Turkish Parliament Allows Cabinet to Attack Syria

[Kurdistano]

Dear friend, hypocrisy of Turkey is already visible. When Turkey hits South Kurdistan villages while ''hunting'' PKK ( we all know they do it as psychological terror as we all know PKK is in northern Qandil and NK, they are not even close to the Kurdish villages in southern Qandil/SK).

Bro its visible for US Kurds, WE know the hypocrisy of Turkey but you sound like the whole outside world is following the events of Turkey, believe me 70% has no idea whats going on all they hear is "Turkey is hunting PKK, which is recognized as a terror organization because the PKK killed several Turkish soldiers".

[Qonyeyi]

Barzani is pragmatic, in order to be financially independent from Bagdad he has to deal with mongolian. What would you do if the central government treathens to cut budget and doesnt want our oilfields devoloped/ also sending army to try crush our autonomy? The Mongolian suck up is for the 1 million B/D pipeline that would give SK 37 Billions dollars a years if independent thats huge amount. Its all politics Barzani do this to get SK rich and worth of interest and will one day become independent wheter mongolian like or not. They will have invested to much and we will have border with NK who will also get autonomy later.

Heval, I am very aware of that hehe, dont you worry. He has been playing it very well up until now. Meeting with AKP and saying that Erdogan's politics are favourable for all of Middle East. I do not know where in Middle East, AKP's politics are acceptable. Again, I believe Barzani's speech was orchestred by USA and AKP, thus I do not see how KRG forces have any legitimicy in WK. Though, nobody should ever deny Southern Kurdish people to join the YPG ranks. YPG is the agreed force of defense between PYD and KNC.

[Kurdistano]

Everytime they do cross border operations, hundreds of people are affected and tens of innocent Kurdish villagers die. KRG remains silent despite the crystal clear violation of a national border.

dont be so delusional my friend. You dont see the problem. So what can or should the KRG do? Declare war on Turkey? Is it that what you want? Loose everything they have build just because PKK is using South Kurdistan retreat. KRG is already doing PKK a favor in not joining Turkey in any attacks.

[Qonyeyi]

Everytime they do cross border operations, hundreds of people are affected and tens of innocent Kurdish villagers die. KRG remains silent despite the crystal clear violation of a national border.

dont be so delusional my friend. You dont see the problem. So what can or should the KRG do? Declare war on Turkey? Is it that what you want? Loose everything they have build just because PKK is using South Kurdistan retreat.

I expect them to speak out. I expect them not to go to the congress of our enemies with the sole purpose of telling them '' how good they are doing politics and that Turkey should be a role model to Middle East''. I expect KRG to be the first ones to speak out against Turkish terror IN SK, not BDP/PKK. I expect KRG to be the first ones to say they want to throw out Turkish troops, not the central Iraqi government. I have not said anything up until now about KRG silence because I knew it was politics, but when Maliki is the first to speak out against attacks on Kurdish soil, and at the same time Barzani has made a good leader out of Erdogan... Don't tell me this does not seem like a problem to you.

[Qonyeyi]

Dear friend, hypocrisy of Turkey is already visible. When Turkey hits South Kurdistan villages while ''hunting'' PKK ( we all know they do it as psychological terror as we all know PKK is in northern Qandil and NK, they are not even close to the Kurdish villages in southern Qandil/SK).

Bro its visible for US Kurds, WE know the hypocrisy of Turkey but you sound like the whole outside world is following the events of Turkey, believe me 70% has no idea whats going on all they hear is "Turkey is hunting PKK, which is recognized as a terror organization because the PKK killed several Turkish soldiers".

Quite frankly, I do not give a heck about what the international community is saying. If you want to rely on UN, EU and USA there will never be a Kurdistan including NK and WK, because no matter how much PKK is being a democratic power and losen up on the armed struggle, the international community will always regard them as terrorists. I mean, Denmark judging ROJ TV as being a ''terrorist tv''. Denmark is the forefather of freedom of speech and free medias. This is just an example on how corrupt the international community is.

[RawandKurdistani]

i like barzani, he is a good leader, but in this point i agree with you absolutely. barzani sells northkurdish interrests for southkurdish interrests. he is doing the same as PYD in syria -> politic to increase the own influence, regardless the other kurds.[quote]

In order for north Kurdistan to gain independence,the south needs to be freed first, and the only way to do that is sadly though friendly dialogue.

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[burnsss]

Heval did you read my post? Barzani spoke against turkish troops from 2006-2009 and Maliki did nothing but visited Kerdogan and promised him to "fight terror" some of you people have short memeory or dont know history. It was the same with Iran KRG comndemned several times the shelling while Maliki said nothing. Its only now Maliki spoke against Turkey and its only because they have bad relationship nothing more.

[Kurdistano]

Dear friend, hypocrisy of Turkey is already visible. When Turkey hits South Kurdistan villages while ''hunting'' PKK ( we all know they do it as psychological terror as we all know PKK is in northern Qandil and NK, they are not even close to the Kurdish villages in southern Qandil/SK).

Bro its visible for US Kurds, WE know the hypocrisy of Turkey but you sound like the whole outside world is following the events of Turkey, believe me 70% has no idea whats going on all they hear is "Turkey is hunting PKK, which is recognized as a terror organization because the PKK killed several Turkish soldiers".

