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PostAuthor: missIndependent » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:11 pm

^^hhehehehhe, LOL! ur funny!


btw, my pic is too sexy to be posted in here :roll:
n oh, it's pure kurdish :roll: :P
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:27 pm

missIndependent wrote:btw, my pic is too sexy to be posted in here :roll:

I’ve got such a feeling that you are right about that.

Sssst, don’t use word ‘pure’. Every time when I’m using word ‘pure’, I’m hurting Piling feelings. People may thing you’re a racist.

So from now on you’re partly Parthian, Jewish, Scythian. :lol:

But not Kurdish, because there are not such people Kurds… :cry:
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PostAuthor: missIndependent » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:32 pm

Tirigan wrote:
missIndependent wrote:btw, my pic is too sexy to be posted in here :roll:

I’ve got such a feeling that you are right about that.

Sssst, don’t use word ‘pure’. Every time when I’m using word ‘pure’, I’m hurting Piling feelings. People may thing you’re a racist.

So from now on you’re partly Parthian, Jewish, Scythian. :lol:

But not Kurdish, because Kurds don’t exist. :cry:


hhehhe, sheesh joker

n NO, apart from a pure Kurd with a mix of Jewish, im not anything else :roll:

OUCH! im ready if i've hurt anyone's feeling lol :shock: :twisted:
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PostAuthor: oslonor » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:27 pm

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PostAuthor: womanizer » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:25 pm

who are they persian, are they indian, from maharaja temple :D
what a ugly race!!!

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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:39 pm

womanizer wrote:who are they persian, are they indian, from maharaja temple :D
what a ugly race!!!



Okey - we can be constructive and advocate for what we don't like about them - but just calling them "an ugly race" is realy not helpful or productive... It only accumulates hate...

And that sounds a bit rascist too... There ARE good Persians - and we have a VERY good example - a member on this forum: Arashi... He is GREAT! Better than a Jash Kurd... 8)
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PostAuthor: oslonor » Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:25 pm

missIndependent wrote:oslonor, welcome to the site!
i also have a question? are you iranian?




hhehe,ok, calm down, but i dont know why ur so paranoid with the term iranian? are u persian? n if so, why do u think we, Kurds, are interested to know bout ur problems with azeries?! :roll: :shock: you'r all the same to us! end of.
no offence to Arashi, ur one out of 1000000 :)


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oslonor wrote:Also I have a question for you. I read somewhere that Kurds in Saqez in Iran and areas around it were actually Parthian or Scythian settlement who adopted the Kurdish language. Do you know anything about it?


I have not heard that.... It could be true.....


Kurds from these areas look different from regular Kurds. They look very Persian. The name Saqez does not refer to chewing gum. It refers to Sakas or Scythians.

im also interested to know when u got this brillient facts from?
i'm from mehabad which is fairly close to saqiz, n can i ask what do u see as a regular kurdish look since u know better? :roll:


No. I am not Iranian. Do you know any Kurds who look very different from ordinary Kurds? In the slideshow there is a Kurd from Iran who looks different from other Kurds.

My facts comes from historical sources. Some people misuse the name Iranian and try to make themselves Persians and Kurds. Those are Azeri Turks. I am just warning people about that.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:56 pm

Who is that Kurd who doesn't look like other Kurds?

Which picture?


The lady that has bent over in the field?
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PostAuthor: oslonor » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:20 pm

Diri wrote:Who is that Kurd who doesn't look like other Kurds?

Which picture?


The lady that has bent over in the field?


Yes. That one.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:47 pm

oslonor wrote:
Diri wrote:Who is that Kurd who doesn't look like other Kurds?

Which picture?


The lady that has bent over in the field?


Yes. That one.



To me - she looks Turkmen... There are some in South Kurdistan... And judging from her dress - it's Southern Kurdish in style...
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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:48 pm

Hmm... But her way of wearing her scarf and the type of scarf - in e.g. how ugly and un-Kurdish it is - she must be from East Kurdistan... :?
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PostAuthor: oslonor » Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:55 am

Diri wrote:
oslonor wrote:
Diri wrote:Who is that Kurd who doesn't look like other Kurds?

Which picture?


The lady that has bent over in the field?


Yes. That one.



To me - she looks Turkmen... There are some in South Kurdistan... And judging from her dress - it's Southern Kurdish in style...


