Deadly Turkish Air Raid Strikes Kurds .

[alan131210]

demos in KRG burning the turkish flag



http://www.hawlati.co/babetekan/11198

[Piling]

Are you serious? I’m talking about a JASH clan that is for 300 years loyal to Turks and fought many times against PKK and are ready to fight against Barzani, Southern Kurds to destory everyting what they achieved.

They (traitor tibe/clan) didn’t want to fight anymore, but Erdogan warned them that he will kill them if they don’t fight against the real Kurds. So Erdogan killed 35 members of this tribe.

What will happen is that Erdongan will give them some money, Iran will give them some money and hey will start to fight against real Kurds (PKK and in the South) again!

Since 1990s, PKK is the main problem for KRG, not Turks in fact.

Concerning what u told about 'real Kurds' against 'traitors', it is exactly what I mean : always militia or guerilla behavior, never ruler state' mind.

[Kurdistano]

Are you serious? I’m talking about a JASH clan that is for 300 years loyal to Turks and fought many times against PKK and are ready to fight against Barzani, Southern Kurds to destory everyting what they achieved.

They (traitor tibe/clan) didn’t want to fight anymore, but Erdogan warned them that he will kill them if they don’t fight against the real Kurds. So Erdogan killed 35 members of this tribe.

What will happen is that Erdongan will give them some money, Iran will give them some money and hey will start to fight against real Kurds (PKK and in the South) again!

Since 1990s, PKK is the main problem for KRG, not Turks in fact.

Concerning what u told about 'real Kurds' against 'traitors', it is exactly what I mean : always militia or guerilla behavior, never ruler state' mind.

It was as brotherwar and KRG didnt exist. It was PDK vs PUK vs PKK: So I dont know how you come to such a senseless conclusion.

[alan131210]

[alan131210]

An MP (Karwan Saleh) and angry kurds in KRG ask Erbil to kick out Turkey's consulate ...

http://www.kurdiu.org/hawal/index.php?pageid=93487

[talsor]

The only survivor of the strike was Servet Encü, who said the villagers have been using the same route to trade with Iraq for decades. “If I can’t go today, I’ll go tomorrow. If one village doesn’t go one day, another village will. This is our trade. Our great-grandfathers did the same thing. We have to do this because of poverty. We have no other income. We do this to make TL 50 a day. We only bring in diesel and tea from the other side. Nobody uses these routes besides us. The traders on the Iraqi side bring their goods to the border. We go from this side and buy them and sometimes have to walk two or three kilometers.”

He also denied news reports claiming that the smugglers traveled to the northern Iraqi towns of Sina and Haftanin. “The Iraqi merchants bring the goods closer to the border for us. We have been doing this for 15 years, and the border area is always open. Sometimes the soldiers would come, sometimes they wouldn’t. There are about four or five different passages along that route.”

Encü said the villagers back home had warned them that Turkish soldiers had blocked the road. “We were coming back. So when we neared the border, they called us on the phone, told us the path was blocked by soldiers. They told us not to come. We told them, all we have is diesel, we don’t have any weapons. We went on. Soldiers stopped us. We then started going back in the opposite direction. This was when F16s started bombing us. All my friends are dead, only I survived.” He said the strike briefly stopped, which is when he noticed that some of his fellow villagers were badly injured, but it started again. “There were three strikes. I tried to hide in the snow. I called the villagers right after the attack. They saw a terrible scene when they arrived. All the bodies were burned as if someone burned them with gas.” He said half of the 36 people in the group died in the first strike, while the second one killed the others. “A small boy, about 12 years old, and another one who was 14 were among the dead. There were people, very young people about 17. I was the oldest one in the group; I am 31. They were all students, and were trying to make money to go to school. Some of them went to school in Bitlis, some in Diyarbakır.”

He said last Wednesday saw an unusually small group. “Normally we would go with 100, sometimes 150, mules. This is not the PKK’s route. They would sometimes confiscate the stuff villagers brought back, but they always knew. Why is it they haven’t made this mistake before? Everyone knew the villagers brought in cigarettes and diesel from across the border. The soldiers knew it. They should stop finding excuses. And the district governor knows, and the commander knows, everyone knows. The herons [unmanned aerial vehicles] spot what’s going on. The PKK comes with at most six or seven mules.”

Encü said not a single Turkish official has called him after the attack. “Some officials only visited one family in the village. They didn’t even offer condolences to the other 34 families.”

He said, “This is not like in the old times. Now is the age of phones, television and the Internet. No one can hide what they did. Three ministers came to our village and visited one single family who lost a child. I was going to run if they had summoned me. But they didn’t. And they didn’t visit. God left me alive so that I can make sure they get the justice they deserve.”