Quite frankly, I do not give a heck about what the international community is saying. If you want to rely on UN, EU and USA there will never be a Kurdistan including NK and WK,

Quite frankly, and here the problems of PKK starts. They think they can change the world without any support from outside powers. How are you going to get your rights when you have zero support from the world to which you belong too?

[brendar]

Turkey cannot intervene as long as there is russia + china.

[Qonyeyi]

Quite frankly, and here the problems of PKK starts. They think they can change the world without any support from outside powers. How are you going to get your rights when you have zero support from the world to which you belong too?

You intentionally left out the rest of my post which very well explained my point. As I have said hundreds of times, no matter what PKK does the world will still see them as terrorists. And despite THAT fact, PKK has come a long way with the support of the Kurdish people. Democratic autonomy in NK and democratic autonomy in WK are already realities. We did not need the support of anyone else but the Kurdish people and KRG, and that is how it is going to stay. Of course, unless the international fascist community is going to accept our demands for ordinary human rights. We are not about to change the world, we are simply asking for autonomy and human rights, if the international so-called democratic community can not accept this, I see no legitimicy in it, and neither should any of you who call yourselves Kurds.

This is the problem with a lot of Kurds. They make PKK the problem. PKK is not asking for something extra ordinary. They are simply asking for self rule and at least human rights. Why was the international community so fast to recognize this for SK? It is basically the same demands. If the international community is against this, this should show you their hypocrisy and fascist methods and any sane Kurd should take distance from them. They do not have patent and copyright on what is right and what is wrong. We as Kurds, as a people, knows what is going on in Kurdistan. The international community is the problem. They are the ones hindering a political solution by labelling NK as terrorists. PKK is NOT the problem.

[RawandKurdistani]

Quite frankly, and here the problems of PKK starts. They think they can change the world without any support from outside powers. How are you going to get your rights when you have zero support from the world to which you belong too?

You intentionally left out the rest of my post which very well explained my point. As I have said hundreds of times, no matter what PKK does the world will still see them as terrorists. And despite THAT fact, PKK has come a long way with the support of the Kurdish people. Democratic autonomy in NK and democratic autonomy in WK are already realities. We did not need the support of anyone else but the Kurdish people and KRG, and that is how it is going to stay. Of course, unless the international fascist community is going to accept our demands for ordinary human rights. We are not about to change the world, we are simply asking for autonomy and human rights, if the international so-called democratic community can not accept this, I see no legitimicy in it, and neither should any of you who call yourselves Kurds.

The world hates kurds, and it will always be like that, but we don't need them, Someday we will get our country back and release our revenge.

[Rando]

KRG made hundreds of T-55/62s,MT-LBs and thousands of peshmerga soldiers battle ready to fight the turkish army.
And they threathened turkey with that they would attack Turkish army if They (TA) attacked any civilians or advanced any deeper into our territory.
KRG also called for talks and peaceful sulutions to the problem.
so KRG wasnt silent when they entered SK.

[Qonyeyi]

KRG made hundreds of T-55/62s,MT-LBs and thousands of peshmerga soldiers battle ready to fight the turkish army.
And they threathened turkey with that they would attack Turkish army if They (TA) attacked any civilians or advanced any deeper into our territory.
KRG also called for talks and peaceful sulutions to the problem.
so KRG wasnt silent when they entered SK.

That's true, and I have not denied that. But remember the car that exploded with civilians inside? Remember that border village that had been bombed? All those innocent people and I do not recall KRG shouting out at the Turkish government. Turkey can not advance inside SK. The last 3 times they tried ( Oramar, Zap, Colemerg destana) they did not pass into SK not even 1 km. The problem is not Turkish forces trying to invade SK, they will never be able to pass the mountains. The problem is the mortar and f16 bombardment of southern Qandil villages and innocents.

[Rando]

KRG made hundreds of T-55/62s,MT-LBs and thousands of peshmerga soldiers battle ready to fight the turkish army.
And they threathened turkey with that they would attack Turkish army if They (TA) attacked any civilians or advanced any deeper into our territory.
KRG also called for talks and peaceful sulutions to the problem.
so KRG wasnt silent when they entered SK.

That's true, and I have not denied that. But remember the car that exploded with civilians inside? Remember that border village that had been bombed? All those innocent people and I do not recall KRG shouting out at the Turkish government. Turkey can not advance inside SK. The last 3 times they tried ( Oramar, Zap, Colemerg destana) they did not pass into SK not even 1 km. The problem is not Turkish forces trying to invade SK, they will never be able to pass the mountains. The problem is the mortar and f16 bombardment of southern Qandil villages and innocents.

yes,you are right. and trust me,im just as much against the turkish attacks in SK as you are and would love to see them kicked out of SK. but i dont think KRG could do much without getting disatorous consequnses. We are land locked at the moment,and need turkey to bulid our economy. I think If WK reaches the sea,KRG will presurre turkey to send those soldiers out of SK and maybe even stop bombardments by their F-4/16s.

[jjmuneer]

F*** the USA, they support Turkey, and if anyone supports Turkey then they are just as worst as the Turks. If anyone here dares says otherwise, should also not call him/herself a Kurdish nationalist. Firstly the Turks are under the orders of NATO, which is Europe and America. Let me tell you something I am anti-Syria oppressing the Kurds, but anyone who is against Turkey, I am with them and is my ally. Anyone who bombs Turkey or kills their people, I am with them. These attacks should only be allowed and endorsed. If Turkey come to Western Kurdish soil, they will be repelled back to Mongolia.