Could Kurdish Independence be actually good for Turkey?

[Djembe]

He said two main parties, there are other Kurdish parties.

Yes, he said Kurdish parties get 57 votes but independence vote gets 98 percent. He implied that Kurdish people voted for 57 for Kurdish party, but voted for 98 percent for independence. What you and alan do not tell us that the percentage out of 57 percent is also mostly Kurdish parties. Can't you see the flaw on the logic.

The idiots true face comes out, why is this clown allowed to post here? the address clearly stated there is no northern Iraq, only southern Kurdistan... why don't you hop along to another forum?

Idiot, stupid, clown... What else. I thought you were going to come with something new today. I am not an idiot. Instead of rubbish and baseless accusation and insult, why don't you post something that has intellectual value. All my posts are legitimate based on political and social science. The problem is that you are not capable and your thinking is mostly controlled by your testosterone, rather than brain.

Mr ideas is against other ideas. You said I should not be allowed to post here. Why?

And why are you so insecure and concerned. I mean if my posts are stupid, idiotic and I am a clown, no one should take my post serious. I also remind you that you may go to User control panel and add me as a 'foe' if my post are offensive, annoying, idiotic and stupid. Why is a big fuss?

[alan131210]

WHERE IS BARIS ?? WHY IS THIS GUY STILL NOT BANNED ??? HE SPAT IT OUT HE IS AGAINST KURDISTAN INDEPENDENCE AND HE IS OK WITH TURKISH INDEPENDENCE LOL WHAT A JOKE BAN THIS IDIOT WHERE IS OUR MOD !!???????????????

[alan131210]

and who are you to be against Kurdistan independence ? are you from south Kurdistan ? thank god no , will you have a say when we declare it ? thanks god no ..... your another dirty turk with his hidden hatred agenda and shows to be nice from beginning then truth comes out , your not the 1st one and you wont be last but your days are limited.

[Djembe]

WHERE IS BARIS ?? WHY IS THIS GUY STILL NOT BANNED ??? HE SPAT IT OUT HE IS AGAINST KURDISTAN INDEPENDENCE AND HE IS OK WITH TURKISH INDEPENDENCE LOL WHAT A JOKE BAN THIS IDIOT WHERE IS OUR MOD !!???????????????

This is the first statement I had below. Let me repeat. I am against the Kurdish independence. Clearly stated when I introduce myself under the 'introduce yourself sub category'. Read below. And saying and defending is a reason for ban? Ha ha. Moderators can not ban me for providing my opinion. Your request of banning me will not work. I am not doing anything wrong. I comply with all of the forum rules. Sorry.

I would rather to have integration and great freedom of Kurdish people, rather than seeing Kurdish Independence.

[Djembe]

and who are you to be against Kurdistan independence ? are you from south Kurdistan ? thank god no , will you have a say when we declare it ? thanks god no ..... your another dirty turk with his hidden hatred agenda and shows to be nice from beginning then truth comes out , your not the 1st one and you wont be last but your days are limited.

Hidden hatred? It is an overstatement. Hate is too strong word. Critical is, yeah sure. I am critical. Hatred is more of your quality, not mine. Sorry. My post is clear, honest and respectful. There is a significant difference between 'hate' and 'disagreement' I stated that I am against Kurdish independence since the first day. Your threats are not my concern. I have no fear.

[alan131210]

buddy stop wasting your precious time on learning about us , kurds in north deserve to join with there southern brothers to form a new state "united states of Kurdistan" you can slow it down all you want in the end it will just happen , like it did with south sudan . and if i was a mod i would have banned you right away upon your introduction for spitting out such nasty words ............... oh well maybe another forum needed that doesnt let our enemies roam around freely in here , after all we are not allowed to do so in there forums .

[Djembe]

buddy stop wasting your precious time on learning about us , kurds in north deserve to join with there southern brothers to form a new state "united states of Kurdistan" you can slow it down all you want in the end it will just happen , like it did with south sudan . and if i was a mod i would have banned you right away upon your introduction for spitting out such nasty words ............... oh well maybe another forum needed that doesnt let our enemies roam around freely in here , after all we are not allowed to do so in there forums .

