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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:47 am

It reminds me a joke :

An english man travelled for the first time in France. He passed the Manche Sea and arrived in Calais, the first French city he see of all his life.

And the first French woman he see has red hairs.

Then he notes on his travel-note book : "French women have red hairs." :)
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:07 am

Piling wrote:It reminds me a joke :

An english man travelled for the first time in France. He passed the Manche Sea and arrived in Calais, the first French city he see of all his life.

And the first French woman he see has red hairs.

Then he notes on his travel-note book : "French women have red hairs." :)


yea I read somewhere (in an iranian kurdish weekly) a german researcher had come to a region of Kurdistan to study Kurdish Ethinc long time ago (like 80 years ago)
he had gone to just one village where ppl there were tall and had very bright hair collor , and many blue eyes ...he had written in his research "Kurds like Germans are Tall , blha blah ... and their language is simmilar to German ,for sure Kurds are a branch of German Ethinc !and actulay they maybe be the root of the germans or they may have immigirated from germany to kurdistan... in ancient times"
while he hadnt traveled to other parts ... and missed those Short Black hair Kurds with brown eyes.
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PostAuthor: missIndependent » Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:08 pm

Piling wrote:It reminds me a joke :

An english man travelled for the first time in France. He passed the Manche Sea and arrived in Calais, the first French city he see of all his life.

And the first French woman he see has red hairs.

Then he notes on his travel-note book : "French women have red hairs." :)


huh??? was that to reply my previous post??? :roll:
i dont see how it made u remembering something like that, no offence sweets..
anyways, the joke was nice! :roll: :lol:
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:41 pm

Maybe some Kurdish tribes in the south, but not Kurdish tribes in northern Kurdistan. And definitely not Yezidi Kurds.

Ok I’ll give you some air. Let say its possible for other races to join a Kurdish Yezidi race.

We have got 3 classes in our social life. Sheiks, pirs and miriden. I belong to normal people miriden. Sheiks and pirs are our religious leaders.
Intermarriages are forbidden among these 3 different groups. It better to marry to other race or other nationality then marry if you are a mired to sheiks or pirs.
So with class those “Arabs” joined to? Were those people real Arab or “lost” Kurds or Iranians or Turkomen etc.

What was the name of those “Arabic” tribes which joined Yezidi Kurds. So I want to know the names.

And what was the name to which Yezidi tribes they joined. We have got hundreds Yezidi tribes and clans. It’s theoretical impossible that strangers joined all Yezidi tribes in over all Kurdistan and in all villages high in Kurdish villages.

So I want also hear the names of Yezidi tribes to which “Arabs” joined to.

Names of Arabic tribes and names of Yezidi tribes.
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:42 pm

The Yezidi Kurds in Georgia and Armenia can be divided into two main groups: The Zuquri Yezidis from the province of Wan and the Yezidis from the province of Qers and Axbaran. Among the Yezidi communities of Armenia and Georgia there are big tribes and unions of tribes such as the "el" of the Zuquriyan, of Sipkan, of Mehemdan, of Rojkan and of Hesiniyan.

NAMES OF YEZIDI KURDS' TRIBES AND CLANS AND THEIR PLACES OF ORIGIN IN TURKEY

1. Axleri: Said to be Yezidis from the household of Kok-axa. They are from the house of Evdal-axaye Deshti, from the house of Mir Choban. They had 366 villages. They lived in Ebex then moved to Entab. The descendants of Kok-axa are called Axleri. They are related to the Mehemediya tribe. It is said that they are originally from Mamresh. Among the Axleris there are also Torina mentioned below.

2. Aloqi--Aroqi: Related to the Rojkan tribe mentioned below.

3. Alomeri: Related to the Rojkan tribe mentioned below. They remained in the province of Qers.

4. Anqosi: From Bisheriye plain--"The Anqosi Country"--between the cities of Diyarbekir--Cizira Botan [both in north Kurdistan] and Shengal [in south Kurdistan] It was a big and powerful tribe. During the uprising in the 1830's under the leadership of Sheikh Mirzaye Anqosi over Ms Shirin Anqosi against the governor of Diyarbekir, Reshid Pasha, 500 Anqosi villages were evacuated and the tribe was dispersed. Some Anqosis moved to Qers and settled in the villages of Tendurek and Seriblaxe; a little later they packed up and moved to the district of Axbarane in Armenia. They are called "The Anqosis from Axbaran." A larger group of the Anqosis remained in the Bisheriye plain and in Sert [Siirt in official maps-Translator]. 20-30 years ago they all moved and settled in Germany. Only the converts--or the assimilated--Anqosis remain in Turkey. The author of this book, Kereme Anqosi, is from the single Anqosi household among the Mendesoran clan of the Zuquriyan tribe in the Seyidibege village in the province of Wan. This household is originally from the house of Hamid--axa of the Anqosis in the village of Kochika Gumerte in the Bisheriye plain. The second household of the Anqosis was in the village of Haceliye (Wan). For this reason, an Anqosi clan in the south Caucasus is divided into two groups: The Anqosis of Axbarane (province of Qers) and the Anqosis of the Zuquris (province of Wan) (for further information see the Anqosis in Germany below).

5. Eslani: They lived in the district of Surmeliye, province of Qers.

6. Beyinduri: They lived in the villages of Sineke, Ebexe, Zore, Tendurek, Sariblax, [and] Asar in the province of Qers. They are divided into Sefoya, Miridiya, Mirzoya, Childergushi [and] Avashi. Among the Beyinduris there are also Torina--see below.

