We'll hit Nato shield in Turkey if threatened: Iran

[jjmuneer]

I have already given you the answer. what do you think about economical relation with Israel.

I don't want to start a argument that isn't related to this, but with all due respect your answer isn't straight foward. So what your saying is lets forget the fact that Israel helped in the arrest of APO? Lets forget Halabja? NO, I'm not saying we go burn down Israeli embassy, or "boycott" Israel, I'm just saying we shouldn't maintain such brotherly ties. At the end of the day, politics is politics. Although I agree with you mostly, I think Israel economically will be a good ally, its very advanced in the agriculture and electronics, their expertise will be helpful for Kurdistan.

[Kurdistano]

I have already given you the answer. what do you think about economical relation with Israel.

I don't want to start a argument that isn't related to this, but with all due respect your answer isn't straight foward. So what your saying is lets forget the fact that Israel helped in the arrest of APO? Lets forget Halabja? NO, I'm not saying we go burn down Israeli embassy, or "boycott" Israel, I'm just saying we shouldn't maintain such brotherly ties. At the end of the day, politics is politics. Although I agree with you mostly, I think Israel economically will be a good ally, its very advanced in the agriculture and electronics, their expertise will be helpful for Kurdistan.

Why are you coming up with Halabja. Are you trying to make it more dramatic than it is. What has Halabja to do with Apo or Israel? Are you giving one man as much importance as to the thousands of chemical victims in Halabja. Like I said there were more countries involved in catching Apo than Israel though you make only Israel guilty for this. Iranians have by far more done to us than arresting one of our leaders. Namely they KILLED two of them (Simko and gazi muhammed) though you believe in a "iranic" economical unity. Sorry but this sounds to me very hypocritical.

No one is talking about brotherly ties with Israel in this point I agree with you, but I think we shouldnt give more importance to our "beloved" Iranic neighbors as to other possible allies.

[jjmuneer]

I have already given you the answer. what do you think about economical relation with Israel.

I don't want to start a argument that isn't related to this, but with all due respect your answer isn't straight foward. So what your saying is lets forget the fact that Israel helped in the arrest of APO? Lets forget Halabja? NO, I'm not saying we go burn down Israeli embassy, or "boycott" Israel, I'm just saying we shouldn't maintain such brotherly ties. At the end of the day, politics is politics. Although I agree with you mostly, I think Israel economically will be a good ally, its very advanced in the agriculture and electronics, their expertise will be helpful for Kurdistan.

Why are you coming up with Halabja. Are you trying to make it more dramatic than it is. What has Halabja to do with Apo or Israel? Are you giving one man as much importance as to the thousands of chemical victims in Halabja. Like I said there were more countries involved in catching Apo than Israel though you make only Israel guilty for this. Iranians have by far more done to us than arresting one of our leaders. Namely they KILLED two of them (Simko and gazi muhammed) though you believe in a "iranic" economical unity. Sorry but this sounds to me very hypocritical.

No one is talking about brotherly ties with Israel in this point I agree with you, but I think we shouldnt give more importance to our "beloved" Iranic neighbors as to other possible allies.

No I think we should support Persian democracy, because atleast with that then we won't have to worry about mullahs attacking us.
No I'm not saying APO is more important than halabja, nor the other way around. I'm just trying to say APO was and is a very important figure in Kurdish politics.
Sorry but when did I say iranic economicaly unity? I know the Shah killed Qazi Muhammed, he was a western puppet. I don't know if your Kurdish jew, but I'm just saying the west are equally responible for crimes against the Kurds.

Anyways whats your point? I'm a Kurd from Kurdistan, doesn't really matter what Turks, Arabs, Persians, Armenians, Greeks think about us. Day by day we are becoming a independant nation.

[Kurdistano]

no im a sunni Kurd and agree with you. I simply think economic relation with Israel can benefit us and just that you are trying to wash the persian clean from all responsibility by claiming all leaders of iran were western puppets. this is not true and you know it my friend. the murder of Simko was not.

[Kawe]

jjmuneer if you actually think that a democratic Iran would allow Kurds to have independence than you are very mislead. History shows that no matter what government Iran has had, they have never liked the idea of Kurdish independence and they most likely never will. Whether it be the Mullahs, the Shahs or a President, Iranians see Kurdistan as land that belongs to them, and we are only their brothers when we agree with their views.

[jjmuneer]

jjmuneer if you actually think that a democratic Iran would allow Kurds to have independence than you are very mislead. History shows that no matter what government Iran has had, they have never liked the idea of Kurdish independence and they most likely never will. Whether it be the Mullahs, the Shahs or a President, Iranians see Kurdistan as land that belongs to them, and we are only their brothers when we agree with their views.

I agree, Arabs didn't like us getting Independance in South Kurdistan, yet we still got it. Don't worry I'm not defending Persians, but Iran cannot complain when we Kurds have been defending that country and even ruled over it. They can claim eastern Kurdistan if a democractic Iran, but their not going to get it. I think eastern Kurds are going to snap one day.