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Re: Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:51 pm

jjmuneer wrote:If the Turks want a war, it will be end of Turkey in my opinion. I think we Kurds in general have had it.


First off, I want to say that the end of Turkey as we know it is certainly near. They can change the country for the better or partition it, but today's Turkey is not sustainable. Countries in general tend to have a shelf-life of a couple hundred years before they are replaced with a "new and improved" version, but there is a part of Turkey's present territory that we all know well where most people do not view themselves as fundamentally Turkish, and where the state insists that they view themselves as such. Such situations cannot last for 100 years, historically speaking. Something has to give.

Now as for who "wants" a "war". What we presently have is experienced more or less like a war for the poor in Colemêrg*. We cannot call what they experience "peace". Reasonable Turks I know acknowledge this. However most of Turkey, living far away from this, is able to whitewash what's happening as a few extremists forcing their war on the Turkish army and the local populace (which is not the majority opinion even among anti-PKK Kurds with Turkish citizenship, but it is the view that the state is able to foist on many Turks). I think the state would like to maintain this situation as long as possible, rather than push for greater conflict. It is so easy to control the current situation for their profit.

*Not only in Colemêrg, but it is in the deepest, so I always use it as THE example.
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PostAuthor: thesunchild » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:51 pm

I heard that the victims were children of Kurdish Hezbollah supporters and AKP voters. With other words children of Kurdish traitors.
Those folks voted for AKP for a green light to smuggle goods from Southern Kurdistan. Now Turks killed them intentionally.

I do really hope that all ethnic Kurds in Turkey will open their eyes and see that Turkey tries to genocide Kurds!
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Re: Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

PostAuthor: talsor » Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:28 am

thesunchild wrote:I heard that the victims were children of Kurdish Hezbollah supporters and AKP voters. With other words children of Kurdish traitors.
Those folks voted for AKP for a green light to smuggle goods from Southern Kurdistan. Now Turks killed them intentionally.

I do really hope that all ethnic Kurds in Turkey will open their eyes and see that Turkey tries to genocide Kurds!


do you have a source ?
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Re: Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

PostAuthor: ideas » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:40 am

Hmmmm

Mr Celik added that some of the victims were sons of village guards who had helped Turkish troops in their fight against the rebels.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16352388

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PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:42 am

ideas wrote:Hmmmm

Mr Celik added that some of the victims were sons of village guards who had helped Turkish troops in their fight against the rebels.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16352388



This is true. But most village guards from that area do it because they were sick of the fighting and cause they were forced to it. My father (who wasnt a village guard) told me that, they came into the villages told the people either you become village Guard or you have to move. But be sure after this events even this village will give up this work. BDP and Baydemir were the only one going to visit that area and the people carrying the caskets were all using pro PKK slogans.

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PostAuthor: talsor » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:28 am

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Re: Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:58 am

most are under 15 , they cant be village guards this is BS i reckon .
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Re: Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:39 am

alan131210 wrote:most are under 15 , they cant be village guards this is BS i reckon .



Not them but their parents were forced to being village guards.

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Re: Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

PostAuthor: talsor » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:58 pm

alan131210 wrote:most are under 15 , they cant be village guards this is BS i reckon .


They are still kurds and I would be upset even if they kill a Kurdish dog .
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Re: Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:12 pm

They are still kurds and I would be upset even if they kill a Kurdish dog .


Absolutely right. If Kurds want to be a nation and have a state, they would stop to share their own people between 'my-political-side and 'other-traitors'.
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Re: Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:09 pm

"Police threatened us and told us 'Your end will be like theirs,' when we were around the house where the killings happened," said a 17-year-old.
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Re: Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

PostAuthor: talsor » Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:23 am

Protest in Southern Kurdistan for the death of 35 kurdish civilians

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Re: Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

PostAuthor: talsor » Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:34 pm

Turkish President Abdullah Gul on Friday termed the deaths of 35 people in Iraq near the Turkish border on Wednesday in military airstrikes “unfortunate and saddening,” expressing condolences to the families of the victims.

http://www.nationalturk.com/en/saddened ... ences-5269

I guess that fixes everything !!
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Re: Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

PostAuthor: talsor » Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:17 pm

Prosecutors have asked the Turkish military to provide images taken by drones during an air strike that killed 35 young Kurdish civilian on the Iraqi border, the Anatolia news agency said Saturday.

A large-scale investigation into the incident is under way, said Anatolia, adding that the prosecutor's office in Sirnak province requested that the military send images taken by the unmanned aerial vehicles during the air raid.

The prosecutor's office will also hear eyewitnesses from the region as part of the investigation, it said.

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Prosecu ... d_999.html
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Re: Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

PostAuthor: thesunchild » Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:44 am

Piling wrote:
They are still kurds and I would be upset even if they kill a Kurdish dog .


Absolutely right. If Kurds want to be a nation and have a state, they would stop to share their own people between 'my-political-side and 'other-traitors'.

Are you serious? I’m talking about a JASH clan that is for 300 years loyal to Turks and fought many times against PKK and are ready to fight against Barzani, Southern Kurds to destory everyting what they achieved.

They (traitor tibe/clan) didn’t want to fight anymore, but Erdogan warned them that he will kill them if they don’t fight against the real Kurds. So Erdogan killed 35 members of this tribe.

What will happen is that Erdongan will give them some money, Iran will give them some money and hey will start to fight against real Kurds (PKK and in the South) again!
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