7. Belekeri: They are grouped into two: The Belekeris of the Zuquri and the Belekeris of Qers. They lived in the villages of Shemsedin, Chibuxliye, Xoceqishlaxe in the province of Wan. In the province of Qers they lived in the villages of Zore, [and] in the district of Bazide in the villages of Kundo, Tutek, [and] Diyadin.

8. Beli: They lived in Ebexe, province of Qers. Divided into Ozoyi, Beshoyi, Alxoyi, Nexoyi

9. Benoki: They lived in the province of Qers.

10. Beravi (Baravi): Divided into two groups: The Beravis of the Zuquris and the Beravis from Qers. In the province of Wan they lived in the villages of Kanisarke, Dercemeda Jorin, Dercemeda Jerin [and] Nanpareze. In the province of Qers they lived in the villages of Kosa-Sogutli. The Beravis are divided into the clans of Shami, Pirpiriki, [and] Chilxenceri. According to some, the Beravis originally lived around the Persian Gulf and later moved north to settle in the provinces of Qers and Wan.

11. Bashsiz: Lived in the province of Qers. Towards the end of the 19th century they settled in the north western foothills of Mt Elegeze.

12. Bezik: Lived in the province of Qers. They came from Iran.

13. Buvki: Related to the Heseniyan tribe--(see below.)

14. Budi: Related to the Heseniyan tribe--(see below). Lived in the Sineke village in the province of Qers.

15. Butki (Budki): Divided into two groups: the Butkis of the Zuquri and the Butkis from Qers. In the province of Wan they lived in the village of Hecaliye. In the province of Qers they lived in the village of Sineke. The Butkis are Mehemdins from the Mehemdine plain near Lake Van.

16. Bufki: Related to the Heseniyan tribe (see below). They lived in the Sineke village in the province of Qers

17. Cilki: ?

18. Childergushi: Related to the Beyinduri tribe (see above)

19. Chilxenceri: Related to the Shami tribe (see elsewhere). Among them, there is the clan of Eliavdeli.

20. Chili: Related to the Sipkan (see elsewhere). They lived in the villages of Duzgechi [and] Qizilqule in the province of Qers.

21. Chuxreshi (Choxreshi, Choreshi): Divided into two groups: The Chuxreshis of the Zuquris and the Chuxreshis of Qers. In the province of Wan, they lived in the villages of Muche [and] Becermau. In the province of Qers, they lived in the villages of Tashnike Tendureke, Remequli [and] townships of Surmeliye [and] Bazide.

22. Dasini: A clan with a reputation and a long history. The majority remains in south Kurdistan (Iraq). The Dasinis in Armenia are divided into two groups. The Dasinis of the Zuquri and the Dasinis of Qers. In the province of Wan, they lived in the village of Gihadine. In the province of Qers, they lived in the villages of Qizilce [and] Kundo. They say the Dasinis and the Dodkan are connected.

23. Daudi [Davidian]: They come from Xezaliye in the province of Entabe. From the village of Tembate in Alashkerte they moved to the village of Tendureke. Daudi, Mirangi, Mendesori, Geluti [and] Yeknavi are connected.

24. Divin: Divided into two groups. The Divinis of the Zuquri and the Divinis of Qers. In the province of Wan they lived in the village of Kanisarke. The Divinis of Qers lived among the Sipkan tribe.

25. Dodki: Originally, they lived in Shengale in south Kurdistan and Entab. Later they migrated and came to the province of Qers. Their village was Sineke. They are divided into Shetroyan, Shekoyan, Xidoyan, Gerdenzeran, Dirboyan, Maroyan, Kochoyan, Mistoyan, Sheveshan [and] Xetivan

26. Gabeleki: Related to the Rojkan tribe. (see elsewhere)

27. Galiki: ?

28. Gelduri: They are the Zuquris. They lived in the province of Wan.

29. Geluti: They lived in the province of Qers. Gelutiyan, Yeknavan, Mirangan, Daudiyan, Mendesoran are connected.

30. Gerdenzeri: Related to Pivazan (see elsewhere). They lived in the province of Qers. Divided into Kasoyan, Poxan [and] Gencan.

31. Geloyi: They lived in the province of Qers, in the foothill of Mt Ararat.

32. Gukasi: Related to Pivazan. Divided into Dirboyan, Eceman [and] Bekoyan.

33. Hebuki (Hevuki): Related to the Rojkan tribe (see elsewhere). Lived in the province of Qers.

34. Hesini: They are called the "Usib-beg tribe". In the province of Qers, they lived in the villages of Sineke, Tendureke [and] Eslaniye (Eslanlu). Their leader was Hesen-axa of the house of Usib-bege. Divided into Mamudoki, Muski, Udi, Bufki, Budi, Buvki [and] Koxoyi.

35. Heweri: They lived in Entabe in the province of Qers. They are the Mehemdis.

36. Isadizi: Related to the Sipkan (see elsewhere). They lived in the villages of Enguk, Kosa-Sogutli, Baceli [and] Susiz.

37. Keloshki: Related to the Rojkan tribe (see elsewhere).

38. Kendali: They are from the Pivazan tribe. A group of the Kendals see themselves distinct [from Pivazan] and say they are related to the Mamreshan. In the province of Qers they lived in the villages of Sineke, Zore, Ebexe [and] Elashkerte.

39. Keri: Related to a clan of the Beleker of the Zuquris. They are from the province of Wan.

40. Korkiti: They are Zuquris. They lived in the villages of Welican, Chibuxli, Haceliye [and] Shivekar. A group of the Korkitis lived in Iran. A few Korkitiyan households lived in the villages of Dize, Quzurqule near the city of Bazide (Qers). There are the Korkitis of Zuquri and Korkiti of Qers. They are divided into Mamxashi, Heyidoyi, Gedoyi, Etoyi [and] Mevroni.

