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PostAuthor: Piling » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:13 pm

An interesting study about the redrawing of the map in Middle east according to ethnic borders... Click on the map at left to have the changing.

http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/06/1833899
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:34 pm

Tabriz in Kurdistan? :shock: but I love the rest... the "islamic sacred state" doesn't sound very welcoming :lol:
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PostAuthor: missIndependent » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:32 pm

wow! FREE KURDISTAN.. i really like his theories :)

Kurdistan is in the Winner Group, loved his listing:
WHO WINS, WHO LOSES

Winners —

Afghanistan

Arab Shia State

Armenia

Azerbaijan

Free Baluchistan

Free Kurdistan

Iran

Islamic Sacred State

Jordan

Lebanon

Yemen



Losers —

Afghanistan

Iran

Iraq

Israel

Kuwait

Pakistan

Qatar

Saudi Arabia

Syria

Turkey

United Arab Emirates

West Bank



herez some highlights i picked up out of his sayings about kurds:

The most glaring injustice in the notoriously unjust lands between the Balkan Mountains and the Himalayas is the absence of an independent Kurdish state. There are between 27 million and 36 million Kurds living in contiguous regions in the Middle East (the figures are imprecise because no state has ever allowed an honest census). Greater than the population of present-day Iraq, even the lower figure makes the Kurds the world's largest ethnic group without a state of its own. Worse, Kurds have been oppressed by every government controlling the hills and mountains where they've lived since Xenophon's day.

The U.S. and its coalition partners missed a glorious chance to begin to correct this injustice after Baghdad's fall. A Frankenstein's monster of a state sewn together from ill-fitting parts, Iraq should have been divided into three smaller states immediately. We failed from cowardice and lack of vision, bullying Iraq's Kurds into supporting the new Iraqi government — which they do wistfully as a quid pro quo for our good will. But were a free plebiscite to be held, make no mistake: Nearly 100 percent of Iraq's Kurds would vote for independence.

As would the long-suffering Kurds of Turkey, who have endured decades of violent military oppression and a decades-long demotion to "mountain Turks" in an effort to eradicate their identity. While the Kurdish plight at Ankara's hands has eased somewhat over the past decade, the repression recently intensified again and the eastern fifth of Turkey should be viewed as occupied territory. As for the Kurds of Syria and Iran, they, too, would rush to join an independent Kurdistan if they could. The refusal by the world's legitimate democracies to champion Kurdish independence is a human-rights sin of omission far worse than the clumsy, minor sins of commission that routinely excite our media. And by the way: A Free Kurdistan, stretching from Diyarbakir through Tabriz, would be the most pro-Western state between Bulgaria and Japan.
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:59 pm

the most pro-Western state between Bulgaria and Japan.


??? Poor Israel! Poor Turkey, Poor Armenia and Georgia :lol:

And Tabriz is not kurdish last time I checked... I don't even think kurds revendicate it!
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PostAuthor: missIndependent » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:07 pm

And Tabriz is not kurdish last time I checked... I don't even think kurds revendicate it!

no, Tabriz is Azeri, they dont belong to us, they aint kurd at all, i was surprized too :shock: but well, i dont mind havin them under Kurdistani regime for awhile :twisted:
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:20 pm

yea nice flag but the Kurdistan map is a bit small from South East...[there is no ilam in this map] and a bit is bigger in north east..[tabriz is not kurdish]
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:23 pm

have they forgotten turkmenstian in north east iran ?
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:45 pm

tomjez wrote:
the most pro-Western state between Bulgaria and Japan.


??? Poor Israel! Poor Turkey, Poor Armenia and Georgia :lol:

And Tabriz is not kurdish last time I checked... I don't even think kurds revendicate it!

Armenia is 100% pro Russian. Turkey, fundamentalistic Nazi country, is pro Iran. Georgia is a little country with very small population and wihtout any pover.
Israle has to much enemies.

Only Kurds can destroy Turkish and Arab chauvinism, fanatism and racism. And nobody else. We're the worst nightmare of those f*ckers.
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:46 pm

Here we don’t have sea. And don’t like the idea that there will be Kurdistan without opening to sea.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:16 pm

Only Kurds can destroy Turkish and Arab chauvinism, fanatism and racism


And who will destroy our own racism chauvinism and fanatism ?

Here we don’t have sea. And don’t like the idea that there will be Kurdistan without opening to sea.


Take your gun and let invade by yourself Turkey until Black Sea :lol:
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:42 pm

Piling wrote:
Only Kurds can destroy Turkish and Arab chauvinism, fanatism and racism


And who will destroy our own racism chauvinism and fanatism ?

MostKurds are good Kurds. :lol:
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:14 pm

99,99% of all Kurds are good Kurds.


trigan it is racist to say such things... please dont say that.
there are bad and good among every ethnic.
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:50 pm

Bira you misunderstood me. I think 99,99%, ok 99% is maybe to much, let say most of us are not like me. They are not so chauvinistic like me. Hey even my brothers are saying that somebody I’m going to far, hahaha.

But hey I’m not a “bad” Kurd after all. I like for searching boundaries, to confront people with their own feelings, and let them think about themselves. Don’t you see how hypocrite some people are!

For me all people are brothers, and if people don’t understand my sarcasm than it’s their fault/problem and not mine!
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:01 pm

well i bet if the same things that has happened to kurds , had happend to any other nation, all of them would become racist...
for example , if you go to Armenia.. the will EAT YOU if you say you are turk . he he Kurds in general are kind and peacefull nation .

but still 99% is too much ! there are at least 5% jash , 5% asshoels ,5%selfish...3% extremist muslem who kill their sisters [honor killers]
I know many kurds who destroy Kurdistan for their own Benefit ...
infact may be if we didnt have jash and bad kurds, we would be free now.

no not 99% of the kurds are Good :oops:
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:31 pm

if 99% of kurds were good, you'd have a huge independant country for 100 years :P
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