Can you post some pictures of Turkomans so we know how they look like.
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PostAuthor: womanizer » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:21 am

oslonor Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject:

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missIndependent wrote:
oslonor, welcome to the site!
i also have a question? are you iranian?




hhehe,ok, calm down, but i dont know why ur so paranoid with the term iranian? are u persian? n if so, why do u think we, Kurds, are interested to know bout ur problems with azeries?! you'r all the same to us! end of.
no offence to Arashi, ur one out of 1000000


oslonor wrote:
kurdistani wrote:
oslonor wrote:

Also I have a question for you. I read somewhere that Kurds in Saqez in Iran and areas around it were actually Parthian or Scythian settlement who adopted the Kurdish language. Do you know anything about it?



I have not heard that.... It could be true.....


Kurds from these areas look different from regular Kurds. They look very Persian. The name Saqez does not refer to chewing gum. It refers to Sakas or Scythians.

im also interested to know when u got this brillient facts from?
i'm from mehabad which is fairly close to saqiz, n can i ask what do u see as a regular kurdish look since u know better?


No. I am not Iranian. Do you know any Kurds who look very different from ordinary Kurds? In the slideshow there is a Kurd from Iran who looks different from other Kurds.

My facts comes from historical sources. Some people misuse the name Iranian and try to make themselves Persians and Kurds. Those are Azeri Turks. I am just warning people about that.


Diri Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject:

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womanizer wrote:
who are they persian, are they indian, from maharaja temple
what a ugly race!!!



Okey - we can be constructive and advocate for what we don't like about them - but just calling them "an ugly race" is realy not helpful or productive... It only accumulates hate...

And that sounds a bit rascist too... There ARE good Persians - and we have a VERY good example - a member on this forum: Arashi... He is GREAT! Better than a Jash Kurd...


womanizer Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject:

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who are they persian, are they indian, from maharaja temple
what a ugly race!!!


oslonor Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject:

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Phenotypes:

Kurds
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More on Persians and Hollywood
http://oslonor.blogspot.com/


missIndependent Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject:

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Tirigan wrote:
missIndependent wrote:
btw, my pic is too sexy to be posted in here

I’ve got such a feeling that you are right about that.

Sssst, don’t use word ‘pure’. Every time when I’m using word ‘pure’, I’m hurting Piling feelings. People may thing you’re a racist.

So from now on you’re partly Parthian, Jewish, Scythian.

But not Kurdish, because Kurds don’t exist.


hhehhe, sheesh joker

n NO, apart from a pure Kurd with a mix of Jewish, im not anything else

OUCH! im ready if i've hurt anyone's feeling lol


Tirigan Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject:

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missIndependent wrote:
btw, my pic is too sexy to be posted in here

I’ve got such a feeling that you are right about that.

Sssst, don’t use word ‘pure’. Every time when I’m using word ‘pure’, I’m hurting Piling feelings. People may thing you’re a racist.

So from now on you’re partly Parthian, Jewish, Scythian.

But not Kurdish, because there are not such people Kurds…


missIndependent Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject:

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^^hhehehehhe, LOL! ur funny!


btw, my pic is too sexy to be posted in here
n oh, it's pure kurdish


Tirigan Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject:

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missIndependent wrote:
im also interested to know when u got this brillient facts from?
i'm from mehabad which is fairly close to saqiz, n can i ask what do u see as a regular kurdish look since u know better?

Can you post your picture here. I want to know how Parthians and Scythians look like. Especially Parthian women…

Btw. I think I’m more Hurrian than Indo-European (Median).


missIndependent Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:04 pm Post subject:

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sorry Piling, sis, but i thought ur a guy too at the beginning
it's probably cuz of your strong n tough(in a good way) personality..
ok, imma ask a dumb question, my brain cant figure it out from the posts, are u Kurdish, or are you French?


missIndependent Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject:

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oslonor, welcome to the site!
i also have a question? are you iranian?




hhehe,ok, calm down, but i dont know why ur so paranoid with the term iranian? are u persian? n if so, why do u think we, Kurds, are interested to know bout ur problems with azeries?! you'r all the same to us! end of.
no offence to Arashi, ur one out of 1000000


oslonor wrote:
kurdistani wrote:
oslonor wrote:

Also I have a question for you. I read somewhere that Kurds in Saqez in Iran and areas around it were actually Parthian or Scythian settlement who adopted the Kurdish language. Do you know anything about it?



I have not heard that.... It could be true.....


Kurds from these areas look different from regular Kurds. They look very Persian. The name Saqez does not refer to chewing gum. It refers to Sakas or Scythians.

im also interested to know when u got this brillient facts from?
i'm from mehabad which is fairly close to saqiz, n can i ask what do u see as a regular kurdish look since u know better?



