PKK in Turkey

[Diri]

Soldiers
Police
Teachers

These three are not "civilian"... Not to the PKK and not to the Kurds... Because they each have their weapon;

Indeed, You dont deserve teachers, you dont also deserve doctors. You dont deserve bussiness men too. All of them are spies of Turkish goverment.

But why do you want them so much? You cry for teacher, doctors or bussiness men. Next time dont kill people, so maybe You wont scare doctors, teachers or bussiness men.

Anyway, You are right, we should not sent these people to kurdistan, we dont waste our people for some people like you.

Read what I said after that... The weapons applied by those three are like naked knives on Kurdish throats...

Especially the pen of the teacher... His is the worst of all weapons... You can kill Kurds by the thousands with guns and torture with the help of the law - but when you apply the pen to brainwash Kurds - that means the end of Kurdayetî...

Don't send your Kemalist teachers to Kurdistan, thank you...

[womanizer]

Well first well you guys going too much deep in the past, as I have said all parties have done their parts, why guys until stick with PKK? What is this double standard> why not mention KDP, or YNK?
About teachers,
the events you mentioning was early 90s, and more importantly by simply telling poepls PKK kills teachers , any human would have bad reaction to it, those so called teacher has been punish in past, in fact there wasn’t teachers, but rather thugs which recruited directly by MIT and army Agnets and not by ministry of education, their aim was to spy on Kurds, monitor activity in the villages, and teacher job is best way to do it in rural area, those peoples was directly was assigned by Turkish general, so there is big difference here. of course in nay part of Kurdistan enemies teacher aim to assimilated Kurdish children in every part of Kurdistan, but those so called teachers(killers) ,who punished their job was much beyond that.
Since that PKK also taking a lot transformation, it have full comply with Genève convention, also take lot reform, and structural reform within entire organization. Those official who heavy handed in their struggle, they disciplined. , of course there is always been agents and killers who try go inside PKK to destroy Kurdish nation struggle, as I said our struggle is like battling whole galaxy, is not easy as been for some. so PKK is not just a party but is fully functional government, which hopefully one day will governs our motherland.

[zurderer]

Read what I said after that... The weapons applied by those three are like naked knives on Kurdish throats...

Especially the pen of the teacher... His is the worst of all weapons... You can kill Kurds by the thousands with guns and torture with the help of the law - but when you apply the pen to brainwash Kurds - that means the end of Kurdayetî...

Don't send your Kemalist teachers to Kurdistan, thank you...

I agree with you, we should not sent Turkish teachers to kurdistan, but well there is not any kurdish teacher that want to go their home land.

So unfortunately Turkey have to sent some teacher to that people.

I think you forgot doctors, they are men of state, and they can create some problem.

Also If kurds have some bussines, they will stop to support seperation from Turkey.(Look at rich kurds, they live at western Turkey and dont support seperation.)

So we wont let kurds to be educated, we should let them to die, and we should never make rich. For the kurdish nation.

So your people can follow their wild live, sell their daughers each other, continue to so-called suicide, ext ext.

[zurderer]

the events you mentioning was early 90s, and more importantly by simply telling poepls PKK kills teachers , any human would have bad reaction to it, those so called teacher has been punish in past, in fact there wasn’t teachers, but rather thugs which recruited directly by MIT and army Agnets and not by ministry of education, their aim was to spy on Kurds, monitor activity in the villages

so why did they also killed childs? are they spy of teachers.

[womanizer]

@Zureder,
what you are saying it is not lword of civilize person at all. no human can understand what you are saying, is clear haters and denial, and anger., it is simply based of systems of denial you grow up within, I am PKK 100% ultra PKK and proud !!entire my family like millions Kurds are PKK and I am from martyrs family, how could you accept such mentality fighting for your country. PKK fight for innocent Kurdish children to have free future as your own one. How can you have such dark brain!!! of course your fascist regime killing our children than showing in TV as Pkk killed them, you think tomorrow world wouldn’t find out about genocide and massacre of Turkish government agisnet our defenseless people?. What do you thinking ?Are we animals?? Is it to you, we are barbarian? despite been driven from very basic rights. Wake up I thought u a little abit advance Turk, still thinking like Mongolian period.

[LudvigDR]

there is nothing to discuss about pkk there are 100% terrorists there are whorse than talban and al qaida shit

[Piling]

You want to boycott Israël ? Could you explain why the Hamas is not a terrorist movement fpr your, though and the PKK is it ?

[womanizer]

LudvigDR



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there is nothing to discuss about pkk there are 100% terrorists there are whorse than talban and al qaida shit

Your fascist and bankrupt Turkish regime is whore and terrorist,, don’t you dare bring even name of PKK in your dirty mouth!!
I am very proud PKK!! Shut your dirty mouth, This forum is not Mongol forum, you are in wrong place , it is kurdistani forum, insult to PKK is insult to Kurdistan and insult to this forum.
If you brave enough come front line like a man and I will berry you alive you son of b**!!!

