern Kurdistan. For that reason it is quite impossible to imagine a 'Free Rojava'.There is no 'Rojava' : just Efrîn, Kobane, Hassake (Jezireh).

I beg to differ - Kurds were much more widely spread than many people realise - after much research 2 maps have now been developed that show the full extent of the Kurdish land - the one below possibly the correct version - the one underneath that possibly not so explicit

[Piling]

These maps are made by Kurds who took their dreams for reality. Obviously they do not know the real ground.

[Anthea]

YASA Releases Syrian Kurdistan Map 'Western Kurdistan': First stage

The Kurdish Centre for Legal Studies and Consultancy, also known as YASA, released a map of what it described as “Syrian Kurdistan” which marks the borders of the Kurdish territories inside Syria.

According to the map, Syrian Kurdistan, also labeled Western Kurdistan by the Bonn-based center, starts from the village of Ain Diwar in the governorate of Hasakah in the northeast and extends across the Turkish borders till the far northwest near the city of Iskenderun.

The map features major cities in the northern Syria like Dêrik, Rmêlan, Tirbespiyê, Kobanî, and Afrin and the percentage of Kurds, Arabs, and Christians in each of them.



The map does not, however, specify the exact area of Syrian Kurdistan, which, according to the center, is not possible at the moment for security reasons. A second study is to offer more accurate figures.

Based on YASA statistics, the number of Kurds in Syria is estimated at three million, mostly living in the north together with Arab and Christian minorities.

Jian Badrakhan, a YASA senior official, said that although the map may not be in line with the administrative divisions of the Syrian state, it is congruent with the Kurdish presence in the region.

“Kurds have been there for centuries,” he told the Kurdish news website al-Kurdiya News.

“There are very few Arabs and most of them were brought from central Syria by the regime while those belonging to tribes are indigenous. Christians are the also original inhabitants of the region. Some villages west of the Euphrates are inhabited by Turkmen.”

Kurds in Syria, Badrakhan explained, are basically demanding political non-centralism in the areas in which they constitute a majority.

“They will be charge of governing this area together with other minorities, but they will remain part of the state of Syria provided that their rights are recognized on both the local and the international levels.”

Badrakhan said that the Syrian opposition acknowledges the rights of Kurds, but the two parties have not yet reached an understanding as to the system of governance in the pre-dominantly Kurdish areas.

Badrakhan denied that the map exaggerated in linking areas that are interrupted by non-Kurdish presence for as much 40 kilometers like linking the city of Qamishlo,www.ekurd.net named the capital of Western Kurdistan, and the city of Serê Kaniyê in al-Hasakah governorate with the city Afrin in Aleppo governorate and the city of Kobanî in Raqqah governorate.

“We did not link those cities together, but rather traced the natural extension of Kurdish presence and which has resisted all attempts by the regime to change the demographics of the area whether through forcing Kurds out or bringing Arabs in as well as stripping Kurds of the Syrian citizenship.”

According to historical studies, Kurds played an important role in the independence of Syria during the Ottoman era and the French occupation.

Syrian Kurds were granted the right to create their state in the regions they inhabit through the Treaty of Sèvres between the Allies and the Ottoman Empire in 1920. However, the Treaty of Lausanne, signed in 1923, dashed Kurdish hopes after the Allies overlooked their rights in response to Turkish demands.

Copyright ©, respective author or news agency, alarabiya.net

http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/mi ... urd716.htm

[Anthea]

The map below was produced by Dr Jawad Mella - an expert on all things involving Western Kurdistan:



He also has PROOF as to the actual extent of the Kurdish land

I am also looking into some very interesting - and seemingly purposefully hidden facts on Western Kurdistan

[Anthea]

I have always had a strong interest in West Kurdistan - I have always regarded them as the forgotten Kurds - but in truth they were the ignored Kurds - sort of non-people

All the time that the PKK was fighting - the fact that so many thousands of Kurds from the West joined in with the fighting - always seemed overlooked - perhaps deliberately so - but those Kurds from Western Kurdistan fought with the PKK - and died with the PKK - fighting for an Independent United Kurdistan

Now I see that those same Kurds are being manipulated and suppressed yet again

Western Kurdistan will not survive in 3 small cantons - it is not expected to survive independently - once again the Kurds from the West are being tricked - people need to discover the TRUTH about Western Kurdistan

And there are a great deal more than 3 million Kurds in Syria

I and others are trying to find information about a Kurdish mountain on - or near the coast - close to the border of Western Kurdistan

Has anyone any information regarding the Kurdish mountain ?

[Piling]

I wonder what kind of proof would show that regions around Raqqa is Kurdish… Islamist there are not aware of that.

[Anthea]

I wonder what kind of proof would show that regions around Raqqa is Kurdish… Islamist there are not aware of that.

People such as you and I - who are not swayed by Kurdish wishful thinking - will have to take in upon ourselves to investigate further

[Piling]

In his map, Lattakya, Iskenderun and Antakya also are Kurdish ? Lol, until now I naively thought that they were mostly Arabs and Alawis Doe she want to create an Alawi-Kuridsh State ?

[Anthea]

I have noticed a distinct lack of input from the Kurdish users of this forum - I cannot help but wonder if the themselves are unsure as to the actual boundaries of the Western Kurdish region

[Piling]

Most of Kurds do not know Syrian Kurdish areas, It was a small portion of Kurdistan, considered, until now, without a great importance. They had just to support KDP or PUK or PKK and forgot themselves and their own rights. Now they are the focus of the rest of Kurds, and that is the first time. But most of these Kurds never went to Afrin, Kobane Qamishlo.

Even many Western Kurds never went to other parts of Rojava, because they are far from each others and far from central cities like Aleppo or Damascus. I know Many Kurds from Afrin who did not go to Qamishlo, for example, and if you live in Hassake or Amude, you have not necessarily visited Afrin.

There was one city where Western Kurds and Eastern Kurd from Rojava went often to study or to make business : Aleppo, which was a sort a Kurdish capital

Poor Aleppo, so nice city, and what happened ?

[Anthea]

So much has been destroyed - Aleppo could never be rebuilt to its' former glory - probably never even be habitable again

If the fighting stopped tomorrow WHO would pay to rebuild Aleppo and all the other places which have been destroyed ?

I have had friends and students who came from Western Kurdistan - so in that respect I have learnt a lot about the area and the Kurds themselves - for instance - they have suffered even worse suppression and hardship than Kurds in other areas - but those who I have had the pleasure of knowing are the PROUDEST of all the Kurds

I think that the Kurds in both West and North Kurdistan need NEW leaders - because the ones they have at the moment are selling them out - and helping to keep them suppressed