41. Korkoti: They lived in the village of Qubik on the plain of Ebexe (Qers). For a long time, they lived among a clan of the Belas (see elsewhere). Hence, they are called Beli. They then divided into clans Sheme Emo, Sheme Silo, House of Fero, Xume Evil, Huse Romo, Xudedaye Xishman.

42. Kurtiki: Related to the Zurqi tribe. They lived in the province of Wan, in the villages of Pishikumbet, Shivekor [and] the township of Begribe. They are divided into Xoceliyan, Gasoran [and] Daudiyan. The Kurtikis who have long settled in the province of Yerevan are called Daudi.

43. Kashaxi: They lived in the province of Qers, in the villages of Sineke,
Entabe, Tendureke, Badili, Sariblaxe, Qaziqoplane, Qiznefer, Dimsiz, Qerelix, [and] Heshari [and] the township of Surmeli. They are divided into Kiroyan [and] Ixoyan.

44. Kileri: They lived in the village of Eguke (Qers). Related to the Sipkan tribe (see elsewhere).

45. Mamesherifi: Related to Ortliyan (see elsewhere)

46. Mamreshi (Memreshi): They are divided into two groups. The Mamreshis of the Zuquris and the Mamreshis of Qers. In the province of Wan, they lived in the villages of Shivekor, Pishikumbet [and] the township of Begribe. The Mamresh from Qers lived in the Sinek village (Qers).

47. Mamtaci: Related to the Sherqiyan tribe. They lived in the villages of Sineke [and] Alashgire. They are divided into two groups: Sheboyi and Shemoyi. A group of the Mamtacs link themselves to the Ortli clan (see elsewhere).

48. Mamudoki: Related to the Hesiniyan tribe (see elsewhere). They lived in the village of Idire in the province of Qers.

49. Maseki: Related to a clan of the Saniyan (see elsewhere). They lived in the villages of Qerekende and Zore in the district of Bazide, province of Qers. The Masekis of the Qerekende village migrated from the province of Wan and therefore they are called Zuquri.

50. Mendesori: Related to the Zuquri tribe. Their villages in the province of Wan were Shemseddin and Seyidibeg. Some of their houses were in Utaye, Haceliye (Wan) and Iran. Many households of the Mendesoran lived in Qers, then moved to the Armenian township of Axbarane and settled in the villages of Quribxaz and Gozeldere. They are called "Teze Mendesori" [New Mendesori]. The Mendesori-Zuquri are divided into Cefiri, Bezeyi, Pilevni, Nemoyi, Botoyi, Mendoyi [and] Elimisri. They say the Mendesoris, Mirangans, Daudiyans, Gelutiyans and Yeknavan are all related. Originally, a clan of the Mendesoris lived in Hekari (Turkey). According to the elders, a clan of the Mendesoran lived in Cizira Botan; then they moved to Qesrike (district of Xosheme), from Qesrike moved on to Qerexesare and from Qerexesare migrated to and settled in Iran. In Iran, they waged long wars, were defeated and dispersed. Following their defeat, a group of the Mendesoran found themselves in the villages of Seyidibege and Shemsedine.

51. Mendiki: Related to the Zuquri tribe. They lived in the villages of Welicaniye, Chubuxliye, Utaye, Shemsedine [and] Xoceqijlaxe, in the province of Wan. A group of them had settled in Tuteke and Ebexe. Their lord and leader was Cangir-axa the immortal, son of Xetip-axaye Mendiki. Divided into Qasimi, Deliki, Memedi, Gabushi, Qachali, (Sherefi?).

52. Mehemdi: They lived in Sinek village in the province of Qers. The Yezidis say, "He who is not Mehemdi is not Yezidi!" Divided into Butkan, Heweriyan, [and] Selmikan. They are all in the plain of Mehemden near Wan.

53. Mehmedi: ?

54. Mexsudi: Related to the Hesiniyan tribe (see elsewhere).

55. Mirangi: They lived in the villages of Tambov, Sinek [and] Kose-Sogutli. They say Mirangan, Daudiyan, Mendesoran, Gelutiyan, [and] Yeknavan are all related.

56. Mishidi: ?

57. Musesani: They migrated from Entab and settled in Qers. They lived in the villages of Chetirholu [and] Enguke in the province of Qers. Also known as Musesaniyan-Shushani. Divided into Shushani, Kuluki [and] Xidoyi. They say the clans of Musesani, Xalti, Recevi, Rojki [and] Pivazi are all related and are all from the Rojkans.

58. Muski: Related to the Hesiniyan tribe. They lived in the village of Zore in the province of Qers.

59. Mixayili: Related to the Sipkan tribe (see elsewhere). They lived in the village of Tendureke. Divided into Xishoyi, Bisheye, Qereyi, Unoyi (Uneyi), Eloyi [and] Iseyi.

60. Miheli: ?

61. Ozmansoyi: They lived in the village of Idire in the province of Qers.

62. Ortli: They lived in the villages of Sineke, Tendureke, Taushane [and] the village of Sariblaxe (district of Surmeliye). Before that, they lived in the plain of Mush and Entab. Divided into Mamudiyan, Eloyah, Ozmanhesoyan, Mamesherifi, Torini, Valoyan, Bacoyan [and] Mamtaci.

63. Pezgevri: Related to the Musesani-Shushani tribe (see elsewhere).

64. Pivazi: Related to the Rojkan tribe (see elsewhere). They lived in Entabe [and] Ebexe in the province of Qers. Divided into these clans: Gerdenzeri, Gukasi, Piran, [and] Kendali. The Pivazis themselves are divided into these houses: Buboyan, Reshoyan, Varoyan, Kekoyan, Nemoyan, [and] Sefoyan. (For more information about the Pivazis see the section on Yezidis in Germany.)