[talsor]

Turkey to compensate families of air strike victims

Istanbul (CNN) -- Turkey says it will compensate the families of 35 civilians killed last week in a military airstrike in a Kurdish area on the border with Iraq.
"This will be realized immediately, within several days," Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc said Monday.
"We extend our condolences again," Arinc said. "Of course, there are big things our government will do for the families, for those who survived. One of these is, as also defined by law, is paying compensation."
On Friday, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said he regreted the deaths, calling the incident "a sad outcome."
Pledging a full investigation, Erdogan said those killed late Wednesday were smuggling cigarettes and fuel, with almost half of them below the age of 20.
Erdogan said Turkey's military had been monitoring the area because it was in constant use by terrorist groups and that security forces had become suspicious because of the size of the group and number of donkeys used.
His words came a day after a senior member of a Kurdish separatist group urged Kurds to rise up against Turkish authorities over what he called a massacre.
Bahoz Erdal, a member of the command council of the armed wing of the Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, issued the call for action on the group's official website.
"We urge all the people of Kurdistan, especially the people of Hakkari (province) and Sirnak, to react to this massacre and seek a settling of accounts through uprisings from the perpetrators of this massacre," Erdal said in a statement.
Some observers have sounded the alarm in recent months about escalating tension between Turkey and its Kurdish minority, warning it may reignite a conflict that has simmered since 1984 and claimed more than 30,000 lives.
Turkey has been going on the offensive against Kurdish separatists based across its border in northern Iraq with bombings and incursions.

[unitedkurdistan]

Hmmmm

Mr Celik added that some of the victims were sons of village guards who had helped Turkish troops in their fight against the rebels.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16352388

This is true. But most village guards from that area do it because they were sick of the fighting and cause they were forced to it. My father (who wasnt a village guard) told me that, they came into the villages told the people either you become village Guard or you have to move. But be sure after this events even this village will give up this work. BDP and Baydemir were the only one going to visit that area and the people carrying the caskets were all using pro PKK slogans.

Yes, the turks are very good to abuse the situation, making their enemies people fight with them self. Just look at the Janissaries. Janissaries were kids that were taken away from their families in a very young age. Janissaries came in their biggest number from Greece, but also many other Balkan countries. And were raised by turkish families as turkish citizens. So they could later become soldiers for the ottoman empire and to fight against their own countries without knowing it.

[alan131210]

a new Kurdish Greek Armenian (maybe French too)alliance is needed BADLY .

[Piling]

Grece is already in UE then it is a friend State (but an economic disaster for euro and UE) ; but i don't think that France cares about Armenia (not a real nice State according to Human rights, btw). Concerning Kurds, i suppose that 85% of French people don't know really where is Kurdistan (somewhere between Afghanistan and Turkestan) and if Kurds are Arabs or Turks or what else ? in any case, all muslims are seen like fanatics in Europe.

France does not like Turkey, that is right, just because it opposes to its entry in UE. Beside that, I doubt that any government would like to be involved in a Kurdish struggle.

[unitedkurdistan]

a new Kurdish Greek Armenian (maybe French too)alliance is needed BADLY .

I know the greeks like it, even on their videos on youtube you can see, Greek invasion of turkey how kurds and armenians also invades. THey even made videos showing Peshmerga, PKK. Or a footboll game between PAOK and Fenerbache, how the greek fans did show up the PKK flag. Well have Turkey in any way hurt France? Have turkey stolen their land? NO. Germany is turkeys friend and France is friend with Germany. I think the armenians would become our allies aswell, they are desperate to get connected to the sea.

[Piling]

If we remember how Greeks have betrayed and sold Öcalan to Turks, I wonder which fighter would like to have a Greek as an ally.

[talsor]

If we remember how Greeks have betrayed and sold Öcalan to Turks, I wonder which fighter would like to have a Greek as an ally.

Greeks and Armenian are nothing but leeches and vultures . I'm yet to see one genuine stand/statement from their officials in regard to Kurds and Kurdistan .

[kurdistanis1]

We have come this far with lil to no help from the outside world, I think we will be just fine without Armenians sending their 200 men army to save us. Once we achieve independence it will just be that much sweater knowing we did it on our own. I just wish the west wasn't so actively involved in blocking our way.

[Azamat]

If we remember how Greeks have betrayed and sold Öcalan to Turks, I wonder which fighter would like to have a Greek as an ally.

Greeks and Armenian are nothing but leeches and vultures . I'm yet to see one genuine stand/statement from their officials in regard to Kurds and Kurdistan .

Off topic:

Vultures are actually quite beautiful animals.


^This particular one was spying for Israel.

In my huble opinion, the Armenians should be honoured by their title given by Talsor!