are kurdish men faithful?

[Piling]

I don't know if her job is sticking her to a place but the best thing is to move, change house, address (city if she could) and to not give any information concerning her new place (except the police, of course).

Perhaps if PKK cares of that, it could work : recently in France I heard the case of a young woman who was not allowed to marry the guy she loves because her family wanted another son-in-law. After months and months of terrible conflicts, hevals played the mediators and she could marry the one she wishes (he was in love also).

Sometimes, tyranny has good effects.

Or the best thing that could happen is that guy is going to be involved in a felony, or a crime and go to jail or is expelled.

I don't remember if she let him recognize officially the baby as his progenitor. It was a mistake, in fact (but at this time, she was still hoping he changes his behavior). For the Kurdish community, as muslims, there is a risk they think that the child belongs to the father (though not before 7, but people easily forget that point). In any case I doubt that a such rascal respects a mollah's advice.

[Anthea]

She can contact the kurdish community and tell them her story, maybe they can talk to him. She can get a vakil/wakil. I don't know how it is for kurmanji kurds, but sometimes kurds turn to community leaders and religious leaders to solve matters of dispute.

There are not many Kurds in the area - and all the Kurds think she is to blame because he has told so many lies - he has no shame and he is not religious

I thought about getting one of my friends to talk to him - but they would probably get angry and he could use it against the girl claiming she had made people threaten him

She is treading on eggshells trying not to make matters worse or do anything he could use against her

[Anthea]

I don't know if her job is sticking her to a place but the best thing is to move, change house, address (city if she could) and to not give any information concerning her new place (except the police, of course).

Perhaps if PKK cares of that, it could work : recently in France I heard the case of a young woman who was not allowed to marry the guy she loves because her family wanted another son-in-law. After months and months of terrible conflicts, hevals played the mediators and she could marry the one she wishes (he was in love also).

Sometimes, tyranny has good effects.

Or the best thing that could happen is that guy is going to be involved in a felony, or a crime and go to jail or is expelled.

I don't remember if she let him recognize officially the baby as his progenitor. It was a mistake, in fact (but at this time, she was still hoping he changes his behavior). For the Kurdish community, as muslims, there is a risk they think that the child belongs to the father (though not before 7, but people easily forget that point). In any case I doubt that a such rascal respects a mollah's advice.

You remember correctly - she was hoping he would change - he did change - he got worse

His name is not on the birth certificate but he has asked for DNA tests to prove the baby is his

Now the police and courts are involved she has been told that if she leaves the area the courts could make her move back again

Poor girl cannot cope very much longer

[Piling]

His name is not on the birth certificate but he has asked for DNA tests to prove the baby is his

Is it an obligation in UK to accept a DNA test ? In France, not at all, even if a woman claims that a man is her child's father, he can refuse the test.

It happens to one of our worst former Justice ministers, Rachida Dati. She wanted money from a French rich businessman claiming her daughter is his. He denied it but refusing to have a test and she can do nothing

By the way, contraception and/or emergency pills can really prevent such problems…

[Anthea]

His name is not on the birth certificate but he has asked for DNA tests to prove the baby is his

Is it an obligation in UK to accept a DNA test ? In France, not at all, even if a woman claims that a man is her child's father, he can refuse the test.

It happens to one of our worst former Justice ministers, Rachida Dati. She wanted money from a French rich businessman claiming her daughter is his. He denied it but refusing to have a test and she can do nothing

By the way, contraception and/or emergency pills can really prevent such problems…

The poor girl thought she was in love with this charming handsome man - she thought he was really kind and caring until she found out about all his many other girlfriends - then she found out about the violence

Turns out that he had been trying to get a girl pregnant just so that he could remain in the UK - she was the first of his harem to fall pregnant

If I was her mother I would cut his wedding tackle off

In UK the court can order a DNA test

[Piling]

In UK the court can order a DNA test

If France could order it, François Hollande would be in a great trouble

[talsor]

You people are messed up in the head including the sadkurdishlover. Being a cheater (according to her) or having a violent past (according to her again ) has nothing to do with his parental rights period . No court as far as I know has denied an application for visitation rights and for the child to carry his father's last name except in the cases of serial killers or similar crimes .

it is laughable to see all this sympathy towards this lady , when she is the one preventing the father from seeing his child and she is the one refusing to recognize his parental rights . Imagine if the situation was reversed

[KabirKuhi]

You people are messed up in the head including the sadkurdishlover. Being a cheater (according to her) or having a violent past (according to her again ) has nothing to do with his parental rights period . No court as far as I know has denied an application for visitation rights and for the child to carry his father's last name except in the cases of serial killers or similar crimes .

it is laughable to see all this sympathy towards this lady , when she is the one preventing the father from seeing his child and she is the one refusing to recognize his parental rights . Imagine if the situation was reversed

I don't think it's fair man. He was using her and he was cheating with multiple women. This is sociopath behavior and it's shunned in our culture and religion. Even Islamic law which allows polygamy, asks the man to be honest and to treat his wife accordingly and equally, and he should not marry/court women if he cannot support them and be equally fair to them. Now I don't know if she is telling us the entire story, but from what it sounds on face value, it's quite bad and he's acting like a sociopath. If you cannot behave with honor and dignity, you shouldn't raise children. The west overwhemingly values womens rights, but in this case I think her actions are justified. If it was your crazy estranged wife, threatning you and threatning to kill your/child you'd be angry. I know I'd be very ruthless in such a situation.