65. Perwari: The lived in Sinek village in the province of Qers.

66. Pipriki: They're a clan of the Shamis (see elsewhere). Divided into the houses of Qasoyan [and] Shemoyan.

67. Qereyi: Related to the Sipkan (see elsewhere). They lived in Entabe in the province of Qers.

68. Quchi: Lived in Sinek village, province of Qers.

69. Recevi: Related to the Rojkan tribe (see elsewhere). They lived in the villages of Tendureke, Digore, Xerbe Digore, Zore, near Qereqola Baro, [and] Kosa-Sogutli. Originally they lived in Entabe. They packed up and moved to the province of Wan and thereafter settled in the province of Qers.

70. Remoshi: They lived in the village of Zoe, province of Qers.

71. Reshi: Related to the Zuquri tribe. They lived in the villages of Yarimqa, Qerecux, Ute, [and] Pishikumbet in the province of Wan. The lord of the Reshis was the house of Simoe Cheto-axa from the village of Yarimqa. The house of Simoe Cheto was in itself a big house. They are divided into Gurki, Sevoyi [and] Kopoyi. The house of Simoe Cheto-axa is Gurki. The Gurkis are divided into Cetoyan, Temoyan (Mirzoyan) [and] Chetoyan (Isoyan). The Sevoyis are divided into Mishkoyan (Usoyan). The Kopoyis are divided into Engloyan, Zemoyan (Usoyan) [and] Cindoyan.

72. Reshki: Related to the Zuquri tribe. They lived in the villages of Hecaliye [and] Shivekor in the district of Begribe in the province of Wan.

73. Rojki: Related to the Rojkani tribe (see elsewhere). They lived in the province of Qers, in Digor. They're divided into Abuki [and] Chekoyi. The Rojki clans Rojki, Recevi, Musesani, (Shushani), Pivazi [and] Xalti are all from the Rojkani tribe. Some say they originally lived around the Persian Gulf. Then, they moved to the province of Mush and later settled in the province of Qers.

74. Sevlani (Selvani): Related to the Hesiniyan tribe (see elsewhere). They lived in the villages of Sineke [and] Sariblaxe.

75. Selmiki: Related to the Mehemdi tribe (see elsewhere).

76. Semilki: ?

77. Sani (Sahani): Lived in the village of Tendureke, Ebexe in the province of Qers. Divided into Kokliyan [and] Hesoyan

78. Sevi: ?

79. Sipki: Related to the Sipkan tribe, they are Sipkanis. They lived in the villages of Digor, Qozlice, Shirinkoyi, Enguk, Sichan, Sorgutlu, Qereqel, Baceli, Emenchayir, Duzgechi, Sevik, Derik, Esmer Meleshemdin, Hoxan, Sinek [and] on the plain of Elashgire, Dersime in the province of Qers. The late, learned Mr Heciye Cindi writes that the Sipkans are from Mosul, Xezaliye (south Kurdistan) and Cizira Botan. The Sipkan tribe is divided into the following clans: Kileri, Uti, Mixayili, Isedizi, Shemsiki, Siturki, Chili, Qereyi [and] Shenederi. The Sipkanis in Armenia and Georgia are divided into two big groups: The tribe of Emer-axa and the tribe of Eli-axa from Sineke.

80. Siturki: Related to the Sipkan tribe. They have been among the Sipkan for a long time. They lived in the villages of Zore, Egugnet, Sariblax, Qulp (Surmeli, Tendurek). A group of the Siturkis lived on the Iranian border. A group remained in the Diyarbekir province, in Sert (Bisheriye). The Siturkis from "the Anqosi country" claim kinship with the Anqosis.

81. Sori: Related to the Zuquri tribe (see elsewhere). Remained in the province of Wan.

82. Shami: Related to the Zuquri tribe. They lived in the villages of Dercemeda jerin, Dercemeda jorin, Kanisarke, [and] Chirax. The Shamis are related to a clan of the Beravi-Beravine. Divided into two groups: Nemetan [and] Sheweshan. The Shamis are divided into two clans: Pirpiriki [and] Chilxenceri (see elsewhere).

83. Shanederi (Shahnezeri): Related to the Spikan tribe (see elsewhere). They lived near the Isadizi clan in the province of Qers.

84. Shariki: They lived in the province of Qers along the river Arakse.

85. Semesorki: ?

86. Shemsiki: Divided into two groups: the Shemsikis of the Zuquri and the Shemsikis of Qers. The Shemsikis of the Zuquri lived in the villages of Kela Xoshabe, [and] Seyidibege in the province of Wan. The Shemsikis of Qers lived in the village of Qazi Qoplan in the district of Surmeli and are related to the Sipkan tribe (see elsewhere)

87. Sherqi: Related to the Hesiniyan tribe (see elsewhere). They lived in the villages of Sineke, Zore [and] Susize.

88. Shunki: They lived in the district of Surmeliye, in the province of Qers.

89. Shushani: They're Musesanis (see elsewhere).

90. Tujki: Related the Sherqis. They lived in the province of Qers.

91. Torini: There are Torini among a clan of the Ortli (see elsewhere). The Torinis from Sineke (the village of Qerek) and Zore (the House of Ozman-axa) are the Beyinduris. (see elsewhere). There are also Torinis among the Axleran (see elsewhere).

92. Udi: Related to the Hesiniyan tribe (see elsewhere)

93. Ulki (Bilki): Related to a clan of the Mendesoris (see elsewhere)

94. Uti: Related to the Sipkani tribe (see elsewhere). They lived in the villages of Digore, Qizilqul (Quzurqul), Emenchayir, Shirinkoyi, [and] Elam in the province of Qers. Divided into Xanoyi [and] Cewari.