[zurderer]

insult to PKK is insult to Kurdistan and insult to this forum.

haha Infact insulting pkk is not only insult kurdistan and this forum, but insult to world and humanity.

Stupid.

You want to boycott Israël ? Could you explain why the Hamas is not a terrorist movement fpr your, though and the PKK is it ?

Infact boycoting France is more acceptable idea in Turkey. Anyway, Instead of interesting with other problems, you should interest with your own country problems.

[Piling]

Do you think I will contradict you ? I support absolutely the positions of Baskin Oran, Elif Shafak, Hrank Dink and Murat Belge against this stupid French law, as well as I support them when they fight the same kind of Turkish assholes in their own country.

By the way I salute here the new Nobel Laureate, Orhan Pamuk.

[Diri]

Let's stay calm...

An insult aimed at PKK is an insult aimed at PKK... An insult aimed at Kurdistan is an insult aimed at Kurdistan...

I don't like Turks and other Middle Easterners to insult the PKK...

It should be up to Kurds themselves to criticise the PKK and other Kurdish parties...

Nobody cares what non-Kurds think about Kurdish parties really... If there is something wrong with a Kurdish party, then the Kurds will be the first to say so... Trust me on that...

So no insults needed... If you have constructive critic, you are welcome to bring this forth in a civil and decent manner... Be my guest...

That is the only way we will get somewhere... Constructive discussions...

[Arashi]

Let's stay calm...

An insult aimed at PKK is an insult aimed at PKK... An insult aimed at Kurdistan is an insult aimed at Kurdistan...

I don't like Turks and other Middle Easterners to insult the PKK...

It should be up to Kurds themselves to criticise the PKK and other Kurdish parties...

Nobody cares what non-Kurds think about Kurdish parties really... If there is something wrong with a Kurdish party, then the Kurds will be the first to say so... Trust me on that...

So no insults needed... If you have constructive critic, you are welcome to bring this forth in a civil and decent manner... Be my guest...

That is the only way we will get somewhere... Constructive discussions...

Turks and Middle-easterners are directly affected by what the PKK does and does not do, terrorism or no terrorism. I'd think EUROPEANS should shut up about the matter, not Middle-easterners, no? You have the right to insult Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Persians, Turks, Arabs (which you practise vigorously ) when they harm Kurds and the Kurdish cause.

[Diri]

Let's stay calm...

An insult aimed at PKK is an insult aimed at PKK... An insult aimed at Kurdistan is an insult aimed at Kurdistan...

I don't like Turks and other Middle Easterners to insult the PKK...

It should be up to Kurds themselves to criticise the PKK and other Kurdish parties...

Nobody cares what non-Kurds think about Kurdish parties really... If there is something wrong with a Kurdish party, then the Kurds will be the first to say so... Trust me on that...

So no insults needed... If you have constructive critic, you are welcome to bring this forth in a civil and decent manner... Be my guest...

That is the only way we will get somewhere... Constructive discussions...

Turks and Middle-easterners are directly affected by what the PKK does and does not do, terrorism or no terrorism. I'd think EUROPEANS should shut up about the matter, not Middle-easterners, no? You have the right to insult Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Persians, Turks, Arabs (which you practise vigorously ) when they harm Kurds and the Kurdish cause.

So you didn't get my point...

It's like this;

On one side we have Turks who use "PKK" synonymously with "Kurd"... Those people when insulting the PKK aim at insulting Kurds (because they think all Kurds are PKK supporters). The other Turks try very hard to advocate that the PKK is a terrorist organization not even related to Kurds. These Turks will claim Kurds are very welcome (as Kurds) in Turkey and that they are treated just as any other "Turk". Therefore they will criticise the PKK as a NON-KURDISH thing and often call it an agent of the West - because they believe the PKK is funded by Western countries etc...

So I am expressing my concerns about these Turks - they don't understand that the PKK is the result of Turkish policies (oppression/deportations/genocide/ethnocide etc.) on Kurds...

These people discredit themselves at the end of the day - but they don't see that either...

Anyway - my initial point was; Kurds like myself are not 100% happy with any Kurdish party, when needed I and others likeminded will voice our rage or critic of the PKK, KDP, PUK or any other Kurdish party... But as of now; they are all Kurdish political/militant parties, in their own way handling the Kurdish struggle for self-determination and human rights...

So I say leave the insults at the door - if needed Kurds will be the ones giving them the harshest words... If you have any constructive critic; be my guest... But don't try to discredit the PKK or KDP or whatever as not being Kurdish parties fighting the Kurdish struggle when it comes down to the last drop in the bowl...

[zurderer]

Ok I will be productive, I hope PKK bastards(This is not insult for them) wont kill innocent people.

Thanks.

Do you think I will contradict you ? I support absolutely the positions of Baskin Oran, Elif Shafak, Hrank Dink and Murat Belge against this stupid French law, as well as I support them when they fight the same kind of Turkish assholes in their own country.

[Piling]

Yeah. Take a breath.