Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

[schoolmaster1954]

Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

There are no two other nations that are as close to each other, that are brothers as Turks and Kurds. Religious unity as Sunnis and Alevis is a significant factor in this relationship.

During the Ottoman period, Turks and Kurds were not treated differently as parts of “the Islamic nation.” They intermarried for centuries, and mixed to such an extent that today it is not easy to determine the line that separates Turkish and Kurdish identities. In the Republican period the Turkish state has certainly committed “mistakes and sins” against its Kurdish citizens, as openly admitted by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan last summer. These “mistakes and sins” were due to policies that aimed to create a Turkish nation out of the Ottoman “nation of Islam” in line with the concept of modernism that prevailed in the founding period of the Republic. Turkey has, however, also employed many “correct and well-intentioned” policies toward its Kurdish citizens.


Every inch of Turkish soil is the land of those who consider themselves as Kurds as well as those who consider themselves Turks. Today vast majority of citizens with Kurdish origin are settled in the western regions of the country with Turkish majority. The city that is home to most number of Kurds is not Suleymaniyah, Arbil, or Baghdad, but Istanbul. The share of Kurds in Turkey’s political, economic, and cultural elites is much higher than the proportion of Kurds in Turkey’s total population. Closeness and interaction between Turks and Kurds is so deep that Kurdish nationalism in Turkey is inspired by Turkish nationalism, while many Kurds have contributed to the development of Turkish nationalism. The Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) is, to an important extent, a product of the Turkish radical left. For all these reasons, efforts to draw a parallel between Turkey’s fight against the PKK and the fight between Israel and Palestinians subject to occupation and oppression simply distort the facts.


“Mistaken and sinful” policies of Turkish governments have significantly contributed to the 29 Kurdish rebellions that took place throughout the republican period. In this context, the crimes committed by the military regime of 1980 – 83 are much to blame. Turkey has, however, following the cease-fire by the PKK in 1999, recognized Kurdish identity in the context of EU reforms adopted, and has taken considerable steps towards its implementation. If the PKK provocations come to a halt, Turkey is poised to accelerate the democratization process, and the socio – economic development of the Kurdish - majority regions. Thus, Turkish or Kurdish, all reasonable and conscientious people know that Turkey’s most important problem today is the elimination of the PKK’s armed revolt. If this is to be achieved, Turkey possesses the necessary democratic framework and awareness to solve the political and economic problems it faces.


Turkish-Kurdish brotherhood is not limited to Turkey. Turkey, living in peace and democracy, is the greatest guarantee for Iraqi Kurds to live in peace and democracy. Iraqi Kurds gained their present autonomy thanks to Turkey’s support. The greatest guarantee for the Kurds of Iraq to reinforce their current autonomy is the friendship of the brother country, Turkey. The mutual interest of Turkey and the Kurds of Iraq is the Turkey - Iraq border to become a bridge for brotherhood, friendship, cooperation, and prosperity. The United States might have granted Iraqi Kurds their current freedom by toppling the Saddam dictatorship. However, the US could easily turn its back on the Kurds of Iraq if its interests call for, as witnessed by recent history. It is naive to believe that closeness to the US, which is at the focus of a growing hostility not only among Muslims, but all conscientious people of the world is to the benefit of Iraqi Kurds.


Turks and Kurds are brothers with a common fate. If they cooperate, they can help establish peace, stability, and freedom in the region. News about Turkey and Iraqi Kurds having agreed to cooperate against the PKK curse (see Sabah daily, July 30) is a light of hope for the region in its current darkness.

Edited by SAHIN ALPAY,

August 03, 2006

Source : Zaman

[cazyun]

very true article i agree every single word in this comment by teacher schoolmaster54 more coperration, more islamic ties...brothers and sisters 4 life

[schoolmaster1954]

Why don't we try to establish aneconomic and political unity in place of the EU (the European Unity) like earlier Ottoman Empire? Israil is not our friends. We supported you to get your authonomy in Northern Iraq. We embosomed many Kurdish people who ran away from Saddam in our borders. We shared the same country and religion. We have got married the girls Turkish or Kurdish.
Wassalam.

[cazyun]

very true....but the question still remains if turks still sees kurds like mountainturks? but an econimic union between them wouldnt be bad especially with the oil reserves in kerkuk areas.

[Diri]

very true....but the question still remains if turks still sees kurds like mountainturks? but an econimic union between them wouldnt be bad especially with the oil reserves in kerkuk areas.

Cazyun - where are you from?

[Diri]

"Turkish and Kurdish brotherhood"????

Last time those words were said - were by Atatürk... And he managed to make donkeys out of Kurds - to bring his Turkish empire into safe haven... And when he had with the help of the Kurds defeated the allies - he abondoned Kurds to be slaves and servants of Turks...


There is NO "Turkish and Kurdish brotherhood"... There never was...

That article is bullocks...

Because:

1) it tries to play down the number of Kurds
2) it tries to say that Kurds are actually free to be KURDISH in Turkey
3) it tries to justify the 90 years of deportation, rape and molestation of Kurdish boys and girls, genocide and massacres that have been part of the Turkish state policy to assimilate Kurds - and bring shame upon Kurds by calling them "Mountain Turks" and by spreading false information - that being a Kurd is backwards and that only Turks like in urban cities etc...
4) it tries to tell us that Kurdistan is not occupied by Turkey (BIG FAT LIE)


And worst of all - 5) IT TRIES TO TELL US EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT! That Kurds are happy and content and that there actually IS a "brotherhood" between us...

HOW in God's name can you be brothers with somebody who burns down 6000 + of your villages - forcing 10 + million Kurds to flee from their villages and become beggars in the streets of Istanbul and Ankara - and call them "Mountains Turks" and forbid their language for 80 years - and deny any Kurdish existence...