95. Xidiri: ?

96. Xalti (Xaldi): Related to the Rojkan tribe (see elsewhere). They lived in the province of Qers. They say that the Xalti, Musesani, Recevi, Rojki [and] Pivazi are all related and all are Rojkanis.

97. Xani: The majority lived in the village of Qizildize, district of Bazide, Province of Qers. A group of Xani households are related to the Zuquris and lived in the village of Pishikumbete in the province of Wan.

98. Yeknavi: They lived in the villages of Sineke [and] Heshariye, district of Surmeliye, in the province of Qers. It is said that the Yeknavis, Gelutis, Mirangans, Daudiyan [and] Mendesoris are all related.

VILLAGES IN TURKEY FROM WHICH THE YEZIDI KURDS IN ARMENIA AND
GEORGIA ORIGINATE


Name of Villages Name of Provinces/Districts

1. Akrak Qers
2. Alashgir Qers
3. Anguzak Wan, Begrib
4. Anzave Wan, Begrib
5. Archak Wan
6. Axurek Wan
7. Ayile Qers
8. Ayila sinco Qers
9. Ebexe Qers
10. Elam Qers
11. Elashkert Qers
12. Emenchayir Qers
13. Emenkoyi Qers
14. Esmer Qers, Bazid
15. Entab Qers, Bazid
16. Eslaniye (Eslanlu) Qers, Surmeli
17. Baceli Qers
18. Badili Qers, Surmeli
19. Bendemurad Qers
20. Becarmau Wan
21. Begrib Wan
22. Bergiri Wan
23. Chetirholu Qers
24. Chirax Wan
25. Chibuxli (Chubuxli) Wan
26. Dercemeda jerin Wan
27. Dercemeda jorin Wan
28. Derik Qers, Bazid
29. Diyadin Qers, Bazid
30. Digor Qers
31. Dimsiz Qers, Surmeli
32. Duzgechi Qers, Surmeli
33. Dutax Qers, Bazid
34. Egugnet Qers
35. Enguk Qers
36. Enikeyi Qers
37. Gihadin Wan
38. Gogermes Qers
39. Gondurme Wan
40. Hecali Wan
41. Heshari Qers, Surmeli
42. Hoxan Qers, Bazid
43. Hesencan Qers
44. Idir Qers, Surmeli
45. Kanisark Wan
46. Kela Xoshabe Wan
47. Keyiseran Wan
48. Korsot Wan, Begrib
49. Kosa sogutli Qers
50. Kundo Qers
51. Kuchuk Keyi Wan
52. Kitane Qers
53. Meleshemdin Qers, Bazid
54. Muche Wan
55. Noke Qers
56. Nosher Wan
57. Ozmankoyi Qers, Surmeli
58. Pishikumbet Wan, Begrib
59. Qaziqoplan Qers, Surmeli
60. Qerecux Wan
61. Qerek Qers, Surmeli
62. Qerekend Wan
63. Qerekos Qers
64. Qerelix Qers, Surmeli
65. Qereqel Qers
66. Qereqend Qers, Bazid
67. Qereque Qers, Surmeli, Idir
68. Qizildiz Qers, Bazid
69. Qizilqul (Quzurqul) Qers
70. Qiznefer Qers, Surmeli
71. Qozluce (Qozilce, Qizilce) Qers
72. Qubik Qers
73. Qulp Qers, Surmeli
74. Quche Qers, Surmeli
75. Remequli Qers, Bazid
76. Saribex Qers
77. Sariblax Qers, Surmeli-Sinek
78. Seydibeg (Seyid Beg) Wan
79. Sevik Qers, Bazid
80. Sintatosh Wan, Begrib
81. Sichan Qers
82. Sinek Qers, Surmeli (There were 7 Yezidi
villages in Sinek)
83. Sogutlu Qers
84. Susiz Qers
85. Shatir Oxli Qers
86. Shemsedin Wan
87. Shenglave Wan
88. Shivekor Wan, Begrib
89. Shirinkoyi Qers
90. Tambat Qers
91. Tashnik Qers
92. Taushan Qers
93. Tendurek Qers, Surmeli
94. Timar Wan
95. Tutek Qers, Bazid-Diyadin
96. Ulikend ?
97. Ute Wan
98. Welican Wan
99. Xereba Digor Qers
100. Xereba Chibuxli Wan, Iran border
101. Xocaqijlax Wan
102. Xoshab Wan
103. Yarimqa Wan
104. Zor Qers, Surmeli



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NAMES OF YEZIDI KURDS' TRIBES IN GERMANY AND THEIR LOCATIONS IN TURKEY

1. Adi: They lived in Weranshehir, village of Xirbe Ali. They are Sherqis (see elsewhere).

2. Amerki: They lived in Sert. They are Qizili (see elsewhere).

3. Anqosi: At one time they lived in the "Anqosi Country" between Sert-Bisheri-Merdin-Diyarbekir-Botan-Shengal. It was a very big and powerful tribe. They waged an intense and historic war against the rulers of Diyarbekir. In defense of the Yezidi religion, they have lost heads and shed blood [in battles]. The Anqosis and their heroism have long been mentioned in history and their valor is praised in songs. During the war against the governor of Diyarbekir over Ms Shirin Anqosi 500 Anqosi tribe villages were destroyed and the tribe dispersed. A group resettled in Wan and Qers. Another group remained in Bisheriye-Sert. The Anqosi leader, Hamid-axaye Anqosi, is from the village of Kuchika Gumerte. In Turkey they lived in these villages in the provinces of Serte-Bisheriye: Enap, Gelok, Kelhok, Canika, Qubildor, Xushena, Hecre, Hecliye, Shirwan, [and] Zerce. Ms Shirin Anqosi's home is in the village of Chiya Hereze between Bitlis-Tutvan in the plain of Rewa. In the villages of Shirwan, Canika (near Sert) and Gulpnar (province of Mush, on the road to Qav village) the converted (assimilated) Anqosis live (see the Anqosi in the Caucasus).