[Anthea]

You people are messed up in the head including the sadkurdishlover. Being a cheater (according to her) or having a violent past (according to her again ) has nothing to do with his parental rights period . No court as far as I know has denied an application for visitation rights and for the child to carry his father's last name except in the cases of serial killers or similar crimes .

it is laughable to see all this sympathy towards this lady , when she is the one preventing the father from seeing his child and she is the one refusing to recognize his parental rights . Imagine if the situation was reversed

talsor you have failed to understand - he does not really want the access to the baby - he wants to use the baby so that he can remain in the UK - once he obtains that right he will not even bother to see the baby

He is working here illegally - he is violent and hits women as well as men - he might even have a wife in Turkey - he has threatened the girl so many times that the police have given her a special alarm - he has even threatened the baby's grandparents - he has also threatened to kidnap the baby

Yet you think this innocent girl is wrong for wanting to protect her baby - perhaps you beat the women in your life and think it is the right thing to do

[talsor]

talsor you have failed to understand - he does not really want the access to the baby - he wants to use the baby so that he can remain in the UK - once he obtains that right he will not even bother to see the baby

I totally understand , but the problem is that you have the habit of making up stories and truly believing it . She mentioned in several occasions that he was trying to make up with her and wanting access to the child but she refused due to lack of trust . Now , she does not want to be with him is perfectly fine , but to deny his connection to his own flesh and blood is crazy . To humiliate the guy even further she registers the child as fatherless "unknown father" .
You do not know what it means to have a child , because you have none , but if any one try to prevent me from seeing my children they can be sure that i will turn life to a living hell and more . By the way only Sick and twisted minded people would think that he is using the child to stay in England . Again it is her say only .

He is working here illegally -

how is that your business ? and what does it have to do with the child ? Do you expect him to starve and sleep in the street ?

he is violent and hits women as well as men -

Again it is her say and do you honestly believe that she would say something nice about him ?

he might even have a wife in Turkey

or possibly 5 Goats , he might even have a cow too . Are you listening to yourself ? why make up thinks when there is nothing to substantiate it .

he has threatened the girl so many times that the police have given her a special alarm - he has even threatened the baby's grandparents - he has also threatened to kidnap the baby

I do not blame the guy one bit . She prevent him from seeing his child and register the child as fatherless then act like a victim you on the other hand play the drums and the cello of how evil men are

Yet you think this innocent girl is wrong for wanting to protect her baby

Protect the child from what ? , honestly you are not normal , the guy is the baby's father or is that too hard to understand .

- perhaps you beat the women in your life and think it is the right thing to do

I totally understand your past and what you have been through , but you should not generalize and label all men as being evil . By doing so , you have doomed yourself to a loneliness and childless life . Have not you learned by now ?

[Anthea]

I believe SadKurdLover because that is what she has told us and because of what I was able to confirm for myself

talsor we believe you are a Kurdish man because that is what you lead us to believe - but you are right we should NOT believe anything you say

[talsor]

I don't think it's fair man. He was using her and he was cheating with multiple women. This is sociopath behavior and it's shunned in our culture and religion. Even Islamic law which allows polygamy, asks the man to be honest and to treat his wife accordingly and equally, and he should not marry/court women if he cannot support them and be equally fair to them. Now I don't know if she is telling us the entire story, but from what it sounds on face value, it's quite bad and he's acting like a sociopath. If you cannot behave with honor and dignity, you shouldn't raise children. The west overwhemingly values womens rights, but in this case I think her actions are justified. If it was your crazy estranged wife, threatning you and threatning to kill your/child you'd be angry. I know I'd be very ruthless in such a situation.

I totally agree with everything you said , but as I mentioned it is one sided story , so it all boils down to the child which no one seem to mention .

The entire Family Law when it comes to children is based on 4 words . "Best interest of the child " . The two questions we have to ask ourselves here are :

1-is it right for the mother to prevent the connection between the father and his child ?

1-is it right legally ,morally and culturally for the mother to register the child as being fatherless considering the shame and the stigma associated with that ?

As far as the story goes , she is doing both and yet acting like a victim . Ok lets assume he is a cheater and a loser .... what gives her the right to prevent him from seeing his child ? what gives her the right to register the child as fatherless ?

[talsor]

I believe SadKurdLover because that is what she has told us and because of what I was able to confirm for myself

nice logic anthea

talsor we believe you are a Kurdish man because that is what you lead us to believe - but you are right we should NOT believe anything you say

What ever you were trying say here did not come out right and it is still in your head , so try again

[Anthea]

It in the best interests of a child to live a peaceful carefree life without violence - with one parent who loves and cares for it - rather than have a violent manic of a father in it's life for a few months only to vanish when he has obtained the right to remain in UK

[talsor]

It in the best interests of a child to live a peaceful carefree life without violence - with one parent who loves and cares for it - rather than have a violent manic of a father in it's life for a few months only to vanish when he has obtained the right to remain in UK

You are a feminist by your own admission with really bad experiences when it comes to men . Add to that you are childless and do not know the meaning of being a father or a mother , so frankly your opinion does not mean anything .

To deprive a child from either parents is inhuman and thanks to western laws that almost never happens.