And how can YOU SchoolMaster LIE to us and tell us that Turkey HELPED Kurds secure autonomy in "Northern Iraq"???

If it were up to TURKEY - it would occupy "Northern Iraq" - which is SOUTHERN KURDISTAN - and make it part of it's Turkish empire... Along with Northern Kurdistan...

And I find it VERY suspicious that Cazyun AGREES with what Schoolmaster says...

[Parsi]

There is no such thing as a "muslim brotherhood" - there never was.

Right after the death of Prophet Muhammed Islam was abused and it still is being abused today. I will always be an Iranian Kurd and Azari, and then a Muslim as do all others: ethnicity and common cultural ground ALWAYS comes first - history has shown us this...

This is the ideology that the Osmons used on the Kurd: Muslim brotherhood : to get the Kurds to help them fight...

Fool me once - shame on you, Fool me twice - shame on ME...

[dyaoko]

if you ask me , no other nation have ever paid as much price as Kurds for Islam and Muslem brotherhood ,

for example shekh mahmood of slemani , fighted with Britian , while he could get along with them and have an indendepence kurdistan cooperating with Britain .
so it is not you who should invite us to muslem brotherhood , you should invite yourself , and also I think Muslem brotherhood doesnt work anymore...

all of these brother Seprated their house and are living independence , except kurds which are being treated as Guest in their own house which they owned for thousands of years.

[schoolmaster1954]

"Turkish and Kurdish brotherhood"????

Last time those words were said - were by Atatürk... And he managed to make donkeys out of Kurds - to bring his Turkish empire into safe haven... And when he had with the help of the Kurds defeated the allies - he abondoned Kurds to be slaves and servants of Turks...


There is NO "Turkish and Kurdish brotherhood"... There never was...

That article is bullocks...

Because:

1) it tries to play down the number of Kurds
2) it tries to say that Kurds are actually free to be KURDISH in Turkey
3) it tries to justify the 90 years of deportation, rape and molestation of Kurdish boys and girls, genocide and massacres that have been part of the Turkish state policy to assimilate Kurds - and bring shame upon Kurds by calling them "Mountain Turks" and by spreading false information - that being a Kurd is backwards and that only Turks like in urban cities etc...
4) it tries to tell us that Kurdistan is not occupied by Turkey (BIG FAT LIE)


And worst of all - 5) IT TRIES TO TELL US EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT! That Kurds are happy and content and that there actually IS a "brotherhood" between us...

HOW in God's name can you be brothers with somebody who burns down 6000 + of your villages - forcing 10 + million Kurds to flee from their villages and become beggars in the streets of Istanbul and Ankara - and call them "Mountains Turks" and forbid their language for 80 years - and deny any Kurdish existence...

And how can YOU SchoolMaster LIE to us and tell us that Turkey HELPED Kurds secure autonomy in "Northern Iraq"???

If it were up to TURKEY - it would occupy "Northern Iraq" - which is SOUTHERN KURDISTAN - and make it part of it's Turkish empire... Along with Northern Kurdistan...

And I find it VERY suspicious that Cazyun AGREES with what Schoolmaster says...

The unity of mankind is based on the belief in the Oneness of God, the Creator of the human race. He is the Lord over all human beings regardless of their colour, race, or beliefs. All humanity is entitled to share essential resources, thus everyone is EQUAL:

O' mankind, We have created you from a male and a female, and made

you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.

Indeed the most honourable of you in the sight of Allah is the one with

the most piety"
(Surah Al-Hujjarat 49:13)

[schoolmaster1954]

There is no such thing as a "muslim brotherhood" - there never was.

Right after the death of Prophet Muhammed Islam was abused and it still is being abused today. I will always be an Iranian Kurd and Azari, and then a Muslim as do all others: ethnicity and common cultural ground ALWAYS comes first - history has shown us this...

This is the ideology that the Osmons used on the Kurd: Muslim brotherhood : to get the Kurds to help them fight...

Fool me once - shame on you, Fool me twice - shame on ME...

The unity of mankind is based on the belief in the Oneness of God, the Creator of the human race. He is the Lord over all human beings regardless of their colour, race, or beliefs. All humanity is entitled to share essential resources, thus everyone is EQUAL:

O' mankind, We have created you from a male and a female, and made

you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.

Indeed the most honourable of you in the sight of Allah is the one with

the most piety"
(Surah Al-Hujjarat 49:13)

[cazyun]

i agree with our muzlim brotherschoolmaster.... we are all one

[schoolmaster1954]

i agree with our muzlim brotherschoolmaster.... we are all one

Thank you, brother.
All European countries try to unite as one state. They are Christians and want to get stronger in unity. But they want to divide us. They want us to be smaller and to be swallowed easily. Why don't we try to unite in economic and political unity. Arabs, Kurds, Turks and Iranians can establish an economic and political unity. Then we can invite other brothers to the unity. At least, we (Turks and Kurds: Turks in Turkey and Azerbaijan, Iran and Turkey, Kurds in Turkey and North Iraq, Syria, Iran) can unite in federation. Our state can be bilingual (Turkish and Kurdish) and bi-ethnicity (Turks and Kurds). This is a kind of loudly thinking and mind gymnastics. I may be wrong but this is my wish.!!!!

[cazyun]

very perfect idea...more states in east like azerbaycan,uzbekistan,kazakstan.. a big federation since eu only think on the christian population in the union...

[cazyun]

a perfect idea with more states to join the union in east like including azerbaycan,,uzbekistan...more would make a growing economic stability in the are since eu only think on its christian population

[Vladimir]

Lot of EU countries cannot be called christian.