4. Eyinoki: They lived in the province of Merdin, village of Bacin.

5. Basi: They lived in the province of Sert.

6. Bereki: Menduki-Mendiki) They lived in the provinces of Sert and Weranshehr (Urfa), in the village of Minminik. Their ancestors came from Wan, plain of Mehemd. Later they settled in Serhed. They are a Xalti clan.

7. Biliki (Miliki): They lived in the province of Weranshehr (Urfa), in the villages of Gede Naso, Meleqecer, Qori, [and] Hecizeta jer. Divided into these clans: Komirchi, Qerquli, Celoyi, Gelhoyi, [and] Kerdizi. The Bilikis are the Sherqis.

8. Botoki: They lived in the province of Merdin, village of Bacin.

9. Cheleki: They lived in the province of Bisheriye, village of Shasim.

10. Daudi [Davidian]: They lived in the province of Weranshehr, village of Mozika jor, Mozika jer, Gunde Xeribi [and] Xirbe Belek (see the Daudis in the Caucasus).

11. Dela (Dina): They lived in the province of Bisheriye.

12. Deni: They lived in the province of Sert, village of Sewdiq.

13. Himelki: Related to Xendeqi tribe (see elsewhere).

14. Kashaxi: They lived in the province of Merdin.

15. Mas(t)eki: They lived in the province of Weranshehr, village of Birc u Baruc, Baluchu, Axmast, [and] Kewrbel. The Mastekis are the Sherkis (see elsewhere).

16. Menduki (Mendiki): See Bereki above (see Bereki in the Caucasus).

17. Mervani: They lived in the province of Weranshehr, villages of Zewra, Hecizeta jor, Hecizeta jer [and] Fisteq. The Mervanis are Sherqis (see elsewhere).

18. Metin(k)i: They lived in the province of Bisheriye, village of Dushan.

19. Mede: They lived in the province of Bisheriye.

20. Mihoki: They lived in the province of Sert.

21. Mihemedki: They lived in the province of Sert. They are Xalti.

22. Miliki: See Biliki

23. Misurki: They lived in the province of Merdin, village of Bacin.

24. Ozmani: They lived in the province of Bisheriye.

25. Pivazi: First they lived in the province of Sert, villages of Mezrhan, Geliye Shera, [and] Kani Beraza-these are the center of the Pivazis. They were there 160 years ago. Later they moved to Qinaske. When the Russians reached Kevre Qul [in the province of] Bitlis, they moved to Hecliye (Bisheriye). They lived in the province of Weranshehr, villages of Minminik [and] Telteriq; in the province of Bisheriye, villages of Gelok (Kelhok) [and] Hecre; in the province of Diyarbekir, village of Darqule. The Pivazis are Xaltis (see the Caucasus section).

26. Qizili: They lived in the province of Bisheriye, village of Hemduna. There are seven Qizili clans. They are divided into Amerki, Shemsiki, [and] Takori. They say they originate from the Takoris. For a time they lived in the "Xalti Country." The Qizilis are Xalti (see elsewhere).

27. Qopani: They lived in the province of Weranshehr, village of Ishxen. The Qopanis are Sherqi (see elsewhere).

28. Reshi: They lived in the provinces of Bisheriye, village of Gelo-Kelhok, of Weranshehr, villages of Xirbe Belek [and] Fisteq. The Reshans are Xaltis (see the Reshis in the Caucasus).

29. Reshkoti: They lived in the province of Bisheriye.

30. Shediki:: They lived in the provinces of Sert [and] of Weranshehr, village of Gede. The Shedikis are Xalti (see elsewhere).

31. Shemsiki: Related to the tribe of the Qizilis (see elsewhere).

32. Sherqi: They lived in the province of Weranshehr (Urfa). They are divided into Adi, Biliki, Qopani, Masteki [and] Mervani.

33. Shewliki (Shewriki): They lived in the provinces of Sert [and] Bisheriye, village of Qorix. The Shewlikis are Xalti (see elsewhere).

34. TakoriRelated to the Qizili tribe.

35. Torini: They lived in the province of Weranshehr (Urfa), village of Olexchi.

36. Xalti: They lived in the provinces of Sert [and] Weranshehr, villages of Gede Osman, Telteriq, Mozika jor, Mozika jer, Minminik, Kerma jor, Kerma chem, Hecizeta jer [and] Mozana. Divided into tribes: Shediki, Mihemedki, Pivazi, Bereki (Menduki), Qizili, Shewliki, Reshi. At one time, all were settled in the "Xalti Country." The "Xalti Country" stretched from Sert to Batman and reached Diyarbekir (see the Xaltis in the Caucasus section).

37. Xendeqi: They lived in the province of Weranshehr (Urfa), the Mozika village, [and] in the province of Bisheriye in the villages of Shimze, Shasim [and] Baziwan.