If you ban me because of my opinion! You are a fascist.

[alan131210]

when Kurdistan occupation from turkey stops then you can come and and say your opinion untill then f off .

[alan131210]

kaka am kara zor kara hich 7alli nabe lamaw dwa ba kas qsay lagal naka wa ihmali kan ba xoy wal be

[Djembe]

when Kurdistan occupation from turkey stops then you can come and and say your opinion untill then f off .

Alan

When you open your mouth, i don't expect anything intelligent or anything different from a fascist. Have you consider joining MHP? Good fit for you.

[ideas]

Idiot

He said 57% of Kurds voted for the two main Kurdish parties (PUK and KDP) that means the rest (100-57 = 43) voted for other Kurdish parties (Change, Islamic parties and minority parties) that means there are a variety of parties that run in Kurdish elections, that has nothing to do with 98.1% of people wanting independence.

You just wait till the admin comes on, if Baris doesn't take care of you the admin will, and I have seen you insult both Kulka and Alan (calling them uneducated indirectly)

[Djembe]

Idiot

He said 57% of Kurds voted for the two main Kurdish parties (PUK and KDP) that means the rest (100-57 = 43) voted for other (Change, Islamic parties and minority parties) that means there are a variety of parties that run in Kurdish elections, that has nothing to do with 98.1% of people wanting independence.

You just wait till the admin comes on, if Baris doesn't take care of you the admin will, and I have seen you insult both Kulka and Alan (calling them uneducated indirectly)

Ideas. I did not expect anything intelligent come from you anyway.

When admin comes, they will not ban me from here. I am not doing anything wrong. And, you should shame on yourself. You are telling me I am insulting Alan, have you read what they are posting?

[Djembe]

Idiot

He said 57% of Kurds voted for the two main Kurdish parties (PUK and KDP) that means the rest (100-57 = 43) voted for other Kurdish parties (Change, Islamic parties and minority parties) that means there are a variety of parties that run in Kurdish elections, that has nothing to do with 98.1% of people wanting independence.

You just wait till the admin comes on, if Baris doesn't take care of you the admin will, and I have seen you insult both Kulka and Alan (calling them uneducated indirectly)

In Kurdistan

57 percent voted for Kurdish Parties that forms the government
43 percent voted for other Kurdish parties which are opposition (Including minorities). All these parties already supporting the referendum.
57 + 43 = 100 which is close to referendum.

In Turkey

Let's for the sake of argument there are 24 percent Kurdish population.
BDP get 6 percent. Which is 25 percent of Kurdish people. That means

25 percent of Kurdish voted BDP which is a Kurdish Nationalist party.
75 percent of Kurdish voted for other parties like AKP, CHP which are NOT KURDISH PARTIES. THEY ARE NOT PRO KURDISH. Most likely they would not be pro-independent.

Can you see the difference and illogical argument of comparing two?

[ideas]

Idiot

He said 57% of Kurds voted for the two main Kurdish parties (PUK and KDP) that means the rest (100-57 = 43) voted for other (Change, Islamic parties and minority parties) that means there are a variety of parties that run in Kurdish elections, that has nothing to do with 98.1% of people wanting independence.

You just wait till the admin comes on, if Baris doesn't take care of you the admin will, and I have seen you insult both Kulka and Alan (calling them uneducated indirectly)

Ideas. I did not expect anything intelligent come from you anyway.

When admin comes, they will not ban me from here. I am not doing anything wrong. And, you should shame on yourself. You are telling me I am insulting Alan, have you read what they are posting?

I don't care, I don't expect anything intelligent from a Turk anyway, I don't care what you or your damned nation thinks, ok? now fuck off seriously I have no desire discussing anything with you, you've already stated 'I don't agree with independent Kurdistan' and you have therefore closed any door for discussion with me.

Now fuck off seriously.. no one wants you here you troll.

[ideas]

Look you clown I told you 100 times so far, north Kurdistan is occupied so it's only natural that people will vote for other parties, just like when southern Kurdistan was occupied people 'voted' for saddam.

Seriously, if your trieng to prove to us that Kurds would not want an independent Kurdistan, given the chance, you'd have better chance teaching a mouse to speak. FUCK OFF?