Man what is Iran?? Is kind Persian paranoia .putting different nation by force together, while they worked well hard in the background the sub categories this oppressed peoples so they calling them Iranian peoples, we have seen many books and wikies, blah ablh, is like today Turkish nationalist coming to realize to say that we all children of Anatolia, or Arabs saying we all Mesopotamian, etc etc,,what a cheap and scam convoying
This all Iran things unfortunally based on Persian culture domination has beenforged, well when those nation free from hand oh Persian, history will be rewrite again, those fake sub categories will be disappear.


One more thing oslos, Kurd is Kurdm nothing different in between them ,however the barbarian oppressive culture have been divested Kurdistan, so if you think you can differentiate Kurdish from north or south Kurdistan, only if they assimilated, they no longer able speak well Kurdish or is just from hair style or clothes that is fashion in that country, nothing else, and there is no such called Iran Kurds or turkey Kurd, we only have Kurdistan Kurds

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PostAuthor: oslonor » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:44 am

Man what is Iran?? Is kind Persian paranoia .putting different nation by force together, while they worked well hard in the background the sub categories this oppressed peoples so they calling them Iranian peoples, we have seen many books and wikies, blah ablh, is like today Turkish nationalist coming to realize to say that we all children of Anatolia, or Arabs saying we all Mesopotamian, etc etc,,what a cheap and scam convoying
This all Iran things unfortunally based on Persian culture domination has beenforged, well when those nation free from hand oh Persian, history will be rewrite again, those fake sub categories will be disappear.


One more thing oslos, Kurd is Kurdm nothing different in between them ,however the barbarian oppressive culture have been divested Kurdistan, so if you think you can differentiate Kurdish from north or south Kurdistan, only if they assimilated, they no longer able speak well Kurdish or is just from hair style or clothes that is fashion in that country, nothing else, and there is no such called Iran Kurds or turkey Kurd, we only have Kurdistan Kurds

Actually I was saying Kurds are Kurds. Some people pointed out that there are different Kurds. It is possible because Kurds in Turkey look different from Kurds in Iran and Iraq. Kurds in Iran and Iraq look more similar.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:47 pm

oslonor wrote:
Man what is Iran?? Is kind Persian paranoia .putting different nation by force together, while they worked well hard in the background the sub categories this oppressed peoples so they calling them Iranian peoples, we have seen many books and wikies, blah ablh, is like today Turkish nationalist coming to realize to say that we all children of Anatolia, or Arabs saying we all Mesopotamian, etc etc,,what a cheap and scam convoying
This all Iran things unfortunally based on Persian culture domination has beenforged, well when those nation free from hand oh Persian, history will be rewrite again, those fake sub categories will be disappear.


One more thing oslos, Kurd is Kurdm nothing different in between them ,however the barbarian oppressive culture have been divested Kurdistan, so if you think you can differentiate Kurdish from north or south Kurdistan, only if they assimilated, they no longer able speak well Kurdish or is just from hair style or clothes that is fashion in that country, nothing else, and there is no such called Iran Kurds or turkey Kurd, we only have Kurdistan Kurds

Actually I was saying Kurds are Kurds. Some people pointed out that there are different Kurds. It is possible because Kurds in Turkey look different from Kurds in Iran and Iraq. Kurds in Iran and Iraq look more similar.


No - that is wrong...

Kurds don't SUDDENLY look different over the other side of the border...

It's more gradual than that... If you are talking about physical appearence then you should think like this:

Kurds in Colemêrg and Botan and Wan look the same... So too do the Kurds in Badînan... Then if you go further south - you will find that Kurds in Badînan look similar to those in Soran and Baban - but that Kurds in Wan don't look so much like them... If you go further south you will find that those in Colemêrg and Botan don't look like the Kurds in Germiyan and Êlam. Neither do the Kurds in Badînan... But the Kurds in Soran and Baban look similar to those in Germiyan and Êlam...

Get my point? Gradually - the further you get from one place the less they physically look alike to those you started with... That's a fact... Just like Kurdish dialects... When you start at one end - you will come to the next end - and they are no longer mutually-intelligable... Like if you go from Sine in East Kurdistan to Riha in North Kurdistan - they share many words etc. but they are not 100% mutually-intelligable... But they still speak Kurdish! But since we haven't STANDARIZED our language - we have very big differences within our nation... If we have our own country, we can standarize and people will gradually become more "the same" in dialect and also in appearence - since they would be marrying across more than they do now...

And about the pictures of Turkmen... Sorry - but I can't- I don't have time... But it's very simple: Turkmen... REAL ONES - look like Turkmens in Turkmenistan... But they have been there since the of Ottoman times - so the have mixed heavily with Kurds and Arabs... :wink:
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