VILLAGES IN TURKEY ORIGINALLY INHABITED BY YEZIDI KURDS IN GERMANY

Name of Village Name of province

1. Asinci Diyarbekir
2. Axmast Weranshehr
3. Bacini Merdin
4. Baluchu Weranshehr
5. Baruch Weranshehr
6. Bashura Sert
7. Batim Merdin
8. Batran Sert
9. Baxchechike Diyarbekir
10. Bazivan Bisheri
11. Berhurik Sert
12. Birc Weranshehr
13. Birakurediye Sert
14. Birguriya Merdin
15. Canika Sert
16. Chachana Weranshehr
17. Chineriya Bisheri (Piran village)
18. Chiya Hereze Diyarbekir
19. Daraqole Diyarbekir
20. Daudi Diyarbekir
21. Diwanke Merdin
22. Dushan Bisheri
23. Erbin Sert
24. Ewshe Merdin
25. Enap (Innap) Bisheri
26. Erenza Shexa Sert (It has a white mill. It was the property of
Mr Heciye Mihe Qizili. There is also the mill of
old Hesmeman)
27. Eyinberave Sert
28. Feqira Bisheri (Piran village)
29. Fisqin Merdin (Piran village)
30. Fisteq Weranshehr
31. Gede Naso Weranshehr
32. Gede Osman Weranshehr
33. Geliye Sheran Sert
34. Geliye sora Merdin
35. Gelok (Kelhok) Bisheri
36. Girebiya Merdin
37. Giresirt Weranshehr
38. Gulpnar Mush
39. Gunde Xeribi Weranshehr
40. Gungik Merdin
41. Hecliye Bisheri
42. Hemduna Bisheri
43. Heyiderqule Diyarbekir
44. Hecizeta jor Weranshehr
45. Hecizeta jer Weranshehr
46. Hecre Bisheri
47. Ishxan Weranshehr
48. Kani beraza Sert
49. Kani revana Sert
50. Kanisark Bisheri
51. Kanisorke Bisheri
52. Kelhok Sert
53. Kevirbel Weranshehr
54. Kezeri Sert
55. Kuner (Kunare) Merdin
56. Kemine Merdin
57. Kerma chem Weranshehr
58. Kerma jor Weranshehr (Piran village)
59. Kefnas Merdin
60. Kivexe Merdin
61. Koch Sert
62. Kochika Gumerte Sert
63. Meleqecer Weranshehr (village of the Feqiris of the
Yeknavis)
64. Merze I Merdin
65. Merze II Merdin
66. Mezrhan Sert
67. Minminik Weranshehr
68. Mozana Weranshehr
69. Mozika jer Weranshehr (Village of Shexisna Sheikh)
70. Mozika jor Weranshehr
71. Olexchi Weranshehr (Village of Mr Evdo son of Bishar-axa
son of Dewreshe Evdi)
72. Qinask Bisheri
73. Qochan Merdin (district of Hezaxe)
74. Qochgire Sert
75. Qorix Bisheri
76. Qori Weranshehr
77. Qubildor Bisheri
78. Qulika Merdin
79. Resha Sert
80. Ridvane Sert
81. Serpir Sert
82. Sewdiq Sert
83. Serwan Merdin
84. Silhe Sert
85. Silexere Bisheri
86. Shasim Bisheri
87. Shimze Bisheri
88. Shirvan Sert
89. Teyivanki Merdin
90. Taqa Merdin
91. Telteriq Weranshehr
92. Ulka Merdin
93. Xanka Shexa Merdin (village of the Sexubekis Sheikh)
94. Xirabiya Merdin
95. Xirbe Ali Weranshehr
96. Xirbe Belek Weranshehr
97. Xushena Sert
98. Zerce Bisheri
99. Zewra Weranshehr

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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:46 pm

THE YEZIDI TRIBES IN THE SHENGAL MOUNTAINS (SOUTH KURDISTAN-IRAQ)

The names of the Yezidi tribes in the Shengal mountains written below are as told by Mr. Xudadaye Pisi a Yezidi from Shengal mountains, in 1991. He then lived in Copenhagen, Denmark. Xudadaye Pisi along with his family fled Saddam Hussein's oppression and found refuge in that city.

According to Xudadaye, son of Pisi, son of Xelef, son of Merdan, son of Qerbit, son of Bado, son of Faris, son of Reben, son of Qaso, there were about 300 Yezidi villages in the Shengal mountains. By Saddam Hussein's order all villages were evacuated.


NAMES OF THE TRIBES

1. Aldigi More than 1,000 households
2. Daska (Chelka) 1,000 households
3. Feqira 1,000 households
4. Hebaba 3,000 households
5. Heleqiya More than 500 households
6. Heska 1,000 households
7. Mendika More than 1,000 households
8. Mehrikan Approx. 2,000 households
9. Qiraniay 2,500 households
10. Simoqi More than 2,000 households
11. Xaltiya (mala xalta) 2,000 households
The Mendika tribe is divided into Havinde Xweriqi, Mala Bashok, Keleshi, Ezoye, Xinoyi, Mala Emo, Shevani.

THE YEZIDI TRIBES IN IRAQ, SYRIA AND TURKEY

The names of the Yezidi tribes seen below were written by the Qewals' elder, Mr. Qewal Sileman Sefo, in a letter to me back in 1973. I have saved it in my archive until today. True, because of the oppression hanging over the head of the Yezidis in these countries, the majority of the tribes have been displaced since then. Nevertheless, I saw the significance of this information and decided to include it in this book and thereby give my thanks to Mr Qewal Sileman Sefo. (The leader of the Qewals, Qewal Sileman Sefo had come to the city of Tbilisi as a guest.)

According to Qewal Sileman, the Yezidi tribes of Iraq (south Kurdistan) are divided into two groups: The tribes of Shexan and Zexo and the tribes of Sincar (Shengal).

THE YEZIDI TRIBES IN THE REGION OF SHEXAN AND ZEXO

1. Bada

2. Bastiki

3. Belsini

4. Bidi memi

5. Cehsani

6. Dena

7. Dumli

8. Hekari

9. Heraqiye

10. Howeyidi

11. Mamosi

12. Maski

13. Musana

14. Peyide

15. Qayidi

16. Reshki

17. Turk

18. Xisiki

19. Xitari

THE YEZIDI TRIBES IN THE SINCARI (SHENGAL) REGION ARE DIVIDED INTO TWO LARGE GROUPS: XORKAN AND CIVANA.
[size=15]THE XORKAN GROUP IS DIVIDED INTO THESE TRIBES


1. Al Dexi

2. Cifri

3. Chilkan

4. Chilkan (Chelki)

5. Dena

6. Fiqera

7. Heliqi

8. Heskan

9. Heweri

10. Kukuka

11. Mendikan

12. Musane

13. Qiran

14. Reshkan

15. Simoqi

16. Sherqiyan

17. Xalti

THE CIVANA GROUP IS DIVIDED INTO THESE TRIBES

1. Hebabat

2. Mala Xalta (Masqura)

3. Mirkan

THE YEZIDI TRIBES OF SYRIA

1. Chilki (Chelki)

2. Dena

3. Resha

4. Suhani

5. Sherqi

6. Shikaki

THE YEZIDI TRIBES OF TURKEY
1. Bazfi

2. Chilka

3. Daska

4. Daudi

5. Maski

6. Mehmudi

7. Resha

8. Sherqi: Adi, Bilki, Mervani, Qobani, Torini

9. Shikaka

10. Xalti

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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:57 pm

So what are the names of “Arabic” tribes who joined to Yezidi Kurdish tribes? And what are the names of those "mixed"Yezidi Tribes?
And where? Which villages, which region, how, why? Wich class? Sheiks, Pirs or miriden?

saying that we're mixed is much easier then to prove it!

last interracial mixing took place 2500 years ago when Medes and other Iranian tribes came to Kurdistan and mixed with Hurrians.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:18 pm

I have not the courage to read all your huge and so boring list of modern tribes... but you seem to have the same fanstam of pure blood than Hilter, no doubt of that.


BUT :

are you aware that Sheikh Adi ibn Musafir was a Arab Quraysh and then all the first leaders of 'Adawiya were Arab until Mughal period ? Do you think that Kurdish sheikh did not marry with Arab descendants of Sheikh Adi 's brother because they were Arabs, though their familuy was honoured more than kings ? Do you know that al-'Adawiya was a great order not only in Kurdistan ? Do you know that Yezidi princes of Jazirah claim to have 'umayyad blood ? Do you know that ancient tribes, Arab or Kurds, were not racists and prefer to marry within the same religion or confederation than within the same "nation" but between different religion ?

OK Yezidi are PURE KURDISH BLOOD (if a such thing exist) So you have to hunt away these Arab sheikhs and sufis in 'Adawiya from you PURE BLOOD people's history :lol:

But it would dangerous for you to make a such test, let's avoid suicide...
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:02 pm


I’m more pure then Germanic and Celtic tribes combined in Adolfs Hitlers wet dreams.


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

You're pure like an LSD caps for sure... man you must have some pretty weird dreams

last interracial mixing took place 2500 years ago


:lol: who was it? name him and her? what position did they adopt for mixing their races?
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:05 pm

What was the name of those “Arabic” tribes which joined Yezidi Kurds. So I want to know the names.

And what was the name to which Yezidi tribes they joined. We have got hundreds Yezidi tribes and clans. It’s theoretical impossible that strangers joined all Yezidi tribes in over all Kurdistan and in all villages high in Kurdish villages.

So I want also hear the names of Yezidi tribes to which “Arabs” joined to.

Names of Arabic tribes and names of Yezidi tribes.


I heard about these arabic tribes joining the Yezidi GROUP (race... :roll: ) in the XVI in a book in the KURDISH INSTITUTE OF PARIS...

It may sound terrible in your crazy aryan dreams, but historically it's not that weird...

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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:13 pm

wow trigan did u type all those ? or u copy pasted them ?
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:49 am

The names of the Yezidi tribes seen below were written by the Qewals' elder, Mr. Qewal Sileman Sefo, in a letter to me back in 1973.


What do you think :mrgreen:
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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:27 am

There is a branch of the Tai Arabs called Hababat, who more than a century ago, on some quarrel with the rest of the tribe, seceded to Sinjar. Their children became Yezids, and the race are now perfect Devil-Worshippers, speaking the language of the Yezids, and in noways distinguishable from them.


in Narrative of a residence in Koordistan and the site of ancient Niniveh; with journal of a voyage down the Tigris to Bagdad and an account of a visit to Shirauz and Persepolis. RICH (Claudius James), London 1836.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:46 am

Concerning the "pure religious Yezidi tribes" :

in 1920s the population of Jabal Sinjar was extremely fragmented in terms of racial and religious composition. Some of the yazidi tribes of Sinjar were fairly heterogeneous communities which generally included a majority of Yazidi tribesmen together with smaller groups of Muslim Kurds, both Sunnis and extremists (ghulat). The largest community of the extremist Shi'is, the Babawat tribe, were so closely related to the Yazidi tribe of the Habbabat that the name of their sections were usually omitted in tribal lists which directly included Babawat tribesmen among the Habbabat. The presence of Yazidis and Muslims in the same tribal units reflects an important feature of of Kurdish tribalism which was represented in Jabal Sinjar. It was particularly evident in mixed tribal confederations living outside the Mountain such as the Milli and the Heverkan which included Muslims, Yazidi and Christians.


in The otehr Kurds, Yazidis in colonial Iraq, Nelida Fuccaro